Can Silva Turn Things Around and Be Useful?

[dew1679666265]

what kind of bonus does rothschild deserve for cleaning up hendy's mess here?

 

I probably wouldn't complain if Ricketts gave Rothschild a lifetime contract.

[Sosa21MVP]

Definitely have to tip your cap to Carlos Silva so far. :hello:

[CubsWin]

It's not going to last.

-written April 21st

That all depends on what you mean by "last"...

You had a month to come up with a clever response and that was the best you could do?

No, we had to wait 5 weeks in order for the comment to be valid. I wasn't trying to be clever.

 

Get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

I'm having a fine day, thanks for asking. My problem with your post is that I think it's incredibly annoying to wait a month to respond to a post only to point out that someone was wrong(but in this case, he isn't technically wrong yet).

In order to comment on the post's result, one would have to wait a decent amount of time. What amount of time would you prefer I have waited in order to not annoy you?

 

I think commenting on a Cubs fan's freely offered prediction, be it overly negative or overly positive, is a commonly accepted experience on a Cubs message board. If you it's unacceptable, that is fine with me.

[JimSorgi]

In order to comment on the post's result, one would have to wait a decent amount of time. What amount of time would you prefer I have waited in order to not annoy you?

 

I think commenting on a Cubs fan's freely offered prediction, be it overly negative or overly positive, is a commonly accepted experience on a Cubs message board. If you it's unacceptable, that is fine with me.

If you disagree with someone, maybe you should actually address their post as soon as you read it. You could maybe even have an intelligent discussion instead of just typing some douchey one-line response a month later.

[CubsWin]

In order to comment on the post's result, one would have to wait a decent amount of time. What amount of time would you prefer I have waited in order to not annoy you?

 

I think commenting on a Cubs fan's freely offered prediction, be it overly negative or overly positive, is a commonly accepted experience on a Cubs message board. If you it's unacceptable, that is fine with me.

If you disagree with someone, maybe you should actually address their post as soon as you read it. You could maybe even have an intelligent discussion instead of just typing some douchey one-line response a month later.

I'm attempting to have an intelligent discussion with you about this, making the obvious point that one can't comment on the result of a prediction until enough time has passed to see whether it was accurate, but that intelligent point seems lost on you. Perhaps because it begins to unravel your criticism of my post.

 

Apparently, however, it's okay to make "douchy" comments on a post, so long as you do them soon after the post was made...

You had a month to come up with a clever post and that's the best you could do?

 

I've messaged you on this subject once already and you've yet to respond. This is my last public post in this thread on this subject. If you'd like to continue this discussion, for the sake of everyone else, let's do it via private message.

[CubsWin]

7 IP, 4 hits, 1 earned, 1 walk, 5 Ks.

 

This is just getting weird. His ERA is 2.93 and if this lead holds up, he's about to be 8-0. Meanwhile, Aramis Ramirez is batting .168. What the hell is going on?

 

I would easily trade this Carlos Silva for the previous Aramis Ramirez. Can we do that?

[C.C.]

:shock:

[chuckywang]

WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD SILVA???

[Soul]

Amazing game, this baseball. Players long counted on for a certain level of performance fall off a cliff, and players laughed at for being junk suddenly start turning in great performances.

[Donzo1679666396]

David Patton was really good last spring too, Id lay big money on this being a few good innings in spring training, and thats it.

 

Ouch!

 

I'm sure you're not alone--I bet there's lots of eatin' da crow goin' on.

[UMFan83]

Gotta love the NL.

 

Dontrelle Willis has an ERA somewhere around 6.00 in his 3 years (22 starts) with the Tigers, then goes to Arizona and pitches 6 scoreless innings with the DBacks. Jake Peavy wins a Cy Young and is known as one of the best pitchers in baseball with San Diego, goes to Chicago and has an ERA over 6.00.

[erik316wttn]

WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD SILVA???

 

Did Rotschild help with with something in the way that he helped Dempster when he became a starter? I guess Larry helped him develop that glove motion he does during his windup to hide the ball longer. Could it be something like that?

[Soul]

Gotta love the NL.

 

Dontrelle Willis has an ERA somewhere around 6.00 in his 3 years (22 starts) with the Tigers, then goes to Arizona and pitches 6 scoreless innings with the DBacks. Jake Peavy wins a Cy Young and is known as one of the best pitchers in baseball with San Diego, goes to Chicago and has an ERA over 6.00.

 

Yeah, there's that too.

[CubColtPacer]

Gotta love the NL.

 

Dontrelle Willis has an ERA somewhere around 6.00 in his 3 years (22 starts) with the Tigers, then goes to Arizona and pitches 6 scoreless innings with the DBacks. Jake Peavy wins a Cy Young and is known as one of the best pitchers in baseball with San Diego, goes to Chicago and has an ERA over 6.00.

 

In Silva's case, I think that is only a small part of the reason. Silva's major difference has been what the fangraphs article pointed out earlier in the season. He has completely changed how he pitches against left-handers by relying on a changeup instead of his two seam fastball. That has turned what was previously his main weakness into a strength for him. His numbers against right-handers are about the same as they have always been.

 

That might mean that he could have an improvement that lasts. Looking at his peripherals, his strikeout rate is easily the best its ever been and he's maintained his other numbers. Obviously he's not sub 3 ERA good (very few pitchers are and Silva has definitely had luck) but his numbers suggest he could be transitioning from average to well above average.

[Soul]

Well, it's just hard for me to believe he's done this. I freely give kudos to Larry and Carlos for turning it around.

 

It's become the brightest spot for my Cub existence in what has been, frankly, a pretty blah season so far.

[C.C.]

Gotta love the NL.

 

Dontrelle Willis has an ERA somewhere around 6.00 in his 3 years (22 starts) with the Tigers, then goes to Arizona and pitches 6 scoreless innings with the DBacks. Jake Peavy wins a Cy Young and is known as one of the best pitchers in baseball with San Diego, goes to Chicago and has an ERA over 6.00.

 

In Silva's case, I think that is only a small part of the reason. Silva's major difference has been what the fangraphs article pointed out earlier in the season. He has completely changed how he pitches against left-handers by relying on a changeup instead of his two seam fastball. That has turned what was previously his main weakness into a strength for him. His numbers against right-handers are about the same as they have always been.

 

That might mean that he could have a improvement that lasts. Looking at his peripherals, his strikeout rate is easily the best its ever been and he's maintained his other numbers. Obviously he's not sub 3 ERA good (very few pitchers are) but his number suggest he could be transitioning from average to well above average.

 

Credit LR?

[NCCubFan]

Silva for Cy Young, with an assist to Rothschild (OK, maybe that's a bit overboard, but All-Star lock at this point).

 

I'm starting to believe he's for real at least for this year. The question (which won't be answered until next year) is whether he's become a long-term star or whether he's this year's version of Kent Bottenfield or Esteban Loaiza.

[Soul]

Have there been other cases of a pitching coach surviving long term through several managerial changes?

 

The way things are right now, I'd be all for Larry sticking around after Lou's gone. And I doubt many possible new managers would consider that a bad thing, too.

[NCCubFan]

Have there been other cases of a pitching coach surviving long term through several managerial changes?

The Orioles had a long-term pitching coach named Miller several years ago (I forgot his first name), but I don't recall if that was under one manager or several. It also seems like Johnny Sain was the Braves' pitching coach for several years before Cox became manager, but again I'm not positive. This seems to me similar to a football coordinator surviving several head coaching changes. Rothschild's reputation as Cubs' pitching coach would probably have been even better had Dusty listened to him.

[dew1679666265]

WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD SILVA???

 

Did Rotschild help with with something in the way that he helped Dempster when he became a starter? I guess Larry helped him develop that glove motion he does during his windup to hide the ball longer. Could it be something like that?

 

For some reason I'm thinking it was Rothschild and Maddux who implemented the glove wiggle thing for Dempster. I think he was tipping pitches and Maddux/Rothschild brought up the glove waggle to hide his pitches better.

[CubsWin]

WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD SILVA???

 

Did Rotschild help with with something in the way that he helped Dempster when he became a starter? I guess Larry helped him develop that glove motion he does during his windup to hide the ball longer. Could it be something like that?

I started this thread with a post about a side session Larry had with Carlos and I think Greg Maddux after his first (and disastrous) spring training start. In that session they adjusted his stride towards home plate such that he would finish more on the 3rd base side and give him a different angle. Carlos said he was very excited about the results of that side session and was eager to pitch his next game, a feeling he hadn't felt since shortly after signing with Seattle.

 

Linky - Cubs.com

[javy knows my name]

WHY ARE YOU SO GOOD SILVA???

 

Did Rotschild help with with something in the way that he helped Dempster when he became a starter? I guess Larry helped him develop that glove motion he does during his windup to hide the ball longer. Could it be something like that?

 

For some reason I'm thinking it was Rothschild and Maddux who implemented the glove wiggle thing for Dempster. I think he was tipping pitches and Maddux/Rothschild brought up the glove waggle to hide his pitches better.

Pretty sure that glove wiggle pre-dates Maddux' hire by a couple years.

[Sammy Sofa]

Gotta love the NL.

 

Dontrelle Willis has an ERA somewhere around 6.00 in his 3 years (22 starts) with the Tigers, then goes to Arizona and pitches 6 scoreless innings with the DBacks. Jake Peavy wins a Cy Young and is known as one of the best pitchers in baseball with San Diego, goes to Chicago and has an ERA over 6.00.

 

Yeah, there's that too.

 

The warnings signs were there with Peavy well before he moved to the AL. There's a definitely a ton of pitchers who show that they're clearly benefiting from pitching in the NL as opposed to the AL, but between his elbow issues and his home and road splits in much of his latter career with the Padres, Peavy likely wouldn't fare too much better