Derrek Lee Blocks Trade to Angels

[daske17]

Levine is reporting that Lee will not waive his NTC.

 

 

[expletive] you Hendry

Umm, he's a 10 and 5 guy dude. He could block regardless of Hendry's doings.

 

+1

 

What was Hendry going to do? He had no leverage whatsoever.

[treebird]

tell lee he's benched until he hits a hr in batting practice if he doesn't waive his 10-5

 

this is easy.

[jersey cubs fan]

tell lee he's benched until he hits a hr in batting practice if he doesn't waive his 10-5

 

this is easy.

 

I like the way you talk.

[pccubfan]

Levine is reporting that Lee will not waive his NTC.

 

Jerk.

 

I don't blame him. If I was in his position, I'd probably do the same. He already has a World Series ring, his family is settled here in the city, what's the incentive to agree to a trade?

 

I don't buy this. You're talking about two months playing a game when you are away from home half the time anyway. He would at least have a shot at playing in the playoffs this year. If Chicago is where he has to be he should look to re-sign with the Cubs in the offseason on a one year deal for $3 or $4 million.

[ctcf]

Levine is reporting that Lee will not waive his NTC.

 

Jerk.

 

I don't blame him. If I was in his position, I'd probably do the same. He already has a World Series ring, his family is settled here in the city, what's the incentive to agree to a trade?

 

I don't buy this. You're talking about two months playing a game when you are away from home half the time anyway. He would at least have a shot at playing in the playoffs this year. If Chicago is where he has to be he should look to re-sign with the Cubs in the offseason on a one year deal for $3 or $4 million.

 

Exactly. It wouldn't kill the guy to let the Cubs trade him. I certainly like him a bit less after this.

[SouthSideRyan]

Levine is reporting that Lee will not waive his NTC.

 

Jerk.

 

I don't blame him. If I was in his position, I'd probably do the same. He already has a World Series ring, his family is settled here in the city, what's the incentive to agree to a trade?

 

I don't buy this. You're talking about two months playing a game when you are away from home half the time anyway. He would at least have a shot at playing in the playoffs this year. If Chicago is where he has to be he should look to re-sign with the Cubs in the offseason on a one year deal for $3 or $4 million.

 

Exactly. It wouldn't kill the guy to let the Cubs trade him. I certainly like him a bit less after this.

 

It's a right he's earned, and if he'd legitamately rather have the month with his family(probably not) compared to chasing a ring then it's his perogative. If he'd legitamately rather play every day on a losing team than be a weak side platoon player on a winning team, that's his right too. The last 2 months of the season could make a huge difference in what kind of paycheck he's getting next year.

[Tracer Bullet]

Levine is reporting that Lee will not waive his NTC.

 

Jerk.

 

I don't blame him. If I was in his position, I'd probably do the same. He already has a World Series ring, his family is settled here in the city, what's the incentive to agree to a trade?

 

I don't buy this. You're talking about two months playing a game when you are away from home half the time anyway. He would at least have a shot at playing in the playoffs this year. If Chicago is where he has to be he should look to re-sign with the Cubs in the offseason on a one year deal for $3 or $4 million.

 

Exactly. It wouldn't kill the guy to let the Cubs trade him. I certainly like him a bit less after this.

 

you like a player on your team less for wanting to remain on your team? my mind is [expletive] blown.

[jersey cubs fan]

did posts get deleted from this thread?

[JonJayCutler]

This is probably a stupid question but I don't feel like looking it up: Do we get anything in return if/when Lee walks at the end of the year?

[dew1679666265]

This is probably a stupid question but I don't feel like looking it up: Do we get anything in return if/when Lee walks at the end of the year?

 

If we offer him arbitration and he refuses, then yes. Right now, he's pretty assuredly a Type B free agent (sandwich round pick only), but with a big second half he could become a Type A free agent (we get other team's first round pick so long as it's later than 15 plus we get a sandwich round pick).

[davearm2]

This is probably a stupid question but I don't feel like looking it up: Do we get anything in return if/when Lee walks at the end of the year?

Lee currently projects as a Type B FA, but he'd have to be offered arb (or sign elsewhere before the deadline to offer arb).

 

Hard to envision the Cubs offering him arb and locking into another year at $10M+.

[Guest]

This is probably a stupid question but I don't feel like looking it up: Do we get anything in return if/when Lee walks at the end of the year?

