College Football - Week 1 (Sept. 4th)

[Jon]

There's a radio report in Detroit saying that the cross-divisional game will be the last weekend of the season. And the divisions would be:

 

1 - Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern

2 - Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois

 

Honestly, I really don't get that setup. The cross-division rivalries don't make nearly as much sense.

 

The cross division rivalries should not be a high priority. And no matter how you break it down there's going to be "odd ones", like interleague baseball games nobody cares about.

The setup discussed earlier (flipping Minnesota and Illinois in this setup) makes perfect sense for cross-division rivalries.

[jersey cubs fan]

There's a radio report in Detroit saying that the cross-divisional game will be the last weekend of the season. And the divisions would be:

 

1 - Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern

2 - Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois

 

Honestly, I really don't get that setup. The cross-division rivalries don't make nearly as much sense.

 

The cross division rivalries should not be a high priority. And no matter how you break it down there's going to be "odd ones", like interleague baseball games nobody cares about.

The setup discussed earlier (flipping Minnesota and Illinois in this setup) makes perfect sense for cross-division rivalries.

 

Cross division rivals should not be the first priority. Getting the divisions right should be the top priority.

 

I would claim it's unfair just because it puts Illinois and Indiana together, automatically giving everybody in their division 2 wins.

[javy knows my name]

We should absolutely be in the same division as Wisconsin. What the [expletive]?

[Jon]

There's a radio report in Detroit saying that the cross-divisional game will be the last weekend of the season. And the divisions would be:

 

1 - Michigan, Michigan State, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern

2 - Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin, Purdue, Indiana, Illinois

 

Honestly, I really don't get that setup. The cross-division rivalries don't make nearly as much sense.

 

The cross division rivalries should not be a high priority. And no matter how you break it down there's going to be "odd ones", like interleague baseball games nobody cares about.

The setup discussed earlier (flipping Minnesota and Illinois in this setup) makes perfect sense for cross-division rivalries.

 

Cross division rivals should not be the first priority. Getting the divisions right should be the top priority.

 

I would claim it's unfair just because it puts Illinois and Indiana together, automatically giving everybody in their division 2 wins.

Rivalries are one of the top priorities. Delany already said about 90% would be preserved. Competitively there's not much difference between Minnesota and Illinois, anyways. It doesn't make any sense to me as to why they'd be aligned like that when you get a better setup just flipping Minnesota and Illinois.

[hawkeyecub]

Yep just flip Illinois and Minnesota as we talked about and it makes much more sense.

[BleacherBadger]

I forgot, but is this applying to basketball as well, or is the Big Ten doing a 12 team division?

 

Obviously, football is reasons 1, 2.....500 for the divisions, but for basketball:

 

Div 1: Michigan state and .......?

Div 2: Badgers, Ill, OSU, Purdue

 

I'd rather keep the Iowa rivalry then Minnesota. The only people that care about the Wisc-MN game anymore are those from the twin cities. The UW-MN hockey rivalry is bigger than football.

 

Although, the Axe is the coolest rivalry trophy in college football.

[Jon]

I forgot, but is this applying to basketball as well, or is the Big Ten doing a 12 team division?

 

Obviously, football is reasons 1, 2.....500 for the divisions, but for basketball:

 

Div 1: Michigan state and .......?

Div 2: Badgers, Ill, OSU, Purdue

 

I'd rather keep the Iowa rivalry then Minnesota. The only people that care about the Wisc-MN game anymore are those from the twin cities. The UW-MN hockey rivalry is bigger than football.

 

Although, the Axe is the coolest rivalry trophy in college football.

This only applies to football. They haven't had any time to think about basketball yet, but Delany said previously he didn't think there would be a need for divisions in basketball. I doubt there will be many sports other than football to adopt divisions.

[jersey cubs fan]

Rivalries are one of the top priorities. Delany already said about 90% would be preserved. Competitively there's not much difference between Minnesota and Illinois, anyways. It doesn't make any sense to me as to why they'd be aligned like that when you get a better setup just flipping Minnesota and Illinois.

 

Yes, rivalries are a top priority for determining the division. Cross divisional rivalries are not a top priority.

[Jon]

Rivalries are one of the top priorities. Delany already said about 90% would be preserved. Competitively there's not much difference between Minnesota and Illinois, anyways. It doesn't make any sense to me as to why they'd be aligned like that when you get a better setup just flipping Minnesota and Illinois.

 

Yes, rivalries are a top priority for determining the division. Cross divisional rivalries are not a top priority.

Rivalries whether within the same division or across division are the same thing. The only thing that matters (mattered) in regards to rivalries to the Big Ten ADs is that they'd get to play the teams they wanted to play every year.

[jersey cubs fan]

Rivalries are one of the top priorities. Delany already said about 90% would be preserved. Competitively there's not much difference between Minnesota and Illinois, anyways. It doesn't make any sense to me as to why they'd be aligned like that when you get a better setup just flipping Minnesota and Illinois.

 

Yes, rivalries are a top priority for determining the division. Cross divisional rivalries are not a top priority.

Rivalries whether within the same division or across division are the same thing. The only thing that matters (mattered) in regards to rivalries to the Big Ten ADs is that they'd get to play the teams they wanted to play every year.

