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i don't see receiver as a need, right now, at all.

 

You're nuts. It's not THE most pressing need, but it's up there.

 

they could use a brandon marshall-type in the same sense that any team could use a brandon marshall-type.

 

plug in a capable guard and a capable tackle and watch the receivers get better.

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plug in a capable guard and a capable tackle and watch the receivers get better.

 

What did the Pats want for Mangold when he was holding out? I wish Jerry would have gone after him.

 

It is no secret that I am not a huge Cutler fan. But if you give the guy even an average line, he is a top-10 QB. Give the guy a terrible line, and he completely folds. There are a few QBs who can put up average to good stats with a horrible line, but Jay is a guy who has to have decent line play because his footwork goes down the tubes and his decision making is not great under pressure. Getting a good line will be doubly effective.

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plug in a capable guard and a capable tackle and watch the receivers get better.

 

What did the Pats want for Mangold when he was holding out? I wish Jerry would have gone after him.

 

It is no secret that I am not a huge Cutler fan. But if you give the guy even an average line, he is a top-10 QB. Give the guy a terrible line, and he completely folds. There are a few QBs who can put up average to good stats with a horrible line, but Jay is a guy who has to have decent line play because his footwork goes down the tubes and his decision making is not great under pressure. Getting a good line will be doubly effective.

 

He has the worst line in the league this year and has a 90 QB rating. What the hell are you talking about? This isn't Rex Grossman we're talking about.

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Wilson A2000

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plug in a capable guard and a capable tackle and watch the receivers get better.

 

What did the Pats want for Mangold when he was holding out? I wish Jerry would have gone after him.

 

It is no secret that I am not a huge Cutler fan. But if you give the guy even an average line, he is a top-10 QB. Give the guy a terrible line, and he completely folds. There are a few QBs who can put up average to good stats with a horrible line, but Jay is a guy who has to have decent line play because his footwork goes down the tubes and his decision making is not great under pressure. Getting a good line will be doubly effective.

 

He has the worst line in the league this year and has a 90 QB rating. What the hell are you talking about? This isn't Rex Grossman we're talking about.

 

The line wasn't horrible last year and Jay didn't play well. Jay wasn't playing well through the first half of this year because the line was bad. As the line improved and Martz changed his play calling to help them out Jay has played better.

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plug in a capable guard and a capable tackle and watch the receivers get better.

 

What did the Pats want for Mangold when he was holding out? I wish Jerry would have gone after him.

 

It is no secret that I am not a huge Cutler fan. But if you give the guy even an average line, he is a top-10 QB. Give the guy a terrible line, and he completely folds. There are a few QBs who can put up average to good stats with a horrible line, but Jay is a guy who has to have decent line play because his footwork goes down the tubes and his decision making is not great under pressure. Getting a good line will be doubly effective.

 

He has the worst line in the league this year and has a 90 QB rating. What the hell are you talking about? This isn't Rex Grossman we're talking about.

 

The line wasn't horrible last year and Jay didn't play well. Jay wasn't playing well through the first half of this year because the line was bad. As the line improved and Martz changed his play calling to help them out Jay has played better.

 

I'm not sure what you mean that he's been playing better. If you break the season in half, Jay had a 87.5 QB rating the first 5 games of the year and a 90.0 QB rating the last 5 games of the year. There are very few QBs that could do much better than that with the 32nd ranked pass blocking oline in the league. You put Brady on that line his numbers look similar or maybe worse. Jay has kept our offense from being completely worthless. He's not the weak link.

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plug in a capable guard and a capable tackle and watch the receivers get better.

 

What did the Pats want for Mangold when he was holding out? I wish Jerry would have gone after him.

 

It is no secret that I am not a huge Cutler fan. But if you give the guy even an average line, he is a top-10 QB. Give the guy a terrible line, and he completely folds. There are a few QBs who can put up average to good stats with a horrible line, but Jay is a guy who has to have decent line play because his footwork goes down the tubes and his decision making is not great under pressure. Getting a good line will be doubly effective.

 

He has the worst line in the league this year and has a 90 QB rating. What the hell are you talking about? This isn't Rex Grossman we're talking about.

 

yeah, i have to disagree as well. jay is one of the only qbs who can still excel with a terrible line, just because once he gets out of the pocket, he can run. plus he can throw on the run.

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What did the Pats want for Mangold when he was holding out? I wish Jerry would have gone after him.

 

I'm sure you're thinking of Logan Mankins, as Mangold plays for the Jets. Anyway, New England wanted a 1st-rounder for Mankins, which is why he's still a Patriot. No thanks.

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What did the Pats want for Mangold when he was holding out? I wish Jerry would have gone after him.

 

I'm sure you're thinking of Logan Mankins, as Mangold plays for the Jets. Anyway, New England wanted a 1st-rounder for Mankins, which is why he's still a Patriot. No thanks.

 

Considering that Jerry is not really good at drafting first rounders, it was a possibility. If the Bears were going to go out and get a lineman in the draft with a first, why not get a guy with that pick who you won't have to guess with. I guess the only problem with that is you have Williams at LG already. Too bad he probably won't be a LT.

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What did the Pats want for Mangold when he was holding out? I wish Jerry would have gone after him.

 

I'm sure you're thinking of Logan Mankins, as Mangold plays for the Jets. Anyway, New England wanted a 1st-rounder for Mankins, which is why he's still a Patriot. No thanks.

 

Considering that Jerry is not really good at drafting first rounders, it was a possibility. If the Bears were going to go out and get a lineman in the draft with a first, why not get a guy with that pick who you won't have to guess with. I guess the only problem with that is you have Williams at LG already. Too bad he probably won't be a LT.

 

Considering Mankins will be 29 in March, I wouldn't trade a first-rounder for a guy who will probably start declining in the next couple years. Addressing the OL in the draft is a much better idea, but someone needs to tell Jerry that.

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Did anyone else think when fox came back from commercial showing sf and gb that fox was making a mistake and showing the wrong game?

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