Royals will listen to any offers about Greinke

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

I am a Cub fan for Greinke.

 

Not sure how it'd get done, but trading for Greinke is pretty much the best move a teamcould make this offseason after signing Cliff Lee. My only issue is that neither the farm system or MLB team is loaded enough to take a major hit in talent in multiple areas to upgrade in one. That said, we have the resources to lock him up and build around him so...yeah.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I've heard that the Cubs have kicked the tires on this on one of the radio stations down here. The AM dj guy thought that the Royals would want BJack, Cashner, and Archer.

 

It would be a lot easier of a decison if theyd take someone like JJax, Carpenter, or Coleman instead of Archer, but thats pretty much the type of package that youd have to give up for a guy like Greinke unless its a salary dump or they were trying to rush him out of town, but neithers thst case. With such a package however, we should be able to get Alex Gordon as well if we were to throw in another smaller piece.

[erik316wttn]

I am a Cub fan for Greinke.

 

Not sure how it'd get done, but trading for Greinke is pretty much the best move a teamcould make this offseason after signing Cliff Lee. My only issue is that neither the farm system or MLB team is loaded enough to take a major hit in talent in multiple areas to upgrade in one. That said, we have the resources to lock him up and build around him so...yeah.

 

Cubs 2010-11 offseason:

 

Trade for Grienke

Sign Cliff Lee

Wait for spring

[rawaction]

I've heard that the Cubs have kicked the tires on this on one of the radio stations down here. The AM dj guy thought that the Royals would want BJack, Cashner, and Archer.

 

It would be a lot easier of a decison if theyd take someone like JJax, Carpenter, or Coleman instead of Archer, but thats pretty much the type of package that youd have to give up for a guy like Greinke unless its a salary dump or they were trying to rush him out of town, but neithers thst case. With such a package however, we should be able to get Alex Gordon as well if we were to throw in another smaller piece.

 

How would it not be a salary dump? He's going from 7Mil to 13.5Mil. Nobody else on the team will make more than 4Mil. Oh and Alex Gordon has no value. He's a 3B turned OF, who hasn't shown he can hit well enough to be valuable at either position. His minor league numbers have not translated and next year will be his 5th year in the majors and he will now be at the age where he doesn't have a lot of time to figure it out (27).

[Coach C]

I've heard that the Cubs have kicked the tires on this on one of the radio stations down here. The AM dj guy thought that the Royals would want BJack, Cashner, and Archer.

 

It would be a lot easier of a decison if theyd take someone like JJax, Carpenter, or Coleman instead of Archer, but thats pretty much the type of package that youd have to give up for a guy like Greinke unless its a salary dump or they were trying to rush him out of town, but neithers thst case. With such a package however, we should be able to get Alex Gordon as well if we were to throw in another smaller piece.

 

How would it not be a salary dump? He's going from 7Mil to 13.5Mil. Nobody else on the team will make more than 4Mil. Oh and Alex Gordon has no value. He's a 3B turned OF, who hasn't shown he can hit well enough to be valuable at either position. His minor league numbers have not translated and next year will be his 5th year in the majors and he will now be at the age where he doesn't have a lot of time to figure it out (27).

 

Absolutely agree on Alex Gordon, and I might also add in that he's a injury riddled guy who likes to talk out of his flaming a**. Every season, not to my surprise, there is always an Alex Gordon article about how he wants to improve and gonna dominate, only to translate a .210 batting average, 1 HR, 3 RBI's before landing on the DL with a phantom injury, and abiding his time in the minors throughout June to August, and be back in time in September call-ups, which coincidentally I might add, that scrubs/AAA/AA minor leaguers players get called up, and his numbers looks a little "better" somehow.

 

Alex Gordon is trash, to sum it up.

[biittner77]

If you're KC, do you want stud prospects or MLB ready talent? It seems like teams like KC keep trying to add prospects that never seem to amount to anything or at least doesn't translate into a better team.

 

A package of Wells, Colvin, Coleman and one or two of the many RH relievers would probably do them a lot more good than B Jackson. It would also save them a bunch of money. None of those guys are studs but they'd all start for the Royals, wouldn't they?

