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Adam Burish after the game last night....

 

"I think Chris Pronger is the biggest idiot in the League. I can't stand the guy one bit. I hope I never get to see him again. And if I see him again, I may have to punch him."

 

And then on the infamous "Chrissy Pronger" newspaper poster, with the Flyers defenseman in a skirt:

 

"That's perfect. He should have worn that out here tonight. He was terrible."

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sure easy to say [expletive] like that after the season is over

 

true or not, what a dumb thing to say

 

Well especially considering the guy who said it was a healthy scratch for the final couple of games.

 

It's definitely a dumb thing to say considering the source and considering Pronger's going to be a Hall of Famer. Oh well.

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"(Kane) walked out of the corner and there was a guy driving to the net," said Leighton, who stopped 37 of 41 shots over 64 minutes and six seconds. "I thought Kane was going to pass it. He threw it at my feet and it went underneath me."

 

That actually makes some sense...cuz who would've thought you could put that puck on goal from that angle?

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Heard the bobby Hull interview on NPR and he was saying he thought after 61 he would win several more Stanely Cups. there was some cracking in his voice he was truly elated.

 

If this team didn't win it would have been an epic upset for as many olympians as the Hawks had

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Toews gets a $1.3M bonus for winning the Conn Smythe. Since the Hawks are at cap for this year, it counts against next year's cap.
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Toews gets a $1.3M bonus for winning the Conn Smythe. Since the Hawks are at cap for this year, it counts against next year's cap.

 

Well there goes the relief that we had for the cap going up next year.

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Heard the bobby Hull interview on NPR and he was saying he thought after 61 he would win several more Stanely Cups. there was some cracking in his voice he was truly elated.

 

If this team didn't win it would have been an epic upset for as many olympians as the Hawks had

 

It would not have been an epic upset.

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Toews gets a $1.3M bonus for winning the Conn Smythe. Since the Hawks are at cap for this year, it counts against next year's cap.

 

You gotta be [expletive] me? How has no one thought of this/mentioned this before?

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Toews gets a $1.3M bonus for winning the Conn Smythe. Since the Hawks are at cap for this year, it counts against next year's cap.

 

You gotta be [expletive] me? How has no one thought of this/mentioned this before?

 

From http://www.nhlscap.com/cap_faq.htm:

 

BONUSES

 

With a few exceptions, players may only earn roster, reporting, or signing bonuses under the new CBA. Entry-level players may earn bonuses for certain awards and performance (Exhibit 5) bonuses. (Page of those bonuses coming shortly.) Players 35 and older as of June 30 who sign a contract for the immediately following League Year may earn performance bonuses, as well as players with 400 or more games played and who spent 100 or more days on injured reserve in the last year of their most recent contract; however, in these two cases, performance bonuses are only allowed for 1-year contracts. If players in these two categories sign a multi-year contract, they cannot earn performance bonuses.

 

When teams calculate how much room they have under the cap to add players, any potential bonuses that a player can earn must be included in the player's cap count. For 2005-06 through 2007-08, teams could exceed the Upper Limit by up to 7.5% [the "Performance Bonus Cushion"] in order to pay such bonuses (for 2007-08, teams could effectively have an Upper Limit of $54,072,500) with the provision that any team doing this would have its Upper Limit reduced for the following season by the amount it exceeds the current year's Upper Limit. If the bonus is not paid, no penalty is imposed. [As mentioned above, the Performance Bonus Cushion is not available in 2008-09.] As the season progresses, if a player becomes ineligible for a bonus it will come off the player's cap count and that amount will become available to the team - but only for that season.

 

For bonuses contracted before the new CBA that are to be paid under the new CBA, those bonuses do not count toward the team's salary cap and are not considered in the calculation of a player's cap number. Only bonuses contracted under the new CBA will count toward the team's salary cap and will be considered in the calculation of a player's cap number.

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Toews gets a $1.3M bonus for winning the Conn Smythe. Since the Hawks are at cap for this year, it counts against next year's cap.

 

Well there goes the relief that we had for the cap going up next year.

 

That really really hurts us.

 

I think we were like 7 million over next years cap with only 13 players signed. Now we're like 8.3 million over, so we have to get rid of 8.3 million, in addition to clearing more space to fill up the team.

 

That 1.3 million might be the difference between someone like Sharp or Buff or Versteeg being on next years team.

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I'm not going to be concerned. Guys are going to be tradable for value. Being a stanley cup winner, with the former GM now in florida and potentially 2 assistant coaches working elsewhere, they can make this work.
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I mean it's good for us long term to face this head on. As long as we trust the org's scouting, being able to get rid a few of these guys for prospects/picks will only help us reload the team in the long run.

 

And next year, guys like Beach should be able to give the Hawks a lot of what they are losing. I don't think it's crazy to suggest they can make a run next year. But we probably have less room for error than we did this year. I also worry whenever a young core achieves the highest goal so early in their careers in terms of a potential hangover effect.

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Toews gets a $1.3M bonus for winning the Conn Smythe. Since the Hawks are at cap for this year, it counts against next year's cap.

 

You gotta be [expletive] me? How has no one thought of this/mentioned this before?

 

We talked about the bonus cushion before.

 

Where did we hear $1.3 million from?

 

http://www.nhlscap.com/Exhibit5.htm

League Awards: Teams may only negotiate bonuses for the Hart, Richard, Vezina, Jennings, Norris, Conn Smythe, and Selke awards; any award that the league creates in the future that is similar in stature may also be considered.

 

HART, NORRIS, VEZINA, SELKE, RICHARD

Winner: $250,000

2nd: $200,000

3rd: $150,000

4th: $100,000

5th: $50,000

 

LADY BYNG

Winner: $150,000

2nd: $100,000

3rd: $50,000

 

JENNINGS: $50,000 to winner - if there are multiple winners, each player receives a pro-rata share

 

CALDER

Winner: $212,500

2nd: $150,000

3rd: $100,000

 

NHL ALL-STAR TEAM

1st Team: $100,000

2nd Team: $50,000

 

CONN SMYTHE: $250,000 to winner

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