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[dew1679666265]

no, that's pretty damn high for a middle reliever. he's a pretty good middle reliever but not an elite one. he's averaged barely more than 50 innings the last 3 years and his whip during that time is 1.355. he should probably be making like $2-2.5m.

 

With Marshall gone, Wood probably is the set-up man. I think $2.5-3 with incentives is probably market value for a decent set-up man.

[Little Slide Rooter]

no, that's pretty damn high for a middle reliever. he's a pretty good middle reliever but not an elite one. he's averaged barely more than 50 innings the last 3 years and his whip during that time is 1.355. he should probably be making like $2-2.5m.

 

With Marshall gone, Wood probably is the set-up man. I think $2.5-3 with incentives is probably market value for a decent set-up man.

 

If there's one place that this team isn't full of holes, it's the bullpen. Sure, if we were a contender id be interested in a closer like Madson or Cordero at the right price, but as is, we don't even need Wood. If he wants to come back on another home town discount to the tune of 1.5 mil I see no harm in it but there's no reason to pay him more. Now this much is for certain, if we do sign him at "market value", I hope it's understood that there's no unwritten NTC and assuming we're out of contention by July, which is a safe assumption he's on the block because really the best value we could get for him is getting some desperate fringe contender to overpay for him at the deadline.

[Conky]

This might be where Ricketts Cubs fandom comes into play and he steps in a forces a Wood signing, instead of letting Theo/Hoyer make it simply a baseball decision. Also there is the omnipresent Krane Kenney in play here with his marketing wizardry that could get this done. What is "Fair Market Value" for Wood even? $3.5-5 million as a base and $2-3 million more in incentives and what not?

 

no, that's pretty damn high for a middle reliever. he's a pretty good middle reliever but not an elite one. he's averaged barely more than 50 innings the last 3 years and his whip during that time is 1.355. he should probably be making like $2-2.5m.

 

If we can get him for 2.5 it would be great or even three with incentives, When we aren't in it in July we trade him and Bird as a package to a contender. That's if he is not on the DL with a blister.

 

If you sign him at all, do it because he's Kerry Wood. Don't then suggest trading him for whatever you can get at the deadline.

 

Just. No.

[Little Slide Rooter]

This might be where Ricketts Cubs fandom comes into play and he steps in a forces a Wood signing, instead of letting Theo/Hoyer make it simply a baseball decision. Also there is the omnipresent Krane Kenney in play here with his marketing wizardry that could get this done. What is "Fair Market Value" for Wood even? $3.5-5 million as a base and $2-3 million more in incentives and what not?

 

no, that's pretty damn high for a middle reliever. he's a pretty good middle reliever but not an elite one. he's averaged barely more than 50 innings the last 3 years and his whip during that time is 1.355. he should probably be making like $2-2.5m.

 

If we can get him for 2.5 it would be great or even three with incentives, When we aren't in it in July we trade him and Bird as a package to a contender. That's if he is not on the DL with a blister.

 

If you sign him at all, do it because he's Kerry Wood. Don't then suggest trading him for whatever you can get at the deadline.

 

Just. No.

 

Being Kerry Wood adds little value to the team, in it's current state anyway. Trading him at the deadline could be of far greater value.

[TruffleShuffle]

yeah might not want to bank on that considering that he turned down a deal to the phillies last season.

[Little Slide Rooter]

yeah might not want to bank on that considering that he turned down a deal to the phillies last season.

 

Which is why you don't give him an NTC this time around.

[TruffleShuffle]

meh, what's the point? it's clear he loves chicago and playing for the cubs. if he is willing to sign a team-friendly deal, then just give him a no trade clause. i don't see the point of pissing off one of the most loyal players to the franchise so that you can grab a couple of prospects that probably won't amount to much.

[jersey cubs fan]

no, that's pretty damn high for a middle reliever. he's a pretty good middle reliever but not an elite one. he's averaged barely more than 50 innings the last 3 years and his whip during that time is 1.355. he should probably be making like $2-2.5m.

 

With Marshall gone, Wood probably is the set-up man. I think $2.5-3 with incentives is probably market value for a decent set-up man.

 

You don't pay the man based on a job role he's "earned" by default because the team is being torn apart.

[Guest]

no, that's pretty damn high for a middle reliever. he's a pretty good middle reliever but not an elite one. he's averaged barely more than 50 innings the last 3 years and his whip during that time is 1.355. he should probably be making like $2-2.5m.

 

With Marshall gone, Wood probably is the set-up man. I think $2.5-3 with incentives is probably market value for a decent set-up man.

 

You don't pay the man based on a job role he's "earned" by default because the team is being torn apart.

 

Yea. That was a head scratcher. Especially considering the source.

[Little Slide Rooter]

no, that's pretty damn high for a middle reliever. he's a pretty good middle reliever but not an elite one. he's averaged barely more than 50 innings the last 3 years and his whip during that time is 1.355. he should probably be making like $2-2.5m.

