Re: New GM/Cubs Future News Articles

[UMFan83]

According to the Moneyball article in SI, we had made preliminary calls on AGON, but when Theo got involved, he pushed and pushed until Hoyer conceded and got it finalized before the winter meetings began. First time I had actually thought of Hendry as lazy, to be honest. Looks like he misread the situation, at the very least.

 

I seem to remember there were initial rumors of the Cubs interest in AGonz along with Boston and another team or two. They kind of quieted down when Boston stepped up their offer. Then when Boston was rumored to have the deal done, the Cubs supposedly stepped up and there were reports that the Cubs had a very good offer out there but Hoyer liked the Red Sox prospects a little bit more and was more familiar with them. I think the Cubs were closer to getting AGonz than people think. Either that or one of the sides floated that rumor out there so that people wouldn't think it was a buddy buddy deal.

 

Rosenthal explained both the Cubs and Red Sox have "coveted Gonzalez" and while Jed Hoyer is familiar with the Red Sox system, it is "thinner than it's been in recent years and other teams might be in position to offer better talent."

Edited October 26, 2011 by UMFan83

[Sammy Sofa]

I think we need to be very careful with Pujols, the more I read. He's going to most likely give the Cards last shot and I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere yesterday that it'll take a sizable difference for him to leave the Cards to begin with. Think the analogy was 20 mill more overall wouldn't get him out of St. Louis.

 

The Cards reported max so far was 9 years/$195 million right?

 

No problem.

[ArizonaGM]

I think we need to be very careful with Pujols, the more I read. He's going to most likely give the Cards last shot and I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere yesterday that it'll take a sizable difference for him to leave the Cards to begin with. Think the analogy was 20 mill more overall wouldn't get him out of St. Louis.

 

If nothing else it wouldn't hurt to match the high offer, if only to artificially drive the price up for him and to make the Cardinals have to pay more.

 

I think we will do this for sure. The Red Sox were always really good at doing that to the Yankees and vice versa. I think Pujos is a freak of nature and the best hitter in the game right now. His subtle decline in value stats have me a little concerned but he still may be worth what it would take to get him. On the other hand, Prince is entering his prime. His weight is a concern for me. It's hard to play that heavy and never develop knee issues. Off the top of my head he hasn't had any issues in that respect but I think he's a bigger risk overall.

[SouthSideRyan]

I think we need to be very careful with Pujols, the more I read. He's going to most likely give the Cards last shot and I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere yesterday that it'll take a sizable difference for him to leave the Cards to begin with. Think the analogy was 20 mill more overall wouldn't get him out of St. Louis.

 

The Cards reported max so far was 9 years/$195 million right?

 

No problem.

 

I'd run naked through Grant Park to get Pujols for 9/220

[Ballgame64]

It was great to hear Theo talk more in-depth on CTL after the press conference. It is hard to temper the excitement his hiring has created. I also liked the fact he was joking about Starbucks and the movie Office Space. I think that just makes him come across as a confident guy who isn't afraid to have a good time.

 

A big thank you again to Tom Ricketts for making this happen.

[Laura]

Theo is supposed to be on Waddle & Silvy on ESPN 1000 tomorrow at 9 am CT.

 

& purple shirt guy vindicated -

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-talk-theo-epstein-starbucks-1022-20111026,0,2521154.story

[Omar]

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/6d/6d4236643463f9468f6a4518bf7b6446/ricketts_gets_his_man_cubs_introduce_theo_epstein_as_president.jpg

[BCVM22]

"I've heard a lot about you," said Theo.

 

Briefed on Ronnie Woo-Woo, apparently.

[seanimal]

what's with the purse woo?

[Guest]

what's with the purse woo?

 

It's not a purse. It's European.

[Prizefight]

He's on Mully and Hanley at 830.

 

Unfortunate that the two worst interviewers on the Score get to interview him. Get ready for questions that aren't really questions at all that are not cleverly wrapped between uncomfortable jokes and fake uproarious laughter.

[Guest]

hahahaha Sullivan just told everyone who emailed him about the purple shirt guy article to suck it.

[davell]

I think we need to be very careful with Pujols, the more I read. He's going to most likely give the Cards last shot and I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere yesterday that it'll take a sizable difference for him to leave the Cards to begin with. Think the analogy was 20 mill more overall wouldn't get him out of St. Louis.

