Re: NHL (Blackhawks included) offseason thread

[Magnetic Curses]

Jonathan Toews — $6,300,000

Patrick Kane — $6,300,000

Marian Hossa — $5,275,000

Patrick Sharp — $3,900,000

Dave Bolland — $3,375,000

Tomas Kopecky — $1,200,000

Kyle Beach ($325,000) $1,170,833

Troy Brouwer — $1,025,000

Jeremy Morin ($212,500) $977,500

Viktor Stalberg ($65,000) $850,000

Marcus Kruger — $735,000

Mathis Olimb — $600,000

DEFENSEMEN

Brian Campbell — $7,142,875

Duncan Keith — $5,538,462

* Niklas Hjalmarsson — $3,500,000

Brent Seabrook — $3,500,000

* Jordan Hendry — $625,000

John Scott — $512,500

Jassen Cullimore — $500,000

GOALTENDERS

* Antti Niemi — $2,200,000

Hannu Toivonen — $550,000

BUYOUTS

NONE

LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS

NONE

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY

$4,157,753

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS

ROSTER SIZE 21

SALARY CAP $59,400,000

PAYROLL $59,934,923

BONUSES $602,500

CAP SPACE $67,577

 

kane/toews/brouwer

hossa/sharp/beach

kopecky/bolland/stalberg

kruger/olimb/morin

 

keith/seabrook

campbell/hammer

scott/hendry

cullimore

 

niemi

toivonen

 

and there it is.

[Magnetic Curses]

morin's pretty good, eh? anybody know anything about him? he can score the puck, from what i've read and seen.

[17 Seconds]

no way niemi ends up being had at 2.2. he's going to get paid

[Magnetic Curses]

maybe turco then.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I think people might be overstating what Niemi will get in arbitration.

[Banedon]

if a hawks fan continued with the same level of skepticism regarding hawks success or future hawks success as you, i would pretty much do the same thing to them.

 

Because if you watch Sulley's posts, you'd know....Sulley is never, ever negative about the hometown teams...

[Magnetic Curses]

if a hawks fan continued with the same level of skepticism regarding hawks success or future hawks success as you, i would pretty much do the same thing to them.

 

Because if you watch Sulley's posts, you'd know....Sulley is never, ever negative about the hometown teams...

 

way different

[sherwood921]

I think San Jose is actually going after either Nik or Niemi here. It's win-win. If the Hawks don't match, they get a very good young defensemen at about market value. They lose two late round picks, not a huge loss.

 

If the Hawks match, they likely can't afford Niemi and he becomes a UFA when there are really no other teams out there looking for a starting goaltender anymore. Philly needs to shed cap space, and I have no doubt San Jose would be the favorites to sign him (even though they claim to be fine with Nittymaki as their starter).

 

That said, I would love to see Niemi back on a cheap 1 year deal with a gentleman's agreement that he will cash in after another good year...however unlikely that may be.

 

the sharks already signed a finnish goaltender to start for them. niemi would be pointless since he's the same exact goalie.

 

It makes no difference where a goaltender is from or what style he plays when looking at the tandem. It's not like they're playing at the same time where their styles would make any difference. Wilson said they signed him to start, but I have no doubt he'd make a run at Niemi if we can't pay his awarded salary. Do you think Wilson is going to come out and say "We like Nittymaki, but we also are planning on screwing over Chicago to get Hjalmarsson or Niemi. If we don't, he'll be our starter. Otherwise, we're only paying him $2mil and he'd be a great backup to Niemi, the guy who stoned us in the playoffs." ?

[Old Style]

Hurry up and match the Hammer offer already.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Hurry up and match the Hammer offer already.

 

Yeah, the longer this goes the more nervous I'm getting.

[kujay]

Hurry up and match the Hammer offer already.

 

Yeah, the longer this goes the more nervous I'm getting.

 

This FO has been pretty flawless so far -- I have faith they know what they are doing. But letting Niemi go makes me very nervous. Not as much as letting Hammer go, of course, but still.

[Flames24Rulz]

I don't understand what the wait is for.

[17 Seconds]

If we lose Hjalmarsson I don't think we're even a lock for the playoffs

[Magnetic Curses]

i saw this article on second city hockey that said we should let toftbo walk because we have a lot of projected upper-pairing defensemen in the system and bowman needs to send a message to agents like zito that we aren't going to let them hold us hostage.

