06/05 Cubs (Z) @ Cards (Carpenter) 1:15 CDT, CSN/TBS

[Keener98]

Yup good for Z. I have no problem with what he said. He didn't say marmols name, and he used "we" instead of singling anyone out. We all know Z hates losing no surprise this recent stretch has gotten to him.

[EhDubya]

We probably won't be good for those three years. I'd rather keep the two younger kids, but that's just my personal prefenrence. I don't think Jim should be fired over that trade or anything.

 

I understand it's you opinion, but I'm sorry, the bold part is a terrible reason to not dramatically improve your team, especially not for the sake of holding on to the prospects who like will have nothing close to the impact a player like Garza does. Avoiding being bad for prolonged periods of time hinges on having more players like Garza.

I just am all for doing this for good hitters, we have sucked at developing them. Had we done that deal for David Wright, cool. But we have developed a lot of nice pitchers of later. I hate trading away prospects for them.

 

Who is the front of the rotation starter we've developed? Z?

 

Archer's ceiling is probably Garza, but with his control problems it's no guarantee he'll even approach that. Trading Hak-Ju Lee irked me a bit, but he was an A ball player. The rest of the players were filler.

 

Dempster is getting older and Z may not be around much longer. I think the Garza trade was a pretty astute move, actually.

Z, Prior, Wood

 

Yeah, quite a job we did developing Prior those 2 weeks he was in the minors.

[illiniguy]

Yeah, quite a job we did developing Prior those 2 weeks he was in the minors.

Rich Hill and Seam Marshall are two more we developed. We just then chose to not use them in that role. But, both of those guys were good starters that we turned out.

[XZero771679666304]

Yeah, quite a job we did developing Prior those 2 weeks he was in the minors.

Rich Hill and Seam Marshall are two more we developed. We just then chose to not use them in that role. But, both of those guys were good starters that we turned out.

 

 

Rich Hill was good for five minutes and fell apart. Marshall was decent as a starter, but there was always a question over his ability to deal with the workload of a full season. He's much better in his current role. This organization hasn't produced a SP the caliber of Matt Garza in almost a decade.

[Pushfrog98]

I haven't read through this whole thread, so my apologies if some of this has been covered.

 

I was at the game (as I mentioned in the thread about Z calling out the team) and I thought Z looked really good today. His stuff seemed better than Carpenter's and he made Pujols look like a fool a few times.

 

Barney is solid in the field. I saw him play in Peoria and thought he would be good (defensively). It's one of the very few times I called something like that!

 

Koyie Hill is garbage.

 

WHY DO YOU PITCH TO PUJOLS!?

 

Theriot got booed VERY LOUDLY every at bat. There was a good contingency of Cubs fans near the party suite I was in. That made me smile. I'm pretty sure he was wearing an Affliction shirt under his uni.

[erik316wttn]

I was listening and it was 2-1 in the middle of the 8th. I thought 'How will they blow it today?' And the answer to that question is Albert Pujols.

 

They're not even funny bad. They're just painful bad.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Yeah, quite a job we did developing Prior those 2 weeks he was in the minors.

Rich Hill and Seam Marshall are two more we developed. We just then chose to not use them in that role. But, both of those guys were good starters that we turned out.

 

 

Rich Hill was good for five minutes and fell apart. Marshall was decent as a starter, but there was always a question over his ability to deal with the workload of a full season. He's much better in his current role. This organization hasn't produced a SP the caliber of Matt Garza in almost a decade.

 

Z and Prior were probably the last 2, and they were almost a decade ago, so I guess you're right on that, and I don't think that we so much produced Prior as we drafted a natural.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The next time it comes up, I'd still pitch to Pujols.

[TruffleShuffle]

The next time it comes up, I'd still pitch to Pujols.

 

especially as the leadoff hitter. it's worse to put the leadoff hitter on, even if he is one of the best hitters in the game.