Bulls Offseason Thread

[RedFlash]

Holy hell would I love to see Kentucky fans' reactions if Cal leaves.

 

It would certainly lock in his reputation as the Nick Saban of college basketball.

 

Apples to oranges.

 

I would hate it for Kentucky if Calipari leaves and Kentucky faces potential sanctions.

Edited May 5, 2010 by RedFlash

[Ding Dong Johnson]

oh dear

[UMFan83]

Holy hell would I love to see Kentucky fans' reactions if Cal leaves.

 

It would certainly lock in his reputation as the Nick Saban of college basketball.

 

Apples to oranges.

 

I would hate it for Kentucky if Calipari leaves and Kentucky faces potential sanctions.

 

Says the Alabama fan

[Flames24Rulz]

And this new contract extension is strictly a PR move by Kentucky. There's nothing that will prevent him from taking another job.

 

I thought about that last night when I saw the report. Even if he agrees to a re-structured deal with UK, what's stopping him from leaving to go towards another job? As long as you outbid UK, you'll end up with Calipari.

[Guest]

Holy hell would I love to see Kentucky fans' reactions if Cal leaves.

 

It would certainly lock in his reputation as the Nick Saban of college basketball.

 

Apples to oranges.

 

I would hate it for Kentucky if Calipari leaves and Kentucky faces potential sanctions.

 

I will gave Saban credit for coaching in conferences where other good teams actually exist.

[RedFlash]

Holy hell would I love to see Kentucky fans' reactions if Cal leaves.

 

It would certainly lock in his reputation as the Nick Saban of college basketball.

 

Apples to oranges.

 

I would hate it for Kentucky if Calipari leaves and Kentucky faces potential sanctions.

 

I will gave Saban credit for coaching in conferences where other good teams actually exist.

 

The man can recruit players, then man can coach up those same players(not all coaches can recruit AND coach up players, just ask Les Miles), and the man can find legitimate good assistant coaches. Most important he wins the games he is paid to win, unlike Calipari.

 

So again, apples to oranges...one man is worth the dough, the other....not so much.

[Derwood]

isn't he jpaid to win ALL the games?

[Keener98]

Holy hell would I love to see Kentucky fans' reactions if Cal leaves.

 

It would certainly lock in his reputation as the Nick Saban of college basketball.

 

Apples to oranges.

 

I would hate it for Kentucky if Calipari leaves and Kentucky faces potential sanctions.

 

I will gave Saban credit for coaching in conferences where other good teams actually exist.

 

The man can recruit players, then man can coach up those same players(not all coaches can recruit AND coach up players, just ask Les Miles), and the man can find legitimate good assistant coaches. Most important he wins the games he is paid to win, unlike Calipari.

 

So again, apples to oranges...one man is worth the dough, the other....not so much.

 

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=290020333

[Derwood]

 

It would certainly lock in his reputation as the Nick Saban of college basketball.

 

Apples to oranges.

 

I would hate it for Kentucky if Calipari leaves and Kentucky faces potential sanctions.

 

I will gave Saban credit for coaching in conferences where other good teams actually exist.

 

The man can recruit players, then man can coach up those same players(not all coaches can recruit AND coach up players, just ask Les Miles), and the man can find legitimate good assistant coaches. Most important he wins the games he is paid to win, unlike Calipari.

 

So again, apples to oranges...one man is worth the dough, the other....not so much.

 

http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=290020333

 

He wasn't paid to win that one

[Wilson A2000]

Holy hell would I love to see Kentucky fans' reactions if Cal leaves.

 

It would certainly lock in his reputation as the Nick Saban of college basketball.

 

"He might be an idiot, but he's our idiot." Especially so if Calipari brings LeBron here and wins a championship(s).

[RedFlash]

"He might be an idiot, but he's our idiot." Especially so if Calipari brings LeBron here and wins a championship(s).

 

All Calipari would be in Chicago is a figurehead, just like Mike Brown is in Cleveland. We all know who coaches the Cavs and it ain't Brown. So why are people worrying about Calipari? All the offense would be is to run through LBJ first, Rose second, LBJ third, and Rose 4th. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

[Wilson A2000]

"He might be an idiot, but he's our idiot." Especially so if Calipari brings LeBron here and wins a championship(s).

 

All Calipari would be in Chicago is a figurehead, just like Mike Brown is in Cleveland. We all know who coaches the Cavs and it ain't Brown. So why are people worrying about Calipari? All the offense would be is to run through LBJ first, Rose second, LBJ third, and Rose 4th. Doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

 

We are worrying about Calipari because he might bring a star with him. I don't think anyone really wants him just for his X/O abilities. But remember Phil was not a figurehead. He helped incorporate the triangle. Stars don't absolutely dictate the type of play on the court. Coaches certainly influence.

[SouthSideRyan]

Calipari as coach without getting Lebron to come with might get me banned.

[Sammy Sofa]

I don't know squat about college basketball, so what's the deal with this guy?

[Flames24Rulz]

I don't know squat about college basketball, so what's the deal with this guy?

