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I'm one of the people who think Friedman is staying with the Rays. Epstein will remain in Boston. I don't think either is all that realistic, even with Friedman lacking a 2012 contract right now.

Freidman's never had a contract. He and the owner are pretty tight. He's my first choice and by a large margin, but I think he's going to stay put too. I'm putting all my chips on Cherington as the winner.

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I'm one of the people who think Friedman is staying with the Rays. Epstein will remain in Boston. I don't think either is all that realistic, even with Friedman lacking a 2012 contract right now.

Freidman's never had a contract. He and the owner are pretty tight. He's my first choice and by a large margin, but I think he's going to stay put too. I'm putting all my chips on Cherington as the winner.

 

I'm a Beane guy, through and through. Guy deserves a better job more than any GM in the game, and this IMO is exactly that job. Personally Friedman is a kid in the GM game and to me has always been chump change for this Cubs job compared to Beane. To me Ricketts isn't looking for the young hot name, but rather a boss who's been there done that and knows exactly what he would do given the resources new GM will have. Beane could truly become a fckin leeeeeeegend with this job. I mean he's pretty damn close to it with a book people think he wrote and a movie, but this would be his Inglorious Basterds. I think the difference between him and Friedman is that he's swam against the 15 years and EARNED a position that guys will literally fall over (and stab) each other to get.

 

IF Ricketts is on the hunt for the next great and gos with a fresh face then yeah I'm on the

Friedman wagon. Then Cherington and everyone else...I actually really like Cherington.

 

Oh and I lump Cashman with Beane, but I'd pick Beane.

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Wow I really babble when it comes to Beane and this job. That said, I mean it. I think most people underestimate what this job means to baseball and the MLB as a whole. Luckily, I firmly believe our owner does not underestimate what being the next Cubs GM can and will mean.
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Wow I really babble when it comes to Beane and this job. That said, I mean it. I think most people underestimate what this job means to baseball and the MLB as a whole. Luckily, I firmly believe our owner does not underestimate what being the next Cubs GM can and will mean.

 

The past few years have really soured me on Beane. I wouldn't oppose hiring him by any means, but of the big names (Beane, Friedman, Cashman, Epstein) he's probably at the bottom of my list. I realize Beane hasn't had much in the way of resources to work with, but his teams haven't had a winning season since 2006. Never being below 73 wins in that time period is worth noting and is why I'd be fine with hiring him, but there's a really noticeable dropoff that I'd want some reasons for before anointing him as "the" answer for the Cubs going forward.

 

He went 8 years winning between 88 and 103 games a year, and then has been between 73-81 a year for the past five years. Why? I'd rank them Epstein, Friedman, Cashman, Beane with the first two being pretty close and the latter two being pretty close.

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So glad that the BoSox just got eliminated. I'm praying for Theo Epstein! C'mon Ricketts, get it done!

 

Yes, let the fallout over the lost wild card, John Lackey, and Carl Crawford begin. I wish I lived in the Boston area so I could hear the sports radio meatheads wield their verbal torches.

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Wow I really babble when it comes to Beane and this job. That said, I mean it. I think most people underestimate what this job means to baseball and the MLB as a whole. Luckily, I firmly believe our owner does not underestimate what being the next Cubs GM can and will mean.

 

 

i'm with you when it comes to beane being my favorite. for one, it would absolutely kill steve stone to see beane, a guy who beat him out for the a's GM job, get the cubs job, a job stone no doubt covets more than any in the known world.

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I'm one of the people who think Friedman is staying with the Rays. Epstein will remain in Boston. I don't think either is all that realistic, even with Friedman lacking a 2012 contract right now.

Freidman's never had a contract. He and the owner are pretty tight. He's my first choice and by a large margin, but I think he's going to stay put too. I'm putting all my chips on Cherington as the winner.

 

I'm a Beane guy, through and through. Guy deserves a better job more than any GM in the game, and this IMO is exactly that job. Personally Friedman is a kid in the GM game and to me has always been chump change for this Cubs job compared to Beane. To me Ricketts isn't looking for the young hot name, but rather a boss who's been there done that and knows exactly what he would do given the resources new GM will have. Beane could truly become a fckin leeeeeeegend with this job. I mean he's pretty damn close to it with a book people think he wrote and a movie, but this would be his Inglorious Basterds. I think the difference between him and Friedman is that he's swam against the 15 years and EARNED a position that guys will literally fall over (and stab) each other to get.

 

IF Ricketts is on the hunt for the next great and gos with a fresh face then yeah I'm on the

Friedman wagon. Then Cherington and everyone else...I actually really like Cherington.

 

Oh and I lump Cashman with Beane, but I'd pick Beane.

Two things:

 

Beane was offered the Boston job, accepted it, then backed out. Given that, I have a hard time beating the "he deserves a better job" drum on his behalf.

 

Whoever gets hired "could truly become a fckin leeeeeeegend". It will go along with the job until someone wins a WS.

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Two things:

 

Beane was offered the Boston job, accepted it, then backed out. Given that, I have a hard time beating the "he deserves a better job" drum on his behalf.

 

Whoever gets hired "could truly become a fckin leeeeeeegend". It will go along with the job until someone wins a WS.

 

That was a good what...6...8 years ago? It's about time you let that go. I forgot that even happened, and it literally has nothing to do with anything anymore, except as a piece of trivia, I guess (who did Billy Beane turn down half a decade before taking the Cubs job?).

