2010-2011 Chicago Bulls Thread

[17 Seconds]

rose's monstrous 2 hander from tonight

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fisaaskiemc

[chuckywang]

Crows booed pretty loudly at the end, and I'm pretty sure it was for Thibs

 

I'm sorry but when the deficit is single digits with 4+ minutes left, you gotta put your only good players back on the court. At that point, what is 4 more minutes of game time? Is that really going te make a difference in their play tomorrow? It's 4 minutes of running aorund.

 

We're probably going to get blown out by Boston anyways. We need Boozer in a bad way

 

Thibs just doesn't want to get choked by Paxson.

[Flames24Rulz]

Bring back Vinny.

 

That was one of the worst coaching jobs I've seen in the NBA. How the hell do you let your two best players sit when it's a 9 point game with 4:30 remaining? [expletive] brutal. Reminded me of Game 1 of the NLDS from 2007. Nothing like saving Rose and Noah for a 15-20 point L tonight against Boston!

 

I know NY was making everything, but does this team know what a close out is? I'd say 75% of their makes were wide open looks.

 

Korver has to be the starting 2 guard too. Just cut Bogans and be done with that.

[Soul]

I know, but NY was just dropping every damn 3 they needed to make.

 

God that was frustrating :(

 

Although I gotta hand it to them. They made their shots.

[scarey]

Bring back Vinny.

I'd say 75% of their makes were wide open looks.

 

I keep hearing this but it's just not true. I just watched the recap at nba.com and it had 6 of NY's 3s in the recap. One of them was uncontested out of 6. I specifically remember two of Toney Douglas' threes he had to fade away to get it off.

 

It was just their night.

[SouthSideRyan]

You know, you guys did shoot pretty damn good from 3 too.

[Keener98]

I still can't believe Brian [expletive] Scalibrine guarded Amare Stoudamire last night. Seriously?

[Flames24Rulz]

Bring back Vinny.

I'd say 75% of their makes were wide open looks.

 

I keep hearing this but it's just not true. I just watched the recap at nba.com and it had 6 of NY's 3s in the recap. One of them was uncontested out of 6. I specifically remember two of Toney Douglas' threes he had to fade away to get it off.

 

It was just their night.

 

Again, the close outs were late on the majority of their 3s. It was bad defense. Yes, they were on last night but after all of the crap we've been hearing about how improved we are on defense, that was a gigantic turd of a performance.

[SpongeWorthy]

Knicks made every kind of three there was. Good looks off drive and kick, good looks off of double teams in the post, good looks off P&R, contested step backs, 26 footers, good looks off of broken plays because of offensive rebounds.

 

Bogans has a role but he needs to be one of those guys that starts but only plays 15 minutes or so, at most. Thibs has to stagger the rotation better so we're not left out on the floor with Watson, JJ, Scal, and Asik simultaneously.

[Soul]

So was it just wanting to rest Rose for the next game or something? I'm not clear on why we had a scrub lineup in there down the stretch when the game had gotten close (as others have mentioned).

 

A friend pops in my office this morning and goes "did you see your coach had Rose on the bench down the stretch last night? Is he an idiot?"

 

LOL.

 

Yeah, I saw. :good:

[SpongeWorthy]

Here's what it was. The Bulls were down like 17 or 18 to start the 2nd half and basically played out of their minds in the 3rd quarter. But the Knicks kept raining 3s from all over the place and what should've been a tie game (or something close) going into the 4th was still a 10 point Knick lead. The starters played the entire 3rd quarter and Rose still started the 4th. The Knicks quickly bumped the lead up to 17 or so again and Thibs sent in the surrender lineup. Then the surrender lineup chips away at the lead to get it to 9 with under 5 left.

 

At this point you could put Rose and Noah back in but he figured the scrubs had gotten the game somewhat close and that the starters already blew their wad in the 3rd quarter trying to catch up. And yes, he probably wanted to save something for Boston.

 

I don't see it as that big a deal.

[UMFan83]

Those that are bitching about the Bulls defense being at fault for all those made 3's most likely didn't watch the game. Yes there were some uncontested 3's, some that we were late getting a hand up etc, but it was also a lot of "nice we forced them into a fadeaway 3 as the shot clock is expiring....oh [expletive] they made it again" There was a stretch where it was just raining 3's. Every time up they'd jack up a 3 and it would swish. I think they missed 3 of their last 5 threes when the game was pretty much over, so the numbers when the game was actually winnable were staggering. 14-19 is insane.

[ChiCubsFan]

I still can't believe Brian [expletive] Scalibrine guarded Amare Stoudamire last night. Seriously?

Didn't Amare have a pretty bad game. I remember looking at his FG% last night and thinking he had a [expletive] game. I didn't see the game so I don't really know.

[scarey]

You know, you guys did shoot pretty damn good from 3 too.

 

Yep, after they were forced to resort to raining threes from Korver with 12 minutes to go in the 4th when he went 4-6. Which brings up the question why don't the Bulls try to do that more often? Everyone in the arena knew what the Bulls were trying to do and Korver was still sinking them.

 

Deng I'm pretty sure all of Deng's and Rose's makes were wide open.