Only if we offer arbitration, which this pretty much guarantees we will not.

[CubColtPacer]

This is probably a stupid question but I don't feel like looking it up: Do we get anything in return if/when Lee walks at the end of the year?

 

Offering arbitration wouldn't work if Lee wants to stay in Chicago this bad.

 

So probably the only way they get something for Lee is if they tell him immediately they're going another direction and he signs in November with another team. Then the Cubs could offer him arbitration with no risk and get a pick back (Lee would be a type B). But I doubt Lee will lower his demands that quickly to get somebody to sign him.

[dew1679666265]

Levine is reporting that Lee will not waive his NTC.

 

 

[expletive] you Hendry

Umm, he's a 10 and 5 guy dude. He could block regardless of Hendry's doings.

 

+1

 

What was Hendry going to do? He had no leverage whatsoever.

 

Yeah, the NTCs are meaningless at this point for Lee and Ramirez (at least as far as the Cubs are concerned). Both players can block trades using their 10/5 rights.

[SouthSideRyan]

This is probably a stupid question but I don't feel like looking it up: Do we get anything in return if/when Lee walks at the end of the year?

 

The Cubs would only get compensation if they offered arbitration(and Lee qualified for compensation) And if the Cubs offered Lee arbitration, I might finally quit

[Guest]

At this point, we have to hope that Lee does well enough the rest of the season to be the very highest rated B player out there. That way he'll be good enough to interest a team in signing him quickly, but will still be only type B so they can sign him quickly without losing one of their picks.

[jersey cubs fan]

At this point, we have to hope that Lee does well enough the rest of the season to be the very highest rated B player out there. That way he'll be good enough to interest a team in signing him quickly, but will still be only type B so they can sign him quickly without losing one of their picks.

 

I'm just hoping they cut all ties. Don't care about potential picks.

[champaignchris]

Just to throw this out there...

 

The Cubs are 9.5 games out of the playoffs. The Angels are 8.5 games out of the playoffs. He has essentially the same chance of making the postseason on either team.

 

With that being the case, why would he approve the trade?

 

I suspect the metric might be changed if the proposed trade was to the Giants, Rays or someone else solidly in the playoff hunt.

[ctcf]

you like a player on your team less for wanting to remain on your team? my mind is [expletive] blown.

 

Really? I highly doubt Lee is sitting there thinking "golly gee, being a Cub is the bestest thing ever, I can't imagine ever not being one!"

[sherwood921]

Just to throw this out there...

 

The Cubs are 9.5 games out of the playoffs. The Angels are 8.5 games out of the playoffs. He has essentially the same chance of making the postseason on either team.

 

With that being the case, why would he approve the trade?

 

I suspect the metric might be changed if the proposed trade was to the Giants, Rays or someone else solidly in the playoff hunt.

 

Great point. Didn't realize the Angels had struggled so much.

[SouthSideRyan]

He blocked a trade to the team the Angels are chasing too.

[SCCubbieFAN]

considering Lee is still in his mid 30s age-wise, I would think he'd be more inclined to be seeking 1 more multi-year deal on the FA market instead of accepting arbi from the Cubs to play for another year. If he accepts arbi and has another mediocre year, he can just about kiss goodbye any chance at another multi-year deal. But being just 1 year removed from a better season than this one, more teams may think he can still produce fairly well and offer a 2-4 year deal. thoughts?

[Wolfgangbucks]

He's not leaving until he gets another chance to KICK Zambrano's butt............

[champaignchris]

He blocked a trade to the team the Angels are chasing too.

 

According to this ESPN article: http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5417150

 

It was incorrectly reported earlier Wednesday that the Rangers had also proposed a trade for Lee.

[jersey cubs fan]

considering Lee is still in his mid 30s age-wise, I would think he'd be more inclined to be seeking 1 more multi-year deal on the FA market instead of accepting arbi from the Cubs to play for another year. If he accepts arbi and has another mediocre year, he can just about kiss goodbye any chance at another multi-year deal. But being just 1 year removed from a better season than this one, more teams may think he can still produce fairly well and offer a 2-4 year deal. thoughts?

 

Teams have not shown a great willingness to hand out multi year contracts to old players (and Lee is old) coming off bad seasons. Sure he's probably love a 4 year contract. I don't see anybody giving him one.