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Nothing Colvin has done in the minors makes me think he could be a starting corner outfielder in the majors.

Exactly. If Colvin is starting, we better have cut Soriano and gotten someone really good for LF

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Wouldn't it make a lot more sense for both teams if the Cubs traded Colvin to the Nats instead of Fukudome? The Nats are young and rebuilding. Colvin fits in with their long term plans a lot more than Fukudome. The Nats already have the sage veteran leadership with Dunn and Pudge.

 

I wouldn't mind selling high on Colvin.

 

Nobody is going to give you anything for Colvin because he had a great spring.

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Nothing Colvin has done in the minors makes me think he could be a starting corner outfielder in the majors.

 

He might end up being a starting corner OF in the majors, but first he would need to prove it before trading our starters to give him the job.

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Moving Fukudome and eating his salary would be completely and totally stupid. Is he a bit overpaid? Yes. But he doesn't suck that bad offensively, and he's a plus defender in right field. I'd keep him around at least until his contract is up. Out of our three starting outfielders, Fukudome is the least of my worries as far as offensive production. I'm more concerned about Soriano continuing to decline, and Byrd not being able to produce anything close to his Texas numbers.
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Moving Fukudome and eating his salary would be completely and totally stupid. Is he a bit overpaid? Yes. But he doesn't suck that bad offensively, and he's a plus defender in right field. I'd keep him around at least until his contract is up. Out of our three starting outfielders, Fukudome is the least of my worries as far as offensive production. I'm more concerned about Soriano continuing to decline, and Byrd not being able to produce anything close to his Texas numbers.

 

Eating his salary and getting very little in return would be stupid. But if they have to eat his salary to get some really good prospect in return, that could be enticing.

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Nothing Colvin has done in the minors makes me think he could be a starting corner outfielder in the majors.

 

He might end up being a starting corner OF in the majors, but first he would need to prove it before trading our starters to give him the job.

 

Explain to me how you can prove you are a starting corner OF in the majors when you are always on the bench because of someone else having the starting job?

 

Like I said before posts like this are dumb. There is no way to know if someone is good enough to be a starter unless you have him start a significant period of time. Some guys do great in small doses in platoons but then wear down and suck when playing everyday. Some guys are the opposite. Either way you don't know what will happen until he starts.

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Nothing Colvin has done in the minors makes me think he could be a starting corner outfielder in the majors.

 

He might end up being a starting corner OF in the majors, but first he would need to prove it before trading our starters to give him the job.

 

Explain to me how you can prove you are a starting corner OF in the majors when you are always on the bench because of someone else having the starting job?

 

Like I said before posts like this are dumb. There is no way to know if someone is good enough to be a starter unless you have him start a significant period of time. Some guys do great in small doses in platoons but then wear down and suck when playing everyday. Some guys are the opposite. Either way you don't know what will happen until he starts.

 

But we do know that Colvin has been a professional baseball player for a while now and hasn't come close to showing he deserves a chance to start in the majors as a corner OF.

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Nothing Colvin has done in the minors makes me think he could be a starting corner outfielder in the majors.

 

He might end up being a starting corner OF in the majors, but first he would need to prove it before trading our starters to give him the job.

 

Explain to me how you can prove you are a starting corner OF in the majors when you are always on the bench because of someone else having the starting job?

 

Like I said before posts like this are dumb. There is no way to know if someone is good enough to be a starter unless you have him start a significant period of time. Some guys do great in small doses in platoons but then wear down and suck when playing everyday. Some guys are the opposite. Either way you don't know what will happen until he starts.

 

But we do know that Colvin has been a professional baseball player for a while now and hasn't come close to showing he deserves a chance to start in the majors as a corner OF.

 

Agreed. Like I said before I am only OK with trading Fukudome if almost all his salary is taken by the other team. In that scenario we give Colvin a couple weeks to start to see what he can do and then if he struggling we replace him when Nady gets back. I am OK with doing that if it frees up $10+ million.

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Agreed. Like I said before I am only OK with trading Fukudome if almost all his salary is taken by the other team. In that scenario we give Colvin a couple weeks to start to see what he can do and then if he struggling we replace him when Nady gets back. I am OK with doing that if it frees up $10+ million.

 

So you think it's dumb to wait for Colvin to prove he can handle the job before trading away Fukudome, but it makes sense to give him the job for a couple weeks and then decide if he's earned it?

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Like I said before posts like this are dumb. There is no way to know if someone is good enough to be a starter unless you have him start a significant period of time. Some guys do great in small doses in platoons but then wear down and suck when playing everyday. Some guys are the opposite. Either way you don't know what will happen until he starts.

 

Woudln't it be great if they had *other* baseball leagues? Leagues at varying levels of competition, so that instead of just wildly guessing whether a player will be successful in the majors, we could put them through a series of intensifying challenges and keep some sort of statistical records of the result.

 

We could call them "Lesser Leagues." And then when a guy has trouble putting up a .340 OBP in the Lesser Leagues, we can know he won't likely be successful in the majors.

 

Instead, we just have to cycle every person on the planet in our corner outfield spots, because we haven't seen any of them start and therefore have no idea if they are good at it or not. We better get lucky fast.

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Nothing Colvin has done in the minors makes me think he could be a starting corner outfielder in the majors.

 

He might end up being a starting corner OF in the majors, but first he would need to prove it before trading our starters to give him the job.

 

Explain to me how you can prove you are a starting corner OF in the majors when you are always on the bench because of someone else having the starting job?

 

Like I said before posts like this are dumb. There is no way to know if someone is good enough to be a starter unless you have him start a significant period of time. Some guys do great in small doses in platoons but then wear down and suck when playing everyday. Some guys are the opposite. Either way you don't know what will happen until he starts.

 

 

Your philosophy is great if you are the Padres, Royals, or Padres, but not when you play in a major market and have a contending team.

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Nothing Colvin has done in the minors makes me think he could be a starting corner outfielder in the majors.

 

He might end up being a starting corner OF in the majors, but first he would need to prove it before trading our starters to give him the job.

 

Explain to me how you can prove you are a starting corner OF in the majors when you are always on the bench because of someone else having the starting job?

 

Like I said before posts like this are dumb. There is no way to know if someone is good enough to be a starter unless you have him start a significant period of time. Some guys do great in small doses in platoons but then wear down and suck when playing everyday. Some guys are the opposite. Either way you don't know what will happen until he starts.

 

 

Your philosophy is great if you are the Padres, Royals, or Padres, but not when you play in a major market and have a contending team.

 

or the royals

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I think the outfield situation is pretty good ATM. Fukudome and Nady have some really good platoon splits while Fukudome and Colvin can solidify the defense late in the game. We can talk about the albatross that is Soriano all we want, but the main problem with him is that he 'has to' start pretty frequently. I think pulling him for defense shows that his playing time isn't that untouchable given his performance and he could be utilized pretty well if he is mainly started against more fastball heavy pitchers and not put in situations where he'd fail miserably. It's a shame he's being paid all that money, but the five outfielders on the whole are a pretty good group.

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