Fukudome for Matsuzaka?

[javy knows my name]

To this point, however, it was a good deal even if the signing of Bradley should never have taken place. If Silva comes in this year and posts another 3.90 xFIP like last year and the Cubs let him walk, then it's a great deal. It was a bad idea at the time, but whether from blind luck or from Rothschild fixing a flaw that nobody else caught the results have been positive so far. Whether or not you want to assign "points" to somebody for that is your prerogative, but I'm simply stating the results from the trade have been positive.

This is why you and Jersey aren't going to see eye to eye

[dew1679666265]

To this point, however, it was a good deal even if the signing of Bradley should never have taken place. If Silva comes in this year and posts another 3.90 xFIP like last year and the Cubs let him walk, then it's a great deal. It was a bad idea at the time, but whether from blind luck or from Rothschild fixing a flaw that nobody else caught the results have been positive so far. Whether or not you want to assign "points" to somebody for that is your prerogative, but I'm simply stating the results from the trade have been positive.

This is why you and Jersey aren't going to see eye to eye

 

Haha, we rarely see eye to eye. Debates are good though.

[davell]

Obviously, the signing of Bradley was a huge mistake. I don't think ANYONE has questioned that after mid-2009 or so. I am definitely not a Hendry fan whatsoever, but he did the best he could after making a big mistake. He tried to fix it and he kind of did, in all honesty.

 

The Cubs wound up with Carlos Silva being paid 14 mil over 2 seasons and a 2 mill buyout to be paid by the Cubs as well. This enabled them to go get Marlon Byrd for 3 years and 15 mill total. The Mariners, on the other hand have Milton Bradley at 2 years and 21 mill, along with Carlos Silva and 2 years and 9 mill.

 

In the end, it looks to me like a bigtime mistake by Hendry, but one that he figured his way out of as best as possible.

 

Monies spent overall here are 31 mill for Silva/Byrd from the Cubs side and the Mariners are spending 30 mill for Bradley alone, since they didn't get a piece of Silva pitching halfway decently. All in all, better than I would have given Jim credit for. For once, he actually found a value buy at a position of need for the Cubs(Byrd, which I think needs to belooked at as part of this). While I totally understand the mistake of the original signing here, the subsequent events kind of turn it into a wash.

[Backtobanks]

Obviously, the signing of Bradley was a huge mistake. I don't think ANYONE has questioned that after mid-2009 or so. I am definitely not a Hendry fan whatsoever, but he did the best he could after making a big mistake. He tried to fix it and he kind of did, in all honesty.

 

The Cubs wound up with Carlos Silva being paid 14 mil over 2 seasons and a 2 mill buyout to be paid by the Cubs as well. This enabled them to go get Marlon Byrd for 3 years and 15 mill total. The Mariners, on the other hand have Milton Bradley at 2 years and 21 mill, along with Carlos Silva and 2 years and 9 mill.

 

In the end, it looks to me like a bigtime mistake by Hendry, but one that he figured his way out of as best as possible.

 

Monies spent overall here are 31 mill for Silva/Byrd from the Cubs side and the Mariners are spending 30 mill for Bradley alone, since they didn't get a piece of Silva pitching halfway decently. All in all, better than I would have given Jim credit for. For once, he actually found a value buy at a position of need for the Cubs(Byrd, which I think needs to belooked at as part of this). While I totally understand the mistake of the original signing here, the subsequent events kind of turn it into a wash.

 

Exactly my point except the subsequent events make it a clear plus (not a wash) for the Cubs unless Byrd and Silva don't produce anything next year. I understand much of the Hendry hate, but he did a great job of correcting his original mistake and needs to get some credit for that.

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[davell]

Obviously, the signing of Bradley was a huge mistake. I don't think ANYONE has questioned that after mid-2009 or so. I am definitely not a Hendry fan whatsoever, but he did the best he could after making a big mistake. He tried to fix it and he kind of did, in all honesty.

 

The Cubs wound up with Carlos Silva being paid 14 mil over 2 seasons and a 2 mill buyout to be paid by the Cubs as well. This enabled them to go get Marlon Byrd for 3 years and 15 mill total. The Mariners, on the other hand have Milton Bradley at 2 years and 21 mill, along with Carlos Silva and 2 years and 9 mill.

 

In the end, it looks to me like a bigtime mistake by Hendry, but one that he figured his way out of as best as possible.

 

Monies spent overall here are 31 mill for Silva/Byrd from the Cubs side and the Mariners are spending 30 mill for Bradley alone, since they didn't get a piece of Silva pitching halfway decently. All in all, better than I would have given Jim credit for. For once, he actually found a value buy at a position of need for the Cubs(Byrd, which I think needs to belooked at as part of this). While I totally understand the mistake of the original signing here, the subsequent events kind of turn it into a wash.

 

Exactly my point except the subsequent events make it a clear plus (not a wash) for the Cubs unless Byrd and Silva don't produce anything next year. I understand much of the Hendry hate, but he did a great job of correcting his original mistake and needs to get some credit for that.

