4/3: 1:20PM CT WGN Pirates (Ohlendorf) @ Cubs (Garza)

[Little Slide Rooter]

Remember when people pledged to inject an insane amount of heroin into their forehead on Jim Hendry's doorstep? .

 

huh?

[MWV]

I have no idea where the idea came from that Byrd isn't a starter. He clearly is, and can be very productive, but he has no business hitting 1-5 on this team.

Byrd would be a great 7 hole hitter. The problems with him in the 3 hole are (among others) a lack of selectivity (3.6 P/PA over the past 3 years, below the team average) and a propensity to make ground ball outs (1.14 GO/AO over the same period).

Compare those numbers to Aramis over the same stretch of years and you have 3.9 and 0.59, respectively. Both flaws of Byrd's approach were evident today.

Edited April 3, 2011 by MWV

[mookie]

So, some positives. I am liking the come back spirit during the last two games. That is something I haven't seen from a Cubs team in a while.

[Sammy Sofa]

Remember when people pledged to inject an insane amount of heroin into their forehead on Jim Hendry's doorstep? .

 

huh?

 

What, were you in a coma for that?

[MWV]

So, some positives. I am liking the come back spirit during the last two games. That is something I haven't seen from a Cubs team in a while.

Some other positives are Starlin and Castro, his late inning error notwithstanding. Garza pitched very well too, despite Pittsburgh's managing to bloop and/or roll every god damn ball-in-play to a spot where a cub was not.

One final gripe about batting order: How many times can anyone remember a guy posting 7 TB with 1 R and no RBI? Batting Starlin leadoff is not necessarily a bad idea, but with no one behind him, (and the 8 and pitcher's spots ahead of him) he is essentially in an offensive no-man's-land.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Remember when people pledged to inject an insane amount of heroin into their forehead on Jim Hendry's doorstep? .

 

huh?

 

What, were you in a coma for that?

 

must have missed it.

[Little Slide Rooter]

And those people are meatballs who belong in Lord Sulley's gulags. Now THAT is some hyperbole.

 

Actually, that should be the challenge: the meatballs have to go all out. There's no point in getting them to change their meatball-y ways because, let's face it, they're hopeless, filthy creatures of habit, so let's go the opposite way and see them take their meatballiness to outrageous new meatball levels. Let's see some gusto, meatballs! Stop being sad sacks wallowing in the same woe is me cliches every time. Remember when people pledged to inject an insane amount of heroin into their forehead on Jim Hendry's doorstep? THAT'S what they should be striving for! If you're a meatball, go all out and meatball it the [expletive] up like nobody has ever meatballed before, because God knows you won't accomplish anything else.

 

I also submit that a poster should automatically be banned if they have been foe'd at least 20 times. I will take the bullet if necessary to institute something so awesome.

 

Still, I just think that some people, on both sides of the spectrum let themselves be affected a bit too much by what a guy theyve never met types on their computer. Ive been attacked by you many a time, sometimes maybe deservedly, others not so much, but its not something that Ive never really let get to me. If I really cared, Ive had foed you a loooong time ago. If people get out of hand, thats why we have mods, and they'll do away with them. We all remember Cubs GM, right? If its really driving you that crazy, just foe them or become a mod and you can go on meatball patrol to your hearts content.

[Sammy Sofa]

Then the game threads would be like 85% foe'd. I refuse to let the meatballs win.

[CubmanPi]

So, some positives. I am liking the come back spirit during the last two games. That is something I haven't seen from a Cubs team in a while.

Some other positives are Starlin and Castro, his late inning error notwithstanding. Garza pitched very well too, despite Pittsburgh's managing to bloop and/or roll every god damn ball-in-play to a spot where a cub was not.

One final gripe about batting order: How many times can anyone remember a guy posting 7 TB with 1 R and no RBI? Batting Starlin leadoff is not necessarily a bad idea, but with no one behind him, (and the 8 and pitcher's spots ahead of him) he is essentially in an offensive no-man's-land.

Pretty much this. He was isolated between two automatic outs, which almost completely negated his monster performance. Had it not been for a lazy fly ball from a predictably bad hitter, there would have been no runs yielded from Castro's 7 bases over 3 AB.