 

With Marshall gone, Wood probably is the set-up man. I think $2.5-3 with incentives is probably market value for a decent set-up man.

 

You don't pay the man based on a job role he's "earned" by default because the team is being torn apart.

 

The entire point of bringing back Wood when we have a plethora of middle relievers is that he's willing to come back below market value because his is where he wants to pitch. Otherwise, I'd just as soon take our chances with Dolis, Carpenter, Beliveau, Weathers, Mateo, Samardzjia, Cashner or even Corpas or Sonnenstine now that they're there anyway. Throw in 1 or 2 of Russell, Maine, and Gaub and it equals a pretty crowded bullpen. Maybe we can kick Kerry a few 100K to teach the younger guys how to make good use out of a towel.

[ctcf]

Random Observation: I feel like at least half of Jon Heyman's tweets are him complaining about travelling.

[Guest]

No way.

 

Unless Olney just happened to be bitching about traveling about 20 minutes before you were looking.

[dew1679666265]

You don't pay the man based on a job role he's "earned" by default because the team is being torn apart.

 

I wasn't advocating anything in that post - I was simply pointing out that if Wood is demanding market value for the role we'd likely have him in, he's probably demanding market value for a set-up man rather than a generic middle reliever as Truffle originally said. And that may well be the holdup - Theo/Hoyer want to pay him like a middle reliever, but he wants set-up money.

[jumbo]

I think they could be just waiting to clear space on the 40 man for Wood. Helps them make a trade if they have more than one player coming back to the 40. I think we're at 39 or maybe even 40 already. Too lazy to look it up right now

[Have a seat, Neifi]

Edwin Jackson is apparently seeking a 5 year / $60 million deal. His agent is none other than Boras, Scott.

[bukie]

Edwin Jackson is apparently seeking a 5 year / $60 million deal. His agent is none other than Boras, Scott.

The good news for everyone is that he's about as likely to get that as Fielder is to get a 10 year $250 million deal.

[davell]

Edwin Jackson is apparently seeking a 5 year / $60 million deal. His agent is none other than Boras, Scott.

Good God. No wonder he hasn't been talked about much. Teams are still laughing at him from when Boras told them that. 3/33 seems like solid value for him, from us or anyone else.

[El Duderino]

according to fangraphs, Jackson has been worth 16, 15, and 17 million the past three years. Wow.

[Guest]

Cubs signed OF Joe Mather to a minor league contract.

Mather batted .213 with one home run and nine RBI over 75 at-bats with the Braves last season before being designated for assignment in mid-June. The 29-year-old opted for free agency and finished the season at the Triple-A level in the Rockies' organization. He will likely serve as organizational depth in the minors for the Cubbies.

 

Did not feel this deserve it's own thread.

[NonProfitCow]

Cubs signed OF Joe Mather to a minor league contract.

Mather batted .213 with one home run and nine RBI over 75 at-bats with the Braves last season before being designated for assignment in mid-June. The 29-year-old opted for free agency and finished the season at the Triple-A level in the Rockies' organization. He will likely serve as organizational depth in the minors for the Cubbies.

 

Did not feel this deserve it's own thread.

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[SouthSideRyan]

No.

[NonProfitCow]

No.

He hit .303 .411 .630 1.041 in 250 PA as a 25 year old in AAA one time 4 years ago, and he can play EVERY position! He's legit.

 

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[Little Slide Rooter]

Brad Hawpe Could Be Close To Minor League Deal

By Mark Polishuk [January 6 at 7:35pm CST]

Brad Hawpe could be close to signing a minor league contract with one of three clubs that have shown interest in the 32-year-old, reports MLB.com's Jesse Sanchez.  Hawpe underwent Tommy John surgery last summer and says he is healthy and ready to return to the field.

 

Hawpe signed a one-year, $2MM deal with the Padres just over a year ago but struggled badly in 2011, hitting just .231/.301/.344 in 216 plate appearances for the Friars.  San Diego unsurprisingly declined its $6MM club option on Hawpe for 2012, instead buying out the contract for $1MM.

 

Hawpe hit .288/.384/.518 with 99 home runs between 2006-2009 as member of the Rockies.  He has rather severe splits (a career .873 OPS against right-handers versus a .752 OPS against southpaws) and will probably be limited to a DH or first base role given both his recent surgery and his lifetime -18.9 UZR/150 as an outfielder.  Still, it wasn't long ago that Hawpe was one of the more underrated sluggers in the game, and he could be a very solid platoon or bench option for teams in need of a left-handed bat.

 

I wouldn't put it past Theo despite the fact that it's not something we need, but that doesn't seem to necessarily stop Theo. I certainly wouldn't hate it as a minor league deal.

[El Duderino]

hawpe/soriano would probably be a really good platoon. legendary defense.

[ctcf]

No on Hawpe plz