Aramis Snubbed?

[J.R.]

Gonna have to side with the meatheads here - Aramis should show up. This is a chance to represent the team, his home country, and if nothing else remedy the abomination that is All-Star Scott Rolen.

[BCVM22]

if nothing else remedy the abomination that is All-Star Scott Rolen.

 

Amazingly, Rolen would be an All-Star with or without Aramis, which speaks to the flaws of the system.

[davearm2]

They should've made Pujols the replacement.

[dew1679666265]

Gonna have to side with the meatheads here - Aramis should show up. This is a chance to represent the team, his home country, and if nothing else remedy the abomination that is All-Star Scott Rolen.

 

I don't think he's wrong either way. It's admirable to want to represent team and country, but it's also more admirable to want to spend time with your family - especially when you had already previously committed to it.

 

In all honesty, I wouldn't blame him in the least if he felt disrespected enough not to go. Three to four clearly inferior players are put in the all star game (including the horrendous choice of Scott Rolen) before they finally get around to one of the best third basemen in the game? Declining out of the principle of the ASG selection process being a sham wouldn't be a bad thing, I don't think.

[UMFan83]

Man that sucks. I understand he'd probably been planning on going home to see his family for awhile, but cmon man you won't get many more chances to be an all star in your career. He should have gone.

[Tryptamine]

I'm not sure if this is how Aramis feels, but to me this invitation was meaningless. Being picked as the 5th different 3B in the NL is absolutely insulting. I wouldn't have wasted a second on it either.

[Pushfrog98]

I'm not sure if this is how Aramis feels, but to me this invitation was meaningless. Being picked as the 5th different 3B in the NL is absolutely insulting. I wouldn't have wasted a second on it either.

This.

[UMFan83]

I'm not sure if this is how Aramis feels, but to me this invitation was meaningless. Being picked as the 5th different 3B in the NL is absolutely insulting. I wouldn't have wasted a second on it either.

This.

 

Meh, being labeled an all star in 2011 might have gotten him a few extra $'s on his next contract.

[Pushfrog98]

I'm not sure if this is how Aramis feels, but to me this invitation was meaningless. Being picked as the 5th different 3B in the NL is absolutely insulting. I wouldn't have wasted a second on it either.

This.

 

Meh, being labeled an all star in 2011 might have gotten him a few extra $'s on his next contract.

But he's already shown that money isn't a HUGE priority for him. Not saying it isn't one, but he did take less money to play in Chicago.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm not sure if this is how Aramis feels, but to me this invitation was meaningless. Being picked as the 5th different 3B in the NL is absolutely insulting. I wouldn't have wasted a second on it either.

This.

 

Meh, being labeled an all star in 2011 might have gotten him a few extra $'s on his next contract.

 

Getting labelled as an all star for the first time in your career is probably worth some money. But Ramirez is an established player and his market value is pretty well established as well. I don't think this would or would not make him any money.

[Brett]

Gonna have to side with the meatheads here - Aramis should show up. This is a chance to represent the team, his home country, and if nothing else remedy the abomination that is All-Star Scott Rolen.

 

I don't think he's wrong either way. It's admirable to want to represent team and country, but it's also more admirable to want to spend time with your family - especially when you had already previously committed to it.

 

In all honesty, I wouldn't blame him in the least if he felt disrespected enough not to go. Three to four clearly inferior players are put in the all star game (including the horrendous choice of Scott Rolen) before they finally get around to one of the best third basemen in the game? Declining out of the principle of the ASG selection process being a sham wouldn't be a bad thing, I don't think.

 

I would have liked to have seen another Cub in the game, but, because of how it played out - and the timing - I can't blame Ramirez for his decision.

 

That said, I have my doubts that, if he'd been asked last week, he would have said yes.

[CubmanPi]

I'm not sure if this is how Aramis feels, but to me this invitation was meaningless. Being picked as the 5th different 3B in the NL is absolutely insulting. I wouldn't have wasted a second on it either.

This.

 

Meh, being labeled an all star in 2011 might have gotten him a few extra $'s on his next contract.

 

Getting labelled as an all star for the first time in your career is probably worth some money. But Ramirez is an established player and his market value is pretty well established as well. I don't think this would or would not make him any money.

Agreed that this almost certainly has about zero bearing on future contracts, but does his current contract not have any incentives on it tied to ASG selection/appearance?

[jersey cubs fan]

award bonuses: $75,000 each for Gold Glove or All Star selection, $0.25M for LCS MVP, $0.3M for MVP,$0.35M for WS MVP

 

Ramirez may void 2012 option, but doing so forfeits $2M buyout

 

2012 option becomes guaranteed if Ramirez:

wins one MVP in 2007-11, or

 

places 2nd or 3rd in MVP vote twice in 2007-11, or

 

wins LCS MVP once in 2007-11, or

is an All Star 3 times in 2007-11, or

is traded & Ramirez exercises 2011 option

 

Some, but not particularly meaningful. He was an all star in 2005 and 2008, so only once in the timeframe of this contract. And $75,000 isn't going to change his feelings much on a contract. Maybe he gets it anyway.

[BCVM22]

http://www.csnchicago.com/07/11/11/Ramirez-All-Star-invite-turndown-is-disr/kapman_article.html?blockID=540591&feedID=661&awid=7201541826454644836

 

Who had "David Kaplan" and "by 6 PM Monday" in the pool?

[TruffleShuffle]

kaplan just doesn't understand why he'd go on vacation to a place with lots of brown people

[Tryptamine]

Chicago sports journalism, where spending time with your family makes you an [expletive].

[Sammy Sofa]

Chicago sports journalism, where spending time with your family makes you an [expletive].

 

Unless you're tiny/fat and white, then you're a good character guy who knows what's really important. Really can't see Kaplan having the same issues if Konerko did the same. Or someone like Thome.

[TruffleShuffle]

Chicago sports journalism, where spending time with your family makes you an [expletive].

 

Unless you're tiny/fat and white, then you're a good character guy who knows what's really important. Really can't see Kaplan having the same issues if Konerko did the same. Or someone like Thome.

 

what if they went to the dominican republican over the ASB? then they're hanging out with lazy brown people and giving them their hard-earned american dollars.

[Illini Iceman]

I think Len and Campbell mentioned on the Sunday broadcast that Kirk Gibson never went to the All-Star game as a player, presumably because he had no interest in giving up his free time to attend. But he was super gritty so I am sure that is much more acceptable than what Ramirez did.

 

And of course we dare not question the great Derek Jeter and his need for an emotional rest from ESPN kissing his ass 24/7 for the last 2 months.