 

Your second point is true, I thought I threw it in, but then I would think that would make the pool of people who should get the job much, much smaller. I especially believe this given new ownership. Beane is more of completing a legacy in a place where he can compete year in and year out while rebuilding the infrastructure of baseball's old joke franchise like he did his first franchise. Yes, again this can be anyone. To me, there's a difference between giving it to the guy who revamped the MLB front office personnel, the way they operate, got beat by those ideas once richer teams started adapting, opened the door for GMs like Andrew Friedman and other Wall Street employees and/or MBAs to seriously work in baseball, got publicized in a book that shook the baseball world, and then saw that book made into a move starring one of Hollywood's biggest stahs and giving it to someone who's done basically what the former did after Beane opened the door for guys like him. To me it's hiring a kid to do a man's job, and I'm not sure my opinion will change too much until Beane is officially not a candidate. That will only be because it has to change. Plus, what's the one thing Beane's resume is missing? Hint: It's the same thing the Cubs haven't claimed in over 100 years.

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Two things:

 

Beane was offered the Boston job, accepted it, then backed out. Given that, I have a hard time beating the "he deserves a better job" drum on his behalf.

 

Whoever gets hired "could truly become a fckin leeeeeeegend". It will go along with the job until someone wins a WS.

 

That was a good what...6...8 years ago? It's about time you let that go. I forgot that even happened, and it literally has nothing to do with anything anymore, except as a piece of trivia, I guess (who did Billy Beane turn down half a decade before taking the Cubs job?).

 

Your second point is true, I thought I threw it in, but then I would think that would make the pool of people who should get the job much, much smaller. I especially believe this given new ownership. Beane is more of completing a legacy in a place where he can compete year in and year out while rebuilding the infrastructure of baseball's old joke franchise like he did his first franchise. Yes, again this can be anyone. To me, there's a difference between giving it to the guy who revamped the MLB front office personnel, the way they operate, got beat by those ideas once richer teams started adapting, opened the door for GMs like Andrew Friedman and other Wall Street employees and/or MBAs to seriously work in baseball, got publicized in a book that shook the baseball world, and then saw that book made into a move starring one of Hollywood's biggest stahs and giving it to someone who's done basically what the former did after Beane opened the door for guys like him. To me it's hiring a kid to do a man's job, and I'm not sure my opinion will change too much until Beane is officially not a candidate. That will only be because it has to change. Plus, what's the one thing Beane's resume is missing? Hint: It's the same thing the Cubs haven't claimed in over 100 years.

Let what go? I'm just setting the record straight.

 

You're playing this misguided "woe is Billy, stuck with the A's" tune, and it just doesn't work. He *chose* to stay where he is, after being handed the keys to the Red Sox.

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So do the Cubs introduce Epstein and Francona at the same press conference, or do they hold separate ones?

 

I love that the Cubs are the proverbial prettiest girl at the ball, but don't tease me like this.

 

They are more like the sluttiest girl at prom. The new guy is guaranteed to get laid that night, but if things aren't handled the right way, things can get crazy in a hurry, and he may wind up regretting that prom night the rest of his life.

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So do the Cubs introduce Epstein and Francona at the same press conference, or do they hold separate ones?

 

I love that the Cubs are the proverbial prettiest girl at the ball, but don't tease me like this.

 

They are more like the sluttiest girl at prom. The new guy is guaranteed to get laid that night, but if things aren't handled the right way, things can get crazy in a hurry, and he may wind up regretting that prom night the rest of his life.

 

So you're saying the Cubs have herpes?

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So do the Cubs introduce Epstein and Francona at the same press conference, or do they hold separate ones?

 

I love that the Cubs are the proverbial prettiest girl at the ball, but don't tease me like this.

 

They are more like the sluttiest girl at prom. The new guy is guaranteed to get laid that night, but if things aren't handled the right way, things can get crazy in a hurry, and he may wind up regretting that prom night the rest of his life.

 

So you're saying the Cubs have herpes?

 

Next thing you know you get her knocked up, and out comes a baby Alfonso Soriano and all of the sudden, your once promising life is derailed.

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Let what go? I'm just setting the record straight.

 

You're playing this misguided "woe is Billy, stuck with the A's" tune, and it just doesn't work. He *chose* to stay where he is, after being handed the keys to the Red Sox.

 

Him turning a job down over half a decade ago when the A's were still a perennial contender really has nothing to do with anything anymore.

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Let what go? I'm just setting the record straight.

 

You're playing this misguided "woe is Billy, stuck with the A's" tune, and it just doesn't work. He *chose* to stay where he is, after being handed the keys to the Red Sox.

 

Him turning a job down over half a decade ago when the A's were still a perennial contender really has nothing to do with anything anymore.

It has everything to do with why you're misguided in saying Beane "deserves a better job". He has been offered exactly that, and turned it down.

 

Personally, I am all-in on Theo, but Beane wouldn't be a disappointment. The notion that he's owed the opportunity to be a big-market GM just rings totally hollow though, given the above circumstances.

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Let what go? I'm just setting the record straight.

 

You're playing this misguided "woe is Billy, stuck with the A's" tune, and it just doesn't work. He *chose* to stay where he is, after being handed the keys to the Red Sox.

 

Him turning a job down over half a decade ago when the A's were still a perennial contender really has nothing to do with anything anymore.

 

Plus, at the time, the Red Sox looked good but not great and The A's farm system seemed to be the equivalent of what The Rays is now, constantly pumping out stars. Every time the lost a guy, it seemed someone took their place. They also had a rotation looked like it could have been as good as the Braves of the 90's.

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