[Flames24Rulz]

Those that are bitching about the Bulls defense being at fault for all those made 3's most likely didn't watch the game. Yes there were some uncontested 3's, some that we were late getting a hand up etc, but it was also a lot of "nice we forced them into a fadeaway 3 as the shot clock is expiring....oh [expletive] they made it again" There was a stretch where it was just raining 3's. Every time up they'd jack up a 3 and it would swish. I think they missed 3 of their last 5 threes when the game was pretty much over, so the numbers when the game was actually winnable were staggering. 14-19 is insane.

 

I watched the entire game and I know what I saw. The lack of communication on defense was the real scary thing. Guys weren't picking up the players who were getting screened, and that contributed to quite a number of their good looks from 3.

 

Towards the end, it was getting really ridiculous because they were even draining the tightly contested shots.

[Flames24Rulz]

You know, you guys did shoot pretty damn good from 3 too.

 

Yep, after they were forced to resort to raining threes from Korver with 12 minutes to go in the 4th when he went 4-6. Which brings up the question why don't the Bulls try to do that more often? Everyone in the arena knew what the Bulls were trying to do and Korver was still sinking them.

 

Deng I'm pretty sure all of Deng's and Rose's makes were wide open.

 

Again, Korver needs to start.

[SouthSideRyan]

Players don't become good defenders overnight and coaches don't become good head coaches overnight. Thibodeaux and the players will adapt and improve as the season progresses.

[UMFan83]

Players don't become good defenders overnight and coaches don't become good head coaches overnight. Thibodeaux and the players will adapt and improve as the season progresses.

 

Hey SSR, did you flip out pretty much every single time Scalabrine got burn for the C's over the last 4-5 years even when half the time he didn't even really do anything bad?

 

My theory is that he just looks so incredibly unfit to play basketball let alone any sort of athletic competition that he always looks like he's messing something up with his awkward looking out of shape ginger body.

 

Edit: by no means do I think he should be playing the minutes tubadough (ok I've been saving that one for the first time he pissed me off) has been playing him, but half the time on RealGM (myself included) i've seen posters yelling at him for playing like 3 consecutive minutes of a game.

[SpongeWorthy]

You can't hide Scal when he's playing with [expletive] CJ Watson, Asik, a gimp Brewer, etc.

[SouthSideRyan]

Maybe I don't have a trained enough eye, but I never saw what it was Scalabrine was bringing to the table, even as an 11th guy. He sets the sloppiest screens you'll ever see, is too slow to guard anyone with athleticism and too weak to guard anyone with strength. The only thing I ever saw him do well was shoot the 3. He never bothered me much cause he'd only play garbage minutes, and then the '08-'09 playoffs happened and Rivers lost me forever.

[Sammy Sofa]

tubadough

 

Don't ever do that again.

[imb]

Players don't become good defenders overnight and coaches don't become good head coaches overnight. Thibodeaux and the players will adapt and improve as the season progresses.

 

Hey SSR, did you flip out pretty much every single time Scalabrine got burn for the C's over the last 4-5 years even when half the time he didn't even really do anything bad?

 

My theory is that he just looks so incredibly unfit to play basketball let alone any sort of athletic competition that he always looks like he's messing something up with his awkward looking out of shape ginger body.

 

Edit: by no means do I think he should be playing the minutes tubadough (ok I've been saving that one for the first time he pissed me off) has been playing him, but half the time on RealGM (myself included) i've seen posters yelling at him for playing like 3 consecutive minutes of a game.

 

last year in okc, i went to the boston game with 5 friends and every time he had the ball, we would yell SHOOT IT as loud as we could (we were cool drunk)

 

Anyway, all he would do is set a pick and then run and hide in the corner baseline. Every time. Why anyone even guarded him I have no idea. So in the 4th quarter, with boston ahead by about 30 or whatever, he sets a screen and runs to the corner. Only whoever the hell was rondo's backup got picked up, and with 2 seconds left on the clock, kicked it to a wide open scalabrine.

 

By this time, our entire section was yelling SHOOT IT at him every time he touched the ball. But his time he actually had to shoot it, since time was expiring. We all yelled SHOOT IT, he shot it and ... hit the side of the backboard for a 24-second violation. I don't think I've ever seen home fans laugh that loudly during a blowout loss.

[UMFan83]

tubadough

 

Don't ever do that again.

 

I can't hide my genius.

 

My other thought was...

 

"whoops he left Scal in for 10 minutes and the opponents went on a 15-2 run, another Thiba-D'oh"

[UMFan83]

Maybe I don't have a trained enough eye, but I never saw what it was Scalabrine was bringing to the table, even as an 11th guy. He sets the sloppiest screens you'll ever see, is too slow to guard anyone with athleticism and too weak to guard anyone with strength. The only thing I ever saw him do well was shoot the 3. He never bothered me much cause he'd only play garbage minutes, and then the '08-'09 playoffs happened and Rivers lost me forever.

 

My Scalabrine performance chart goes from "He's only hurting us slightly" to "He just took out a knife and stabbed Rose to death in the middle of the court". So far he's been on the "only hurting us slightly" side of the spectrum.

 

It's amazing how dumb of a signing Scal was for the Celtics. He got a 5 year $15 mil contract from the Celtics. The funny thing is he had a couple of not pathetic seasons in NJ before signing with Boston. PS they were still bad but not 13th man bad

[SpongeWorthy]

Bogans has 3 brutal turnovers leading to easy fast break buckets. Defense looks good though.