Re: NHL (Blackhawks included) offseason thread

[Magnetic Curses]

GERMANS BOMB PEARL HARBOR!

[kujay]

Well it was a strange route to get there, but ESPN is saying Kovalchuk is staying in Jersey.

 

Good. Keep him in the east. I would not have liked to deal with the Kings if he was part of that team.

 

Oh, and I got my championship DVD today. My plans for tonight are set.

[jersey cubs fan]

Kovalchuk has signed a 17-year deal which could top $150 million, a source told ESPN.com's Scott Burnside.

[kujay]

And people thought the Hawks might get sanctioned by the league for Keith's or Hossa's deals.

 

Holy [expletive].

[Banedon]

Why is it that hockey is the one that does crazy deals like that? I think the longest non-hockey deal I can think of is 10 years for Mike Hampton, yes?

[Banedon]

Kovalchuk has signed a 17-year deal which could top $150 million, a source told ESPN.com's Scott Burnside.

 

Have we not learned anything from the disaster that was Vince McMahon's 20-year contract with Brett "The Hitman" Hart?

 

:lol:

[jersey cubs fan]

Why is it that hockey is the one that does crazy deals like that? I think the longest non-hockey deal I can think of is 10 years for Mike Hampton, yes?

 

I think it has to do with the combination of hockey players being able to play for a long time, the early age that guys can get to free agency, and how the cap system works. Plus, as a more unstable sport than NFL or MLB, there is some reason for people to take the risk out of their future. He's 27, Keith was 26 when he signed. In the NFL careers can end by 28, and in MLB, guys often come up around 23-24 and are under team control for 6 years, so they are rarely free agents by 26/27.

 

Then again, ARod signed 2 10 year contracts, Jeter's is 10. There have been lots of guys in the 7-8 year range. And this 17 year one is still long for NHL standards.

 

McNabb signed a 12 year deal at one point.

Edited July 19, 2010 by jersey cubs fan

[SpongeWorthy]

Why is it that hockey is the one that does crazy deals like that? I think the longest non-hockey deal I can think of is 10 years for Mike Hampton, yes?

 

Magic Johnson signed a 25 year/$25 million deal back in the day.

[Banedon]

Why is it that hockey is the one that does crazy deals like that? I think the longest non-hockey deal I can think of is 10 years for Mike Hampton, yes?

 

Magic Johnson signed a 25 year/$25 million deal back in the day.

 

Huh...I never knew that. I was like 6 years old at that point, but still, you'd think I'd have heard of it.

[Post Count Padder]

It's not gonna be $150 mil. ESPN changed its report. It'll likely be 17 years, $100 million and front loaded. It'll lesson the cap hit and makes it so he won't be earning $7 million a year when he's 40.

 

I'm excited. But now I wonder what Lou does to dump salary. I'm think he ships off Rolston, White and Zubrus for a bag of pucks. Rolston isn't good anymore and is overpaid. White is basically useless. And Zubrus is a solid defensive forward but is making too much.

[Magnetic Curses]

no one cares about the devils, just the crazy deal that kovalchuk signed.

[Post Count Padder]

no one cares about the devils, just the crazy deal that kovalchuk signed.

If you say so.

 

Looks like the deal is $102 million over 17 years and only $1 million per year for the last seven. That makes for a cap hit of only $6 million a year. Kovalchuk gets his $100 million and the Devils get him at an affordable rate.

[Post Count Padder]

Also, Flyers get owned. Gagne is still a good player. Solid deal for the Lightning.

[Magnetic Curses]

no one cares about the lightning or the flyers, either.

[sneakypower]

Gagne: "I was willing to waive my no-trade clause only for Tampa Bay, not for other teams"

 

that's why they got (ugh) "owned"

[TruffleShuffle]

it's a salary dump. we were $2.5m over the cap. there's no "owning" involved in this trade.

 

the nhl really needs to fix that loophole in the salary cap - these 12/15/17 year deals are absurd.

Edited July 20, 2010 by TruffleShuffle

[17 Seconds]

stevie y is making some things happen in tampa

[UMFan83]

it's a salary dump. we were $2.5m over the cap. there's no "owning" involved in this trade.

 

the nhl really needs to fix that loophole in the salary cap - these 12/15/17 year deals are absurd.

 

Not that I don't respect what he's done, but if we didn't use those loopholes for Hossas contract, we could have saved ourselves from trading Buff, Versteeg, Ladd, and Co. for Hossa.

 

Then again, I probably am not excitedly waiting for my Stanley Cup Champions Blu Ray tomorrow if that happens.

[TruffleShuffle]

so in reality, this is a 10 year, $99m deal. he's making less than a million per year the last 7 years of the deal, when he's either unlikely to be playing or will be going back to russia for his twilight years. they should've just made it a 50 year, $110 million deal.

[Banedon]

Whatever Blackhawks GM Stan Bowman comes up with as he continues negotiations with goalie Antti Niemi, it won't include trading veteran forward Patrick Sharp. ""I told (Sharp) he can relax, he's not going anywhere."

[kujay]

Yeah, that and more here including Hendry being signed soon:

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/2513110,CST-SPT-hawknt20.article

 

I don't know what their "ideas" are, but if they only need to clear a million or so to sign Niemi, it doesn't have to be Sharp who goes. And yes, of course, Campbell doesn't want to go anywhere. I don't blame him though -- it's not his fault that Tallon gave him a dumb contract.

[Magnetic Curses]

if they could have traded campbell, they would have done it by now. the problem being that anyone who'd be willing to take him to get to the cap floor is terrible and he would never accept a trade to.

 

but it would be painful to trade him now after we traded everyone else. campbell is not a dead-weight contract. he's a very good player worth about half what he's making. those bonuses hurt more than campbell's contract did, i wish we could find someone willing to pay half his deal in exchange for the opportunity to touch the cup.

[kujay]

By the way, that championship DVD was a little underwhelming. I think I'll be checking out the bigger multi-disc set that is coming out later this fall. The main "documentary" was about 62 minutes. It was nice to relive the whole season, it just didn't seem to add much in the way of never-before-seen footage, that sort of thing. It was just a bland chronicle of events. They need to get Steve Sabol on the case.

[brinoch]

By the way, that championship DVD was a little underwhelming. I think I'll be checking out the bigger multi-disc set that is coming out later this fall. The main "documentary" was about 62 minutes. It was nice to relive the whole season, it just didn't seem to add much in the way of never-before-seen footage, that sort of thing. It was just a bland chronicle of events. They need to get Steve Sabol on the case.

 

It was mildly disappointing. I thought there would be more highlights of the various series, important goals, and such. Like Game 5 against Nashville -- how about the whole play to win in OT?

 

The extra were pretty nice though.

[kujay]

By the way, that championship DVD was a little underwhelming. I think I'll be checking out the bigger multi-disc set that is coming out later this fall. The main "documentary" was about 62 minutes. It was nice to relive the whole season, it just didn't seem to add much in the way of never-before-seen footage, that sort of thing. It was just a bland chronicle of events. They need to get Steve Sabol on the case.

 

It was mildly disappointing. I thought there would be more highlights of the various series, important goals, and such. Like Game 5 against Nashville -- how about the whole play to win in OT?

 

The extra were pretty nice though.

 

I recorded that whole game when it aired on NHL Network this past weekend. I hadn't really seen it much. We were there, and that afternoon back here in St. Louis there were bad storms that knocked our satellite out. So I sat and watched that last goal about 20 times. Definitely the biggest moment of the whole run.