 

There was plenty of luck in Pittsburgh's corner in order for them to put up those runs, but with Soto, Soriano, and Byrd all batting with a runner on 3rd and less than 2 out, there absolutely MUST be at least one run generated. If the middle of the order can't be counted on for that, then...

[erik316wttn]

 

I also submit that a poster should automatically be banned if they have been foe'd at least 20 times. I will take the bullet if necessary to institute something so awesome.

 

For the love of God, please do.

[Sammy Sofa]

You'd be coming with me, Heavy Weights.

[erik316wttn]

 

Think that one through for a second. Why might people not care about exaggerated happiness when things go well but be upset about exaggerated negativity when things go bad?

 

But by your own words, the game threads are for discussing the game. Exaggerated negativity AND exaggerated happiness aren't game-related, and therefore have no place in the game thread, according to you. I'm just using your own logic here.

Edited April 4, 2011 by erik316wttn

[erik316wttn]

You'd be coming with me, Heavy Weights.

 

Like I've told you before, if I go down I'm taking you with me.

[Sammy Sofa]

That's redundant.

 

But keep up the "I hate happiness" tangent with TT. That's good isht.

[erik316wttn]

That's redundant.

 

But keep up the "I hate happiness" tangent with TT. That's good isht.

 

I don't hate happiness. I'm just pointing out the flaw in his logic. If game threads are only for game discussion, as he said himself, then both excessive negativity and excessive happiness don't belong because neither are "game discussion."

[Sammy Sofa]

The difference is everyone loves "excessive happiness." Most people here hate the excessive negativity. This is very simple to understand.

[imb]

That's redundant.

 

But keep up the "I hate happiness" tangent with TT. That's good isht.

 

I don't hate happiness. I'm just pointing out the flaw in his logic. If game threads are only for game discussion, as he said himself, then both excessive negativity and excessive happiness don't belong because neither are "game discussion."

 

http://kensten.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/digging-a-hole.jpg

[erik316wttn]

The difference is everyone loves "excessive happiness." Most people here hate the excessive negativity. This is very simple to understand.

 

I understand it just fine. I'm just saying that's not what he said.

 

This is also very simple to understand.

[Sammy Sofa]

He said this:

 

No, not even a little bit. Game threads are for discussing the game, not saying things you know aren't true/are exaggerated just because you're annoyed.

 

"Excessive happiness" is included under game discussion because it brings joy. This is the law.

[TruffleShuffle]

can't wait til the cubs win a world series (note - probably will never happen) and NSBB members (note - board will probably be long defunct in the unlikely event that the cubs ever win a world series) get scolded for celebrating and not discussing the game.

[erik316wttn]

can't wait til the cubs win a world series (note - probably will never happen) and NSBB members (note - board will probably be long defunct in the unlikely event that the cubs ever win a world series) get scolded for celebrating and not discussing the game.

 

Hey, I was just elaborating on what the man said. Don't kill the messenger.

[Guest]

Clinging to your own semantical misunderstanding is not doing you any favors.

[erik316wttn]

Clinging to your own semantical misunderstanding is not doing you any favors.

 

I'm sorry, you seem to have mistaken me for someone who gives a damn about what other people think.

 

Forgive me for finding flaw in your logic. "Game threads are for game discussion only." Your words, chief, not mine.

[Guest]

Crimeny, are you really wanting to do this? You want me to elaborate on how if someone says that "Starlin Castro could hit 30 HR with an old man's cane" after a good play that it's an exclamation for the effort of providing wit or humor to the community, enhancing the enjoyment for all involved in the thread? You want me to elaborate on how the repeated "that happens to 1 out of 30 teams in baseball" or "only the Cubs" is selfish, reactionary nonsense that only serves to irritate all involved in the thread with the absurdity of their short-sightedness? We started down this tangent in an effort to clarify why we have game threads in the first place, it wasn't meant to be an adversarial thing. But if you're going to continue to ignorantly try to play logic detective in order to somehow justify the type of comments I was condemning, and arrogantly try to prop yourself up after having the topic explained to you, there's going to be an issue.

[Yeti]

wow this thread really devolved into something resembling monkeys throwing feces at each other, bravo gentlemen!!! =D>