 

The Cards reported max so far was 9 years/$195 million right?

 

No problem.

While I definitely agree with that, what if he mulls it over, and the Cards up their offer some? If we target Pujols, I really want to see a big money, shorter term deal. I don't see the Cards competing with something like 6 for 180. I think the AAV of that gives Pujols the highest per year salary in history and it would take us off the hook for a couple of seasons where we'd probably be getting totally broken down Albert at that point. I've gone back and forth on which of those two to go after, but I think I've decided I'd prefer short term huge money thrown at Pujols, over an 8 for 200ish type deal thrown at Prince.

[UK1679666180]

One thing I think that has been overlooked is now the Cubs have double the sets of books at their disposal.

 

Double the reports on amateur scouting reports, double the coverage for the Cape Cod League, double the coverage on every minor league player, double the advance scouting reports, each of the 1200 players on the 40 man rosters. While everything is being implemented, even if they replace the Cubs method of TI 81 calculators, they have the Cubs data at their disposal as well as the vast amount of data within the Sox system.

 

Basically in regards to the June draft and international FAs, they have double the data.

[UMFan83]

hahahaha Sullivan just told everyone who emailed him about the purple shirt guy article to suck it.

 

It was still an extremely stupid article to publish.

[Guest]

One thing I think that has been overlooked is now the Cubs have double the sets of books at their disposal.

 

Double the reports on amateur scouting reports, double the coverage for the Cape Cod League, double the coverage on every minor league player, double the advance scouting reports, each of the 1200 players on the 40 man rosters. While everything is being implemented, even if they replace the Cubs method of TI 81 calculators, they have the Cubs data at their disposal as well as the vast amount of data within the Sox system.

 

Basically in regards to the June draft and international FAs, they have double the data.

 

Can they take that data with them? How does that differ in terms of being Red Sox/Padres intellectual property from something like Carmine (which stores/organizes/processes all that data for the Sox), which they can't take with them?

[erik316wttn]

http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/6d/6d4236643463f9468f6a4518bf7b6446/ricketts_gets_his_man_cubs_introduce_theo_epstein_as_president.jpg

 

I lol'ed at how uncomfortable Theo looks in this pic.

[C.C.]

He's on WGN now. The worst questions I've ever heard.

[UK1679666180]

One thing I think that has been overlooked is now the Cubs have double the sets of books at their disposal.

 

Double the reports on amateur scouting reports, double the coverage for the Cape Cod League, double the coverage on every minor league player, double the advance scouting reports, each of the 1200 players on the 40 man rosters. While everything is being implemented, even if they replace the Cubs method of TI 81 calculators, they have the Cubs data at their disposal as well as the vast amount of data within the Sox system.

 

Basically in regards to the June draft and international FAs, they have double the data.

 

Can they take that data with them? How does that differ in terms of being Red Sox/Padres intellectual property from something like Carmine (which stores/organizes/processes all that data for the Sox), which they can't take with them?

 

The data still has to be entered into Carmine in its rawest form, they have to have a traditional scouting database, where they have a simple search engine to look up any player they have reports on. Also, they still have the contacts within the Sox organization and while they might not full OFP report, they'll get some info to get a secondary opinion about whichever player their questioning.

 

I imagine it would be impossible to gather and use data obtained from the Sox regarding pro and amateur players.

[UMFan83]

Ugh, look what you've done Sullivan:

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-1026-sandberg-cubs-chicago--20111026,0,5554219.story

[Prizefight]

He's on WGN now. The worst questions I've ever heard.

Put on Mully and Hanley in 10 minutes for that shall be a short lived title

[Guest]

Theo just said he was walking out to the marquee for a photo and kept hearing the woo-woo and his first instinct was to walk the other direction but he couldn't get away from him.

[dfnowak]

Theo is on the Score right now.

[Banedon]

Please post summaries of the Mully and Hanley and ESPN 1000 interviews if anyone is able.

[Prizefight]

Talking about the importance of small decisions. Right scouts being at the right games, some scouts better with pitchers others with hitters etc... Important to have the right staff and right processes in place to be right more than being wrong.