 

He's won everywhere he has went, but he's been caught cheating twice; once with UMass back in 1995 and of course with Memphis a couple of years ago.

 

He's definitely one of the shadiest guys in the game. I don't hate him as much as many people do simply because I believe a ton of coaches in college basketball cheat. Of course, absolutely none of that matters in the NBA. His raw coaching skills aren't the best in the world, but I don't think that would matter too much if he could bring in one of the big three free agents this season.

[David]

Screw it... it's worth the gamble to me. I certainly don't think hiring him will drive any major FA's away... so if it can help us out there, just do it. He can always be fired and the players, obviously, kept if he sucks... or the talent will make his coaching a non-issue.

 

You know he'll be pitching Chicago hard to LeBron if he does come here.

[David]

http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo?site=newsday&view=page3&feed:a=newsday_5min&feed:c=sports&feed:i=1.1896352&nopaging=1

 

But how does this impact the Knicks? Because it could be a direct hit that torpedoes their already slim hopes to land LeBron James.

 

First of all, Calipari would love to be reunited with Derrick Rose and the Bulls have a very talented young big in Joakim Noah. His spread offense would be perfect for that personnel. But that isn't what has the Knicks so alarmed.

 

It really is the connection Calipari has with LeBron, through, of course, the ubiquitous William "Worldwide Wes" Wesley. This past summer, in fact, LeBron met with Calipari to talk about his system and basketball philosophies.

 

At first glance, that could be considered a threat to Mike Brown, especially if the Cavaliers fail to reach the NBA Finals once again this season. Supposing LeBron (through Wes, of course) makes it known he'd prefer Cal over Brown, the Cavs certainly would have to react before July 1.

 

And perhaps this is why LeBron was so notably non-committal on Sunday in Akron , when he won his second MVP award and sidestepped questions about his future.

 

But if the Bulls act now and Jerry Reinsdorf lays out the money he wouldn't pay for Mike D'Antoni two years ago, Calipari could already be in Chicago when (or if) LeBron finds himself storming off a court in either Boston or Orlando as a result of another premature exit from the playoffs.

 

Perhaps then LeBron's New York State of Mind reconsiders his options and begins to think that maybe Chicago is his kinda town.

 

For the Knicks, this summer comes with the anxiety of being unpredictable. But what would hurt more than not being able to lure LeBron to New York is if he still does decide to leave Cleveland and yet is lured somewhere else. Especially Chicago.

 

You could argue that the Bulls make no sense for a player like LeBron, who would always be in the shadow of Michael Jordan's statue. Then again, LeBron, who grew up a Bulls fan and idolized Jordan, might enjoy re-writing the record books there.

 

And with young guns such as Derrick Rose and Joakim Noah already in place, the Bulls would certainly have championship-caliber talent.

 

That's just what Knicks fans want to see: the Bulls once again with the best player in the league surrounded with talent.

 

Meanwhile, have you seen Joe Johnson in the post-season?

[Guest]

I don't know squat about college basketball, so what's the deal with this guy?

 

He's a sleazy mercenary who recruits very well and then out athletes everyone in whatever terrible conference he happens to be coaching at the time. He went 72-112 as the coach of the Nets about 15 years ago.

[UMFan83]

Of course in his 3.5 seasons in NJ, he did managed to make the playoffs and finish with a winning record coaching a team whose top players were Keith Van Horn, Sam Cassell, Kendall Gill, Jayson Williams and Kerry Kittles.

[David]

Of course in his 3.5 seasons in NJ, he did managed to make the playoffs and finish with a winning record coaching a team whose top players were Keith Van Horn, Sam Cassell, Kendall Gill, Jayson Williams and Kerry Kittles.

 

And gave the 97 Bulls a real fight in the first couple games of that series, IIRC.

[nick23]

I wanna say the following season they had some key injuries and got off to a horrible start and they fired him faily quickly.

[David]

Sorry, it was the 98 Bulls...

 

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1998_games.html

 

First game went to OT... Second game was a 5 pt Bulls win in regulation.

 

 

I remember those games being much too hard.

[SpongeWorthy]

Why is Calipari considered such a bad in game coach? Or is it just part of the hysteric over reaction by the NCAA moralists here?

[Soul]

I don't buy that a player of Lebron's calibre would "always live in the shadow of Jordan's statue" or whatever.

 

Lebron in Chicago would be big enough to warrant another statue, right next to Jordan's.

 

I think that's a false negative. Lebron's not going to feel like he can't escape the ghost of a superstar from 10+ years ago. He's too big for that.

[David]

I don't buy that a player of Lebron's calibre would "always live in the shadow of Jordan's statue" or whatever.

 

Lebron in Chicago would be big enough to warrant another statue, right next to Jordan's.

 

I think that's a false negative. Lebron's not going to feel like he can't escape the ghost of a superstar from 10+ years ago. He's too big for that.

 

I'm not sure how you interpreted it, either way, but I don't think the writer does, either... He was just acknowledging a counterargument and dispelling it.