 

but here's what i don't get, our system produced hjalmarsson, he is 23 years old. is the author insinuating that we should bring up our defensemen for a couple of seasons and then let them walk when they're rfa every single time? we can't do that. when you get one like him, you sign him. you let the other, more replaceable players walk or you send them away for draft picks, but you don't let a guy like that go to a conference rival.

 

if bowman lets him go to the sharks it would be a terrible move that weakens us considerably and strengthens the sharks considerably. if it were an eastern conference team, i could see letting him go, but not like this and not to a team we just played in the wcf.

 

although i am hopeful that bowman is just [expletive] with wilson right now.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't see the need to announce a decision until it is time to announce a decision.

[Magnetic Curses]

I don't see the need to announce a decision until it is time to announce a decision.

 

yeah bowman has said this type of thing doesn't happen, i don't see him letting it happen, either. there is more than enough room to sign hammer at this point.

[Magnetic Curses]

Jonathan Toews — $6,300,000

Patrick Kane — $6,300,000

Marian Hossa — $5,275,000

Patrick Sharp — $3,900,000

Dave Bolland — $3,375,000

Tomas Kopecky — $1,200,000

Kyle Beach ($325,000) $1,170,833

Troy Brouwer — $1,025,000

Viktor Stalberg ($65,000) $850,000

Marcus Kruger — $735,000

Mathis Olimb — $600,000

Jake Dowell — $525,000

DEFENSEMEN

Brian Campbell — $7,142,875

Duncan Keith — $5,538,462

* Niklas Hjalmarsson — $3,500,000

Brent Seabrook — $3,500,000

Ivan Vishnevskiy — $821,667

John Scott — $512,500

Jassen Cullimore — $500,000

GOALTENDERS

* Marty Turco — $2,300,000

Hannu Toivonen — $550,000

BUYOUTS

NONE

LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS

NONE

CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY

$4,157,753

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS

ROSTER SIZE 21

SALARY CAP $59,400,000

PAYROLL $59,779,090

BONUSES $390,000

CAP SPACE $10,910

 

this is my latest one. we have to trade reasoner for a pick or something, and allows us to bring up kyle beach to play the buff role. but this roster operates on the theory that scott can be both the 7th defenseman and 13th forward.

 

kane/toews/brouwer

hossa/sharp/kopecky

stalberg/bolland/beach

dowell/olimb/kruger

scott

 

we don't lose much off our top 3 lines, and i like the idea of hossa and kopecky getting more ice time together.

[Old Style]

Turco at $2.3MM? Is that what he is expected to get? What are you projecting for Niemi?

[Magnetic Curses]

Turco at $2.3MM? Is that what he is expected to get? What are you projecting for Niemi?

 

i'm just putting all of the extra money into a goalie, pretty much, i figure it will take all that we've got left over. i hope niemi gets around 2 mil but i'm not holding my breath.

[Butterscup1679666578]

From the Blackhawks twitter:

 

Breaking news: Blackhawks WILL match San Jose's offer sheet for Hjalmarsson.

[Butterscup1679666578]

They also said:

 

GM Stan Bowman said not an either/or with Hammer and Niemi. Negotiations continue with Antti.

[Banedon]

They also said:

 

GM Stan Bowman said not an either/or with Hammer and Niemi. Negotiations continue with Antti.

 

Uh huh...he also said they wouldn't need to make more trades...

 

Super happy about Hammer though...

[17 Seconds]

I'm still dumb with contracts. So if we matched him, does that mean he's ours? Or can other teams still sign him to offer sheets?

[kujay]

From the Blackhawks twitter:

 

Breaking news: Blackhawks WILL match San Jose's offer sheet for Hjalmarsson.

 

That's good news.

 

Under his circumstances, I don't begrudge Niemi trying to get as much as he can with this contract. This is his chance -- he will probably never hold better cards than he does right now. But I still hope we can keep him at a reasonable number.

[rawaction]

I'm still dumb with contracts. So if we matched him, does that mean he's ours? Or can other teams still sign him to offer sheets?

 

If it's like other sports, the Blackhawks matched so they have to pay him whatever the Sharks offered him and he is still a Blackhawk.