Rosenthal: Zambrano Willing to Waive No-Trade Clause

[Mark Priors Calves]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/chicago-cubs-volatile-pitcher-carlos-zambrano-willing-to-waive-no-trade-clause-061711

 

“If they come to me and want to trade me, obviously it’s because they don’t want me here anymore,” Zambrano told FOXSports.com. “I always say that. I’ll be here until the Cubs decide to trade me.”

 

“I don’t want to leave,” Zambrano said. “I’ve been here 10 years. The town has been special to me, the fans, too.”

[Magnetic Curses]

if they trade him, they better get something good.

[Sammy Sofa]

if they trade him, they better get something good.

 

Yup.

Edited June 18, 2011 by Sammy Sofa

[davell]

I'd love to get one of the Yanks good catching prospects or one of their elite young arms. I hope the Cubs are ready to eat a ton of his contract in order to do this, because dealing him strictly for salary relief isn't what I have in mind. Just don't see how it's going to wind up worth it.

[Little Slide Rooter]

if they trade him, they better get something good.

 

And have a damn good plan to replace him next year.

[Guest]

If they can unload enough of his salary to throw a Ted Lilly deal(or a bit more) at CJ Wilson and get a decent player in return(a 2B or 3B would be ideal), then let's explore it. Otherwise you're just making the team worse because of reasons that have little to nothing to do with baseball.

[davell]

If you trade him for prospects, you're probably looking at signing Chris Carpenter on a short term deal and then going all out for one of Liriano/Marcum/Greinke/Weaver in 2013. Question becomes this: How much better are we with this, than what we are now.......

 

C Soto

1B Fielder

2B Barney or LeMahieu

SS Castro

3B Vitters or stopgap guy

LF Soriano

CF B Jackson

RF Colvin or FA signee that's probably not a ton of money

 

SP

Greinke or Liriano

Garza

Wells

McNutt

Cashner, Struck, Whitenack or FA signee

 

Bullpen

Marmol

Marshall

Our Carpenter

Shark

Beliveau

Rhoderick or Kurcz

 

If Jackson and McNutt become a quality OBP, decent power/speed combo CF and a middle rotation starter respectively, we've got a solid squad here for somewhere around 100 mill.......

[Little Slide Rooter]

Solid but not spectacular. Even if you do sign Greinke he's just as inconsistent as Garza. As for Wells, he's a decent enough 5 stater at his current price, but as soon as he's due a pay raise, id just as soon let somebody else give it to him and maybe even hope that someone like Struck, Whitenack, or whoever can step in as the 5 starter. Maybe Jay Jackson can even pull himself back together. Whatever the combination of the guys mentioned, the rotation doesn't strike me as being any better than we have now, unless Cashner and McNutt can become legit mid or even front of the rotation guys.

[Guest]

If you trade him for prospects, you're probably looking at signing Chris Carpenter on a short term deal and then going all out for one of Liriano/Marcum/Greinke/Weaver in 2013.

 

I think there's a lot of downside in playing the waiting game to get a quality SP.

[Little Slide Rooter]

If you trade him for prospects, you're probably looking at signing Chris Carpenter on a short term deal and then going all out for one of Liriano/Marcum/Greinke/Weaver in 2013.

 

I think there's a lot of downside in playing the waiting game to get a quality SP.

 

Not to mention that those are 4 very inconsistent pitchers, and Marcum and Liriano have plenty of injury history.

[Little Slide Rooter]

It seems to me that Z went through this exact same thing 2 years ago. In think the words then were if they trade me, than they don't likes me no more. If he does agree to waive it, I assure you he'll only have a small list of teams he'll accept a trade to. The Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox, and Cardinals I think. I wonder if they'd ever consider the Z for Peavy deal that was discussed in 2009. Just media talk, no proper rumors, but I remember hearing about it. As I recall, the logic was that Peavy prefers the NL, most notably the Cubs and Z has a good relationship with Ozzie. Peavys probably a better pitcher than Z, but he's also like Harden in that you have to keep him in a glass case.

[davell]

What other choice do we have though?(I'm asking this with the assumption Z IS dealt obviously) I'm not seeing anyone else out there that's a possibility. Now, if you're asking this rhetorically as if to say we shouldn't trade Z, I can see that argument for sure. But, I think that if we COULD get one of the Yankee catchers or Betances then I'd probably be talked into moving Z and giving this type of longterm plan a shot Because of the upside we'd be getting back.

 

On the other hand, if he'd moved for a Ted Lilly type package, I'd pass. He's of more use to us and our possibilities over the 2012 season than adding some middling guys who probably won't contribute a ton either. Z isn't a 17 mill type of pitcher at this point, but he's certainly got value. Basically, if it's me, we need to get something very solid in return, or just keep him and hope for the best with whatever type additions we can make over the offseason.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Well the clear choice is not trading him unless your getting close to full salary relief or top prospects. Its not we have better pitching options. If Cashner or McNutt are one day as good as Z, we can chalk them up as huge successes. Trading Z for anytjing less than top value would be an idiotic, knee jerk reaction, but hey, this is the Cubs organization were talking about.

[DivineBovine]

I doubt the Cubs will be getting "top prospects" for Zambrano.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I doubt the Cubs will be getting "top prospects" for Zambrano.

