College Football - Week 7 (Oct. 15th)

[Andy]

Top 25 games

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(1) LSU at Tennessee (3:30 pm, CBS)

(2) Alabama at Ole Miss (6 pm, ESPN2)

(3) Oklahoma at Kansas (9:15 pm, ESPN2)

Indiana at (4) Wisconsin (12 pm, ESPN2)

(5) Boise State at Colorado State (6 pm, The Mountain)

(6) Oklahoma State at (22) Texas (3:30 pm, ABC/ESPN)

(7) Stanford at Washington State (7:30 pm, Versus)

(8) Clemson at Maryland (7 pm, ESPNU)

(18) Arizona State at (9) Oregon (10:15 pm, ESPN)

(11) Michigan at (23) Michigan State (12 pm, ESPN)

(12) Georgia Tech at Virginia (3:30 pm, ESPNU)

(15) South Carolina at Mississippi State (12 pm, SEC Network)

Ohio State at (16) Illinois (3:30 pm, ABC/ESPN)

(17) Kansas State at Texas Tech (7 pm, FSN/CSN)

(19) Virginia Tech at Wake Forest (6:30 pm, ESPN3)

(20) Baylor at (21) Texas A&M (12 pm, FX)

Florida at (24) Auburn (7 pm, ESPN)

 

Games of interest

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USC at California (9 pm Thursday, ESPN)

 

Louisville at Cincinnati (12 pm, ESPN3)

Purdue at Penn State (12 pm, BTN)

Iowa State at Missouri (2 pm)

Florida State at Duke (3 pm, ESPN3)

Ball State at Ohio (3:30 pm, ESPN3)

Western Michigan at Northern Illinois (3:30 pm, CSN Chicago)

Northwestern at Iowa (7 pm, BTN)

UL Monroe at Troy (7 pm, ESPN3)

 

Other nationally available games

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San Diego State at Air Force (8 pm Thursday, CBS College)

 

Hawaii at San Jose State (9 pm Friday, ESPN)

 

Toledo at Bowling Green (12 pm, ESPN3)

Utah at Pittsburgh (12 pm, ESPNU)

Miami at North Carolina (12 pm, ESPN3)

Navy at Rutgers (2 pm, ESPN3)

South Florida at Connecticut (3:30 pm, ESPN3)

Central Florida at SMU (3:30 pm, FSN/CSN)

Georgia at Vanderbilt (7 pm, ESPN3)

UAB at Tulsa (8 pm, CBS College)

Idaho at New Mexico State (8 pm, ESPN3)

[Derwood]

Penn State should become bowl eligible with a home game against Purdue.

[Butterscup1679666578]

LOL GONNA LOSE TO IOWA STATE ON HOMECOMING

[SouthSideRyan]

LOL GONNA LOSE TO IOWA STATE ON HOMECOMING

 

FX would love to show it, but they already booked 2 and a half men repeats in that timeslot.

[Butterscup1679666578]

fine with me. gets me out of work earlier.

[bcl412]

Iowa lost to Penn State which they don't do often so maybe they can reverse fortunes against Northwestern as they don't often beat the Wildcats.

[dew1679666265]

If Matt Simms can play like Phil Simms Saturday, Tennessee might have a chance to keep it close. Otherwise, the early 13-15 point line seems way too low.

[abuck1220]

LOL GONNA LOSE TO IOWA STATE ON HOMECOMING

 

is this crap really not on tv?

[Butterscup1679666578]

LOL GONNA LOSE TO IOWA STATE ON HOMECOMING

 

is this crap really not on tv?

 

really.

[Castro13]

Man, I really hope the Illini beat the [expletive] out of the Buckeyes.

[bukie]

For those that care, here's a fairly good estimation of what the BCS standings will look like next week, barring weird happenings (it's missing one computer rating and one is a week old):

 

1. LSU, 1.6

2. Alabama, 1.73

3. Oklahoma, 3.33

4. Boise State, 5

5. Oklahoma State, 5.73

6. Wisconsin, 5.93

7. Clemson, 7.4

8. Stanford, 8

9. Michigan, 10.6

10. Arkansas, 12

11. Oregon, 12.27

12. Georgia Tech, 13

13. Illinois, 14.33

14. Nebraska, 14.6

15. Kansas State, 15.67

16. South Carolina, 16.27

17. West Virginia, 17.47

18. Arizona State, 18.87

19. Texas, 19.07

20. Virginia Tech, 19.87

21. Baylor, 22

22. Auburn, 23.13

23. Texas A&M, 23.93

24. Florida, 24.67

25. Michigan State, 25.67

[Old Style]

I hope we can hit RGIII like we did Tyler Wilson & Seth Doege the last two weeks. They were tough enough to keep playing, but I'm not sure Griffin will be.

[bcl412]

Big Ten would have 4 teams in the top 15, not bad for a down year. People get too caught up with Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana, who range from bad to terrible but the rest of the conference is still pretty solid.

[SouthSideRyan]

Big Ten would have 4 teams in the top 15, not bad for a down year. People get too caught up with Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana, who range from bad to terrible but the rest of the conference is still pretty solid.

 

Seems to be the story of the Big Ten for awhile now (in both football and basketball) Better than average mid-tier teams, but few if any elite teams.

[E.J.]

[expletive] you Sparty!

[bukie]

Big Ten would have 4 teams in the top 15, not bad for a down year. People get too caught up with Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana, who range from bad to terrible but the rest of the conference is still pretty solid.