 

I don't understand what your complaint is. No matter what you do somebody will feel some rivalry is getting the shaft, but you are complaining about cross division rivals when all that means is the rival already exists within the division.

[Jon]

Rivalries are one of the top priorities. Delany already said about 90% would be preserved. Competitively there's not much difference between Minnesota and Illinois, anyways. It doesn't make any sense to me as to why they'd be aligned like that when you get a better setup just flipping Minnesota and Illinois.

 

Yes, rivalries are a top priority for determining the division. Cross divisional rivalries are not a top priority.

Rivalries whether within the same division or across division are the same thing. The only thing that matters (mattered) in regards to rivalries to the Big Ten ADs is that they'd get to play the teams they wanted to play every year.

 

I don't understand what your complaint is. No matter what you do somebody will feel some rivalry is getting the shaft, but you are complaining about cross division rivals when all that means is the rival already exists within the division.

Of course there are some that won't be maintained. What I'm saying is that the placement of Illinois and Minnesota reduces the number of rivalries kept intact compared to a division setup where those teams were reversed, whether intra-division games or protected cross-division rivalries.

[Jon]

Indy Star reporting that the 2011 and 2012 schedules will be announced tonight, as well.

 

And Delany confirmed the announcement will be made at 6 PM.

[Guest]

Katz reporting divisions are

 

Michigan

Nebraska

Iowa

Michigan State

Northwestern

Minnesota

 

Ohio State

Penn State

Wisconsin

Purdue

Indiana

Illinois

[hawkeyecub]

Katz reporting divisions are

 

Michigan

Nebraska

Iowa

Michigan State

Northwestern

Minnesota

 

Ohio State

Penn State

Wisconsin

Purdue

Indiana

Illinois

 

I'm fine with that though I would like to see Illinois and Minnesota switched. It will be interesting to see they cross-division rivalries though. There will have to be an odd one like Iowa-Indiana or Iowa-Purdue.

[Jon]

He's also reporting basketball setup:

 

ESPN.com[/url]"]In men's basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games -- three at home and three on the road -- against teams in the opposing division.

 

I'd be surprised if they made the determination already to have these divisions be used for basketball. Really surprised, actually.

[BleacherBadger]

He's also reporting basketball setup:

 

ESPN.com[/url]"]In men's basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games -- three at home and three on the road -- against teams in the opposing division.

 

I'd be surprised if they made the determination already to have these divisions be used for basketball. Really surprised, actually.

 

Confirming my earlier post. Congratulations Tom Izzo. Sit back and watch Wisc, OSU, Purdue, and Ill fight it out year after year.

[Andy]

Seems to me that barring a surprise performance that those will basically be a pair of 3-team battles for division titles every year (presuming Michigan wakes up).

[Jon]

I'm fine with that though I would like to see Illinois and Minnesota switched. It will be interesting to see they cross-division rivalries though. There will have to be an odd one like Iowa-Indiana or Iowa-Purdue.

I have no idea how you guys ended up with a protected cross-division game with Indiana.

[hawkeyecub]

I'm fine with that though I would like to see Illinois and Minnesota switched. It will be interesting to see they cross-division rivalries though. There will have to be an odd one like Iowa-Indiana or Iowa-Purdue.

I have no idea how you guys ended up with a protected cross-division game with Indiana.

 

Neither do I but it's pretty sweet. If the basketball schedule is as Katz proposes, that's even better.

[SouthSideRyan]

I blame women's basketball for this fiasco

[Derwood]

Sucks to be stuck in OSU's division

[EhDubya]

He's also reporting basketball setup:

 

ESPN.com[/url]"]In men's basketball, according to sources, the Big Ten is expected to play a 16-game conference schedule by taking a model similar to those used by the Big 12 and the Southeastern Conference. In those leagues, teams play each division opponent twice and then single games -- three at home and three on the road -- against teams in the opposing division.

 

I'd be surprised if they made the determination already to have these divisions be used for basketball. Really surprised, actually.

 

Confirming my earlier post. Congratulations Tom Izzo. Sit back and watch Wisc, OSU, Purdue, and Ill fight it out year after year.

 

Uncongratulations Penn State basketball fans. I thought it couldn't get any worse.

[SouthSideRyan]

Oh, and I don't believe that the basketball schedule will break down like that. There have been no hints pointing towards that setup, and there's no reason to go away from an 18 game schedule. And MSU's division is SEC West brutal.

[Jon]

Oh, and I don't believe that the basketball schedule will break down like that. There have been no hints pointing towards that setup, and there's no reason to go away from an 18 game schedule. And MSU's division is SEC West brutal.

I'm not sure what the incentive is for a 16 game schedule.

 

 

This is a pretty nice weekend to have games played in the south. Northwestern is playing at Vanderbilt and temps might not even break out of the 70s this Saturday in Nashville.

[SouthSideRyan]

Oh, and I don't believe that the basketball schedule will break down like that. There have been no hints pointing towards that setup, and there's no reason to go away from an 18 game schedule. And MSU's division is SEC West brutal.

I'm not sure what the incentive is for a 16 game schedule.

 

 

 

I guess it's an extra payday for each school (home game) or an extra opponent to build your resume without hurting those of others in your conference, but I still don't see it.