[SouthSideRyan]

I've heard that the Cubs have kicked the tires on this on one of the radio stations down here. The AM dj guy thought that the Royals would want BJack, Cashner, and Archer.

 

It would be a lot easier of a decison if theyd take someone like JJax, Carpenter, or Coleman instead of Archer, but thats pretty much the type of package that youd have to give up for a guy like Greinke unless its a salary dump or they were trying to rush him out of town, but neithers thst case. With such a package however, we should be able to get Alex Gordon as well if we were to throw in another smaller piece.

 

How would it not be a salary dump? He's going from 7Mil to 13.5Mil. Nobody else on the team will make more than 4Mil. Oh and Alex Gordon has no value. He's a 3B turned OF, who hasn't shown he can hit well enough to be valuable at either position. His minor league numbers have not translated and next year will be his 5th year in the majors and he will now be at the age where he doesn't have a lot of time to figure it out (27).

 

Absolutely agree on Alex Gordon, and I might also add in that he's a injury riddled guy who likes to talk out of his flaming a**. Every season, not to my surprise, there is always an Alex Gordon article about how he wants to improve and gonna dominate, only to translate a .210 batting average, 1 HR, 3 RBI's before landing on the DL with a phantom injury, and abiding his time in the minors throughout June to August, and be back in time in September call-ups, which coincidentally I might add, that scrubs/AAA/AA minor leaguers players get called up, and his numbers looks a little "better" somehow.

 

Alex Gordon is trash, to sum it up.

 

Sounds like Gordon has it all figured out.

[Clem Fandango]

I've heard that the Cubs have kicked the tires on this on one of the radio stations down here. The AM dj guy thought that the Royals would want BJack, Cashner, and Archer.

 

It would be a lot easier of a decison if theyd take someone like JJax, Carpenter, or Coleman instead of Archer, but thats pretty much the type of package that youd have to give up for a guy like Greinke unless its a salary dump or they were trying to rush him out of town, but neithers thst case. With such a package however, we should be able to get Alex Gordon as well if we were to throw in another smaller piece.

 

How would it not be a salary dump? He's going from 7Mil to 13.5Mil. Nobody else on the team will make more than 4Mil. Oh and Alex Gordon has no value. He's a 3B turned OF, who hasn't shown he can hit well enough to be valuable at either position. His minor league numbers have not translated and next year will be his 5th year in the majors and he will now be at the age where he doesn't have a lot of time to figure it out (27).

 

Absolutely agree on Alex Gordon, and I might also add in that he's a injury riddled guy who likes to talk out of his flaming a**. Every season, not to my surprise, there is always an Alex Gordon article about how he wants to improve and gonna dominate, only to translate a .210 batting average, 1 HR, 3 RBI's before landing on the DL with a phantom injury, and abiding his time in the minors throughout June to August, and be back in time in September call-ups, which coincidentally I might add, that scrubs/AAA/AA minor leaguers players get called up, and his numbers looks a little "better" somehow.

 

Alex Gordon is trash, to sum it up.

 

I'd still take a flier on him if he were to come cheaply, but I doubt the Royals are ready to give him up for peanuts

[Coach C]

If you're KC, do you want stud prospects or MLB ready talent? It seems like teams like KC keep trying to add prospects that never seem to amount to anything or at least doesn't translate into a better team.

 

A package of Wells, Colvin, Coleman and one or two of the many RH relievers would probably do them a lot more good than B Jackson. It would also save them a bunch of money. None of those guys are studs but they'd all start for the Royals, wouldn't they?

 

KC will suck in 2011, they just hope for sub-90 losses and look forward to their gigantic mountain of prospects to graduate to AAA and KC. In 2012, if a disaster doesn't happen and they at least have half of their top-flight prospects make it, I'd think they expect a 0.500 team as they figure out how to play in the majors. (if everything breaks their way, every prospect is a star, etc maybe they compete in 2012. Thats what the Royals are trying to sell, but I'm just speculating.)

 

In 2013 and 2014 they need to be winning. If they have 4 losing seasons from 2011 through the end of 2014, with the #1 minor league system in all of baseball, and an all-time record in number of players sent to represent USA Baseball (6), that would be a devastating disappointment.

 

So I think they are probably looking for AA to AAA players who can join in with the number #1 minor league system that would be MLB ready in 2012-2013.

 

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/10/03/2272981/the-2010-royals-a-collection-of.html#ixzz11V6Lv2NF

 

Moore is responsible for a bad team that will be worse next year, but he’s also responsible for a farm system that’s likely to be ranked first by Baseball America. Remember, every farm system ranked first has led to a playoff team within four years, with only one exception since 1992.

[illiniguy]

I've heard that the Cubs have kicked the tires on this on one of the radio stations down here. The AM dj guy thought that the Royals would want BJack, Cashner, and Archer.

 

It would be a lot easier of a decison if theyd take someone like JJax, Carpenter, or Coleman instead of Archer, but thats pretty much the type of package that youd have to give up for a guy like Greinke unless its a salary dump or they were trying to rush him out of town, but neithers thst case. With such a package however, we should be able to get Alex Gordon as well if we were to throw in another smaller piece.

 

How would it not be a salary dump? He's going from 7Mil to 13.5Mil. Nobody else on the team will make more than 4Mil. Oh and Alex Gordon has no value. He's a 3B turned OF, who hasn't shown he can hit well enough to be valuable at either position. His minor league numbers have not translated and next year will be his 5th year in the majors and he will now be at the age where he doesn't have a lot of time to figure it out (27).

 

Absolutely agree on Alex Gordon, and I might also add in that he's a injury riddled guy who likes to talk out of his flaming a**. Every season, not to my surprise, there is always an Alex Gordon article about how he wants to improve and gonna dominate, only to translate a .210 batting average, 1 HR, 3 RBI's before landing on the DL with a phantom injury, and abiding his time in the minors throughout June to August, and be back in time in September call-ups, which coincidentally I might add, that scrubs/AAA/AA minor leaguers players get called up, and his numbers looks a little "better" somehow.

 

Alex Gordon is trash, to sum it up.

 

I'd still take a flier on him if he were to come cheaply, but I doubt the Royals are ready to give him up for peanuts

I love how every year they can't find at bats for Alex so they have to move him to the minors, but Mitch Maier can play the outfileld and get 500 at bats while adding zero value.

[chasinf5s]

I wonder what it would take to get Greinke and Gordon and call it an off season. Maybe a package of:

 

Colvin

J. Jackson/Carpenter

Hak Ju Lee/Junior Lake

 

plus a few mid level propsects or major league ready guys. If theyd laugh too hard, maybe replace Colvin with Vitters. Maybe if we get creative, we could get Soria in the mix.

 

Soria has a NTC for the Cubs

[Clem Fandango]

I wonder what it would take to get Greinke and Gordon and call it an off season. Maybe a package of:

 

Colvin

J. Jackson/Carpenter

Hak Ju Lee/Junior Lake

 

plus a few mid level propsects or major league ready guys. If theyd laugh too hard, maybe replace Colvin with Vitters. Maybe if we get creative, we could get Soria in the mix.

 

Soria has a NTC for the Cubs

 

Well I have a NTC for Soria so he can go to hell

[otis89]

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/10/03/2272981/the-2010-royals-a-collection-of.html#ixzz11V6Lv2NF

 

Moore is responsible for a bad team that will be worse next year, but he’s also responsible for a farm system that’s likely to be ranked first by Baseball America. Remember, every farm system ranked first has led to a playoff team within four years, with only one exception since 1992.

 

Who was the exception?

[Northside Blues]

It's someone in the 90s. It's happened each of the last ten years. I can't see BA's top teams from the 90s, they have all of them listed since 87 but no access.

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/prospects/rankings/organization-talent-rankings/2005/26903.html

 

a quick glance at old top 100s would lead me to guess the 1998 Marlins or 1994 Blue Jays