 

Seems to be the story of the Big Ten for awhile now (in both football and basketball) Better than average mid-tier teams, but few if any elite teams.

I think the biggest two things that hurt the Big Ten's national perception this year is 1) Ohio State is not good, and public opinion assumes OSU is always one of the best Big Ten teams; and 2) Indiana and Minnesota are likely the worst two major conference teams.

 

EDIT: And the best Big Ten non-conference win was probably Illinois' win over Arizona State. Either that or Michigan over Notre Dame. Nobody else won anything of import.

[Tracer Bullet]

Big Ten would have 4 teams in the top 15, not bad for a down year. People get too caught up with Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana, who range from bad to terrible but the rest of the conference is still pretty solid.

 

How would you know? They don't play anyone. What's the best OOC win? The squeaked against ASU or UM needing 4 TOs, missed FGs, and about 6 consecutive prayers answered to beat an average ND team? (A top ten team yet to play an away game finally travels 90 miles West this week) The entire conference starts with cupcakes and maybe 1 AQ school. Then 6 weeks in they look back and see which 4 teams are still defeated and say "but the top of the conference is solid."

[Tracer Bullet]

Good time for a bye so Manti and EJ can hopefully be 100% against southern cal.

[bukie]

Big Ten would have 4 teams in the top 15, not bad for a down year. People get too caught up with Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana, who range from bad to terrible but the rest of the conference is still pretty solid.

 

How would you know? They don't play anyone. What's the best OOC win? The squeaked against ASU or UM needing 4 TOs, missed FGs, and about 6 consecutive prayers answered to beat an average ND team? (A top ten team yet to play an away game finally travels 90 miles West this week) The entire conference starts with cupcakes and maybe 1 AQ school. Then 6 weeks in they look back and see which 4 teams are still defeated and say "but the top of the conference is solid."

You also basically described the SEC's OOC schedule and corresponding, which was the weakest in the country overall.

 

Caveat: Yes, there are more impressive victories in it at the top end.

 

The Big Ten is 3rd in every statistical analysis I can find (and I've been doing a lot of looking the past weekend). Well behind the SEC and Big 12, but decently ahead of the ACC, Big East and Pac-12. The Big Ten isn't solid because they have 3 undefeated teams, but because there's a reasonable argument one of them might still just be the 7th best team in the conference (Illinois-Sagarin predictors 33rd team, behind Wisky (6), UM (9), PSU (22), MSU (23), NU (26) and even tOSU (29)). And that team has the best win in the conference.

[Old Style]

Alabama beat Penn State

Arkansas beat A&M

Auburn lost to Clemson

Florida will play Florida State

Georgia lost to Boise State and will play Georgia Tech

LSU beat Oregon

 

There are some quality non-conference games in there.

[Tracer Bullet]

Big Ten would have 4 teams in the top 15, not bad for a down year. People get too caught up with Minnesota, Purdue and Indiana, who range from bad to terrible but the rest of the conference is still pretty solid.

 

How would you know? They don't play anyone. What's the best OOC win? The squeaked against ASU or UM needing 4 TOs, missed FGs, and about 6 consecutive prayers answered to beat an average ND team? (A top ten team yet to play an away game finally travels 90 miles West this week) The entire conference starts with cupcakes and maybe 1 AQ school. Then 6 weeks in they look back and see which 4 teams are still defeated and say "but the top of the conference is solid."

You also basically described the SEC's OOC schedule and corresponding, which was the weakest in the country overall.

 

Caveat: Yes, there are more impressive victories in it at the top end.

 

The Big Ten is 3rd in every statistical analysis I can find (and I've been doing a lot of looking the past weekend). Well behind the SEC and Big 12, but decently ahead of the ACC, Big East and Pac-12. The Big Ten isn't solid because they have 3 undefeated teams, but because there's a reasonable argument one of them might still just be the 7th best team in the conference (Illinois-Sagarin predictors 33rd team, behind Wisky (6), UM (9), PSU (22), MSU (23), NU (26) and even tOSU (29)). And that team has the best win in the conference.

 

Right. The fact that Illinois is undefeated is irrelevant bc they aren't actually any good. Is that what your post is saying?

 

The team that's probably 7th best has the best win. That doesn't scream strong conference. That screams 'we play BS schedules.'

[Tracer Bullet]

Alabama beat Penn State

Arkansas beat A&M

Auburn lost to Clemson

Florida will play Florida State

Georgia lost to Boise State and will play Georgia Tech

LSU beat Oregon

 

There are some quality non-conference games in there.

 

The SEC teams usually play at least 1 game against an AQ school (some bigx teams do to, though the quality of opponent varies). And even when you get into conference play, you play in a deeper conference. In the bigx, you can play 6 games all against crap teams if your first 2 conference games are against Minnesota, PU, Indy or NW (and this year, maybe Iowa, as painful as that is to say).

[SouthSideRyan]

Every single B1G team played an AQ school in their non-con

 

2 SEC schools will not.

[Tracer Bullet]

Every single B1G team played an AQ school in their non-con

 

2 SEC schools will not.

 

And yet, the most impressive wins will be 3-points over ASU or UM watching ND shoot itself in the foot repeatedly with a grenade launcher and winning at the last second. What are the SEC's best OOC wins?

[UMFan83]

Every single B1G team played an AQ school in their non-con

 

2 SEC schools will not.

 

I'm assuming you are considering ND a AQ team because not counting them would eliminate Michigan, Michigan State, and Purdue.