 

Then teams won't be getting Zambrano.

[Magnetic Curses]

I doubt the Cubs will be getting "top prospects" for Zambrano.

 

what? a 30 year old career starting pitcher that's never posted an era over 4 in a season? and you think no team would get desperate at the deadline and overpay for him?

[NOLA]

I think we should start a third thread about trading Zambrano.

 

I do think a team like the Yankees, Diamondbacks, or Rockies could overpay for Z. I could see the Tigers or White Sox overpaying if things get tight in that division.

 

The biggest thing in the Cubs favor is that there are several races becoming more an more competitive, with less teams completely out of it with value to trade. Let's hope there are several 3 team races at the deadline.

Tigers, Indians, White Sox

Texas, Seattle, LA Angels

New York, Boston, Tampa

Arizona, SF, Colorado

That's not even counting Wild Card teams. I cannot imagine the Cubs would ever trade Z to the Reds, Brewers or Cards. Z in a Cards uni would make me vomit.

[Bull]

FWIW Zambrano spoke to Rosenthal during today's game and made it clear that he prefers to stay with the Cubs.

[Clem Fandango]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=6676087

 

CHICAGO -- Put a big X through Big Z as a possibility for the New York Yankees' starting rotation.

 

A baseball source with knowledge of the Yankees' intentions said Saturday that the team has "zero interest" in making a trade for Carlos Zambrano, the Chicago Cubs' talented but volatile right-hander.

 

In an interview with FoxSports.com, Zambrano indicated Friday that he is willing to waive the no-trade clause in his contract if the Cubs approach the three-time All-Star about being moved.

 

And there have been recent reports of the Yankees scouting Zambrano's recent starts. With the Yankees' starting staff decimated by injuries to Phil Hughes and Bartolo Colon, it seemed like a natural fit.

 

Not so, said the source, who told ESPNNewYork.com, "It's all (B.S.) There's no seriousness to it at all."

 

The official cited Zambrano's declining ability -- the velocity on his fastball has dropped in recent years from an average of 92 mph in 2009 to 89.8 mph this year, according to FanGraphs.com -- and prohibitive contract.

 

"He's just not worth the money," the official said. "The Cubs would have to pick up most if not all of the contract. I just don't see it happening."

[Illini Iceman]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=6676087

 

CHICAGO -- Put a big X through Big Z as a possibility for the New York Yankees' starting rotation.

 

A baseball source with knowledge of the Yankees' intentions said Saturday that the team has "zero interest" in making a trade for Carlos Zambrano, the Chicago Cubs' talented but volatile right-hander.

 

In an interview with FoxSports.com, Zambrano indicated Friday that he is willing to waive the no-trade clause in his contract if the Cubs approach the three-time All-Star about being moved.

 

And there have been recent reports of the Yankees scouting Zambrano's recent starts. With the Yankees' starting staff decimated by injuries to Phil Hughes and Bartolo Colon, it seemed like a natural fit.

 

Not so, said the source, who told ESPNNewYork.com, "It's all (B.S.) There's no seriousness to it at all."

 

The official cited Zambrano's declining ability -- the velocity on his fastball has dropped in recent years from an average of 92 mph in 2009 to 89.8 mph this year, according to FanGraphs.com -- and prohibitive contract.

 

"He's just not worth the money," the official said. "The Cubs would have to pick up most if not all of the contract. I just don't see it happening."

 

Since when has declining ability and a prohibitive contract been a problem for the Yankees? I thought that was their favorite kind of target for mid season deals.

[EhDubya]

Really? Over the past 5 years or so, Abreu is the only one that comes to mind that would fit that bill. Pudge too, I guess.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Really? Over the past 5 years or so, Abreu is the only one that comes to mind that would fit that bill. Pudge too, I guess.

 

Lance Berkman and Kerry Wood.

[davearm2]

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=6676087

 

CHICAGO -- Put a big X through Big Z as a possibility for the New York Yankees' starting rotation.

 

A baseball source with knowledge of the Yankees' intentions said Saturday that the team has "zero interest" in making a trade for Carlos Zambrano, the Chicago Cubs' talented but volatile right-hander.

 

In an interview with FoxSports.com, Zambrano indicated Friday that he is willing to waive the no-trade clause in his contract if the Cubs approach the three-time All-Star about being moved.

 

And there have been recent reports of the Yankees scouting Zambrano's recent starts. With the Yankees' starting staff decimated by injuries to Phil Hughes and Bartolo Colon, it seemed like a natural fit.

 

Not so, said the source, who told ESPNNewYork.com, "It's all (B.S.) There's no seriousness to it at all."

 

The official cited Zambrano's declining ability -- the velocity on his fastball has dropped in recent years from an average of 92 mph in 2009 to 89.8 mph this year, according to FanGraphs.com -- and prohibitive contract.

 

"He's just not worth the money," the official said. "The Cubs would have to pick up most if not all of the contract. I just don't see it happening."

 

Since when has declining ability and a prohibitive contract been a problem for the Yankees? I thought that was their favorite kind of target for mid season deals.

Take out the "mid season deals" part, and the rest applies to like 2/3rds of the Yankees roster. Just about everyone over there has a prohibitive contract, declining ability or both.

[UK1679666180]

I'm sure Larry and Girardi's relationship with Zambrano has something to do with it as well.