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I haven't seen much discussion about the quote "If another team wants to interview for a position that's not lateral, we will grant those." (paraphrase)

 

Seems it could be a hint that the Cubs are offering more than just the GM role.

 

Yeah. Or if you're a pessimist, it could be a reason why they won't grant it.

 

But I agree. I think Kenney is going to be out/minimized. Which I don't care about either way, except if it increases the chances of Theo coming.

Regardless of what title they give him, I can't imagine Epstein would have any interest in doing Kenney's job.

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I have a feeling that tomorrow the Cubs are going to introduce their new GM and Team President, Theo Epstein. In which case I would proceed to get stinking drunk.
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if theo agreed to terms with the cubs, what would be the first thing we heard? notice of a schedules press conference from the cubs? something from the sox? or would it leak to the media first?
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if theo agreed to terms with the cubs, what would be the first thing we heard? notice of a schedules press conference from the cubs? something from the sox? or would it leak to the media first?

 

My guess is there would be a press conference scheduled by the Cubs for X time later in the day, and between the time of that announcement and the press conference, the news would leak. Pretty much how the Hendry firing conference day went down.

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I have a feeling that tomorrow the Cubs are going to introduce their new GM and Team President, Theo Epstein. In which case I would proceed to get stinking drunk.

 

They are going to announce their new Jewish GM in the middle of the most important Jewish holiday?

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if theo agreed to terms with the cubs, what would be the first thing we heard? notice of a schedules press conference from the cubs? something from the sox? or would it leak to the media first?

 

My guess is there would be a press conference scheduled by the Cubs for X time later in the day, and between the time of that announcement and the press conference, the news would leak. Pretty much how the Hendry firing conference day went down.

 

Yeah...I'd imagine when a press conference gets announced, all of a sudden the reporters probably get pretty annoying to "sources".

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I don't think it will happen tomorrow I think they will hold off because of the holiday and it may also take a few more days to get everything hammered out and in place. If it happens, I'm still trying to prepare myself for the worst. though it does seem like if they were going to pick up the option on his contract or extend it they would have announced that this morning.
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I have a feeling that tomorrow the Cubs are going to introduce their new GM and Team President, Theo Epstein. In which case I would proceed to get stinking drunk.

 

They are going to announce their new Jewish GM in the middle of the most important Jewish holiday?

Signing Theo would be an act of atonement.

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From what I'm reading it seems they didn't seem confident on the radio whatsoever, you would think if they knew he was staying and wanted to remain GM there, they would be all " Theo is our guy", " He's working already on making the team better" etc and talk him up. They stood away from all that and the way they were speaking and things they said show that he's slipping away from them and trying to making it easy on their fan base for his let go.
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My predictions...

 

Theo - President

Josh Byrnes - General Manager

Peter Woodfork - Asst. GM/Director of Baseball Operations

 

I hope not. If we hire Theo, I want him being the GM. Period.

 

He can be "President and GM" if that's what they want to call it.

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My predictions...

 

Theo - President

Josh Byrnes - General Manager

Peter Woodfork - Asst. GM/Director of Baseball Operations

 

I hope not. If we hire Theo, I want him being the GM. Period.

 

He can be "President and GM" if that's what they want to call it.

 

Or call him President and don't have a GM.

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My predictions...

 

Theo - President

Josh Byrnes - General Manager

Peter Woodfork - Asst. GM/Director of Baseball Operations

 

I hope not. If we hire Theo, I want him being the GM. Period.

 

He can be "President and GM" if that's what they want to call it.

 

Or call him President and don't have a GM.

 

Whatever works. Just as long as he's the one assembling the team.

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The collective braintrust is what's important, the individual titles are irrelevant. I want the Cubs to have a collection of smart people and a pool of intellectual resources, not just Theo. Edited by Elrhino
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Gregg Doyel of Cbssports is not that impressed with Epstein. He says he's lucky, not good at what he does:

 

 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/15700522/epstein-isnt-a-genius-gm-just-a-lucky-one

 

The Red Sox have averaged 93 wins and won two World Series in the nine years he has been general manager, but that doesn't make Epstein a smart guy.

 

That makes him a lucky guy.

 

General manager of the Red Sox in this era of Major League Baseball? That's one of the luckiest jobs in sports. Certainly you have to be smart to get that job, and as I've conceded, Theo Epstein -- Yale grad, Juris Doctor -- is a smart guy. But to win as the general manager of the Red Sox? You don't have to be smart to do that.

 

You have to be breathing to do that.

 

And yet Epstein has fan bases in two Major League cities anxiously awaiting his next career move. In Boston they want him to stay and to keep running the Red Sox. In Chicago they want him to run the Cubs. All of this because he's seen as a genius, and look, maybe he is. I'd need to see his transcript and his SAT score, but I'm willing to consider the possibility that Theo Epstein is a genius.

 

But a baseball genius?

 

I'm not willing to consider that. I'm not close. And let me go one step farther and say the following: Even if Epstein goes to the Cubs, and wins a World Series there within five years, I wouldn't concede that he's a baseball genius.

 

What would make me concede Epstein's baseball brilliance? Win a World Series in Minnesota. Win one in Milwaukee. Win one in Oakland. Get to the playoffs at all in Kansas City. Do more with less. That's how you impress me -- more with less.

 

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What would make me concede Epstein's baseball brilliance? Win a World Series in Minnesota. Win one in Milwaukee. Win one in Oakland. Get to the playoffs at all in Kansas City. Do more with less. That's how you impress me -- more with less.

 

 

Three teams that have won a WS more recently than the Cubs. The A's have the 3rd most WS wins of any team ever.

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And he loves Friedman, which I can understand.

 

But I'm fluent in common sense, and common sense screams out that Theo Epstein is overrated as a GM. And look, I like the guy. I even have a tweet to prove it! Last week the Red Sox announced they were parting ways with manager Terry Francona, and the press conference was televised. That was my first in-depth exposure to Epstein, and I was impressed. Smart guy? Obviously. Charismatic, too. As I tweeted, I really like the guy.

 

But he doesn't deserve a cult following. The guy running the Tampa Bay Rays, Andrew Friedman? Never met him, never even heard him run a press conference, but that guy's a baseball genius. He does more with less, and he does it every year. The guy who remade the San Francisco Giants after the Barry Bonds era, GM Brian Sabean? Not a genius, but very impressive. Frank Wren of the Braves? Very impressive. Doug Melvin of the Brewers? Very impressive.

 

Theo Epstein?

 

Very lucky.

 

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After they started taking calls one of the hosts cited one of a his infamous "baseball sources" that said the Cubs would be offering Epstein 5-6 million to come to Chicago and that was well over what the Sox were willing to pay. I can't remember if that was already discussed here but it was mentioned on the show this morning that's the reason I posted it.
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"More with less" isn't a necessary ability when coming to the Cubs since the Cubs have "more" than almost any other team in baseball.

 

Yeah, I think he's saying he'd not be impressed with anyone that led the Cubs to a WS title because they have a high payroll.

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