 

Nah,I'm not going that far, because I certainly don't expect anything positive, if anything at all, out of Silva. Which makes Byrd being the guy having to carry the rest of the load to make this scenario a plus. If I'm looking at it as this: We're paying Marlon Byrd 10 mill for each the next 2 seasons. I'm going to have to look at it as a wash. We may get close to that kind of production, but he'c almost definitely not going to be worth more than that either.

 

Which, in the end, kind of personifies Hendry to me. He does some good stuff and he does some bad stuff. It kind of cancels things out and that probably makes him a league average GM. Which I'm tired of at this point and think we can do better.

[CUBZ99]

Obviously, the signing of Bradley was a huge mistake. I don't think ANYONE has questioned that after mid-2009 or so. I am definitely not a Hendry fan whatsoever, but he did the best he could after making a big mistake. He tried to fix it and he kind of did, in all honesty.

 

The Cubs wound up with Carlos Silva being paid 14 mil over 2 seasons and a 2 mill buyout to be paid by the Cubs as well. This enabled them to go get Marlon Byrd for 3 years and 15 mill total. The Mariners, on the other hand have Milton Bradley at 2 years and 21 mill, along with Carlos Silva and 2 years and 9 mill.

 

In the end, it looks to me like a bigtime mistake by Hendry, but one that he figured his way out of as best as possible.

 

Monies spent overall here are 31 mill for Silva/Byrd from the Cubs side and the Mariners are spending 30 mill for Bradley alone, since they didn't get a piece of Silva pitching halfway decently. All in all, better than I would have given Jim credit for. For once, he actually found a value buy at a position of need for the Cubs(Byrd, which I think needs to belooked at as part of this). While I totally understand the mistake of the original signing here, the subsequent events kind of turn it into a wash.

 

Exactly my point except the subsequent events make it a clear plus (not a wash) for the Cubs unless Byrd and Silva don't produce anything next year. I understand much of the Hendry hate, but he did a great job of correcting his original mistake and needs to get some credit for that.

 

Even if Byrd and Silva don't produce next year it was still a very good trade by Hendry. The Cubs got a pitcher with 100+ innings of 1.27 WHIP ball, and a CF that posted a .775 OPS for the same price as a LF that posted a .641 OPS. It is just too bad that the rest of the team that Hendry assembled sucked.

[Clem Fandango]

Not really news, but Rotoworld posted it, so I figured it could be posted here as well

 

Kosuke Fukudome recently bought a three-bedroom condo in Chicago for an estimated $1.32 million.

Well, it's clear Fukudome isn't letting the trade rumors affect his behavior. The Cubs would love to shed his $13.5 million salary for next season in order to upgrade in other areas, but finding a trade partner will be difficult. Only complicating matters is the no-trade clause in Fukudome's contract.

[Sammy Sofa]

Also complicating things is that he's a very valuable player that the Cubs really, really need next year.

[SweetZombieJesus]

Not really news, but Rotoworld posted it, so I figured it could be posted here as well

 

Kosuke Fukudome recently bought a three-bedroom condo in Chicago for an estimated $1.32 million.

 

 

Dude got done ripped off. He could get a two bed in Jeff Park for less than 1K a month. :D

[jiml60]

I do not put stock into anything Phil Rogers writes. But I would be interested to see who else is involved if this is a multiplayer deal.

 

 

Agree. I don't know how that hack still has a job.

[davearm2]

The trade wasn't Theriot for Dewitt though.

 

DeWitt is an upgrade over Theriot. The key to whether the trade was good is how the two prospects develop. If they become good major leaguers, it was a good deal. If they flame out, it was a poor trade.

 

And so far, as has been said, the Bradley for Silva deal has had good results. The trade may have been a bad idea, but it's worked out so far.

 

not really. They've got a fat heartcase on their hands that can't be counted on for anything but almost has to be given a spot.

The Cubs could have DFA'd Silva the day after the trade and still won to the tune of $5M saved.

 

Whatever production they get from Silva on the field is just gravy. And last year they got some, for sure. Next year, who knows, but regardless they've clearly come out ahead.

[SouthSideRyan]

I do not put stock into anything Phil Rogers writes. But I would be interested to see who else is involved if this is a multiplayer deal.

 

 

Agree. I don't know how that hack still has a job.

 

He's a sports journalist. If you can write competently, have a job already, and don't beat your wife/girlfriend you'll never be let go.

[shnsajax]

Not really news, but Rotoworld posted it, so I figured it could be posted here as well

 

Kosuke Fukudome recently bought a three-bedroom condo in Chicago for an estimated $1.32 million.

Well, it's clear Fukudome isn't letting the trade rumors affect his behavior. The Cubs would love to shed his $13.5 million salary for next season in order to upgrade in other areas, but finding a trade partner will be difficult. Only complicating matters is the no-trade clause in Fukudome's contract.

 

Is Huet's condo still for sell. Would be funny if he just bought it from him.