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your point?

 

that +/- is not a great stat for judging a players performance. I would say that watching the Hawks this year I would say that Keith, Seabrook and Hjalmarsson are not playing as well as they did last year.

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is tallon still working for the blackhawks? i really am trying to see the motivation behind the trade from their side, and i can't. here, take a reasonably productive nhl forward and a goalie prospect for a fourth line center, a middling forward prospect and the biggest bust from possibly the best first round draft in nhl history.
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your point?

 

that +/- is not a great stat for judging a players performance. I would say that watching the Hawks this year I would say that Keith, Seabrook and Hjalmarsson are not playing as well as they did last year.

 

no i know. i wasn't judging them by the plus/minus. i was just pointing it out because it backs up how they've looked most of the year.

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I had high hopes for Skille a couple of years ago. At least he helped the Hawks out by getting traded. Great trade. Hopefully this will give us even a little scoring burst. Is he a 2 way player, aka is he any good defensively?
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I had high hopes for Skille a couple of years ago. At least he helped the Hawks out by getting traded. Great trade. Hopefully this will give us even a little scoring burst. Is he a 2 way player, aka is he any good defensively?

 

Not really.

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I think Tallon has just always had a boner for Skille. What a dumb trade for him.

 

Thanks Oilers for sucking. Hopefully they can finish this trip strong.

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Without knowing anything else about it, statistically he looks a little like Versteeg albeit with declining numbers this year.

 

 

Versteeg:

08-09 22G  31A  53P  +15  55PIM  6PP  4SH  3GW  15.8% (139 S)
09-10 20   24   44   + 8  35     4    3    4    10.9% (184 S)
10-11 14   21   35   -13  29     5    0    0    11.1% (126 5)


Frolik
08-09 21G  24A  45P  +10  22PMM  1PP  0SH  2GW  13.3% (158 S)
09-10 21G  22A  43P  - 4  43PIM  5    0    1     9.6% (219 S)
10-11  8G  21A  29P  + 2  16PIM  1    0    1     5.1% (158 S)

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I read somewhere that last year Frolik was considered an untouchable player for the Panthers. I know he's had a bad season. I wonder why the drop in performance.
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I read somewhere that last year Frolik was considered an untouchable player for the Panthers. I know he's had a bad season. I wonder why the drop in performance.

 

probably just a slump, then loses ice time. he's the type of player who has negative value if he's not producing offensively, because he's not physical and is a liability defensively. that's not to say he's bad. but it's easier for a player like skille to have value when not finding the score sheet.

 

that said, frolik still has a better ceiling and track record, and florida gave up on him too quickly (and for too small a return).

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dammit...could have made it 4-0 but the hawks couldnt score on a 2 man advantage

 

It should be 4-0. Lehtonen's power play 'save' on Seabrook was not a save. Sure as hell looked like his glove was all the way in the net with the puck in it.

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Another game where we lose a goal on a questionable call and the opponent gets a questionable goal.

 

Just awful luck this year. We are still 5th in the NHL in goal differential

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Wow...hawks take a penalty when they fling the puck into the crowd. Then a few minutes later, on a shift change, a hawks player passes the puck down ice and it hits the skate of a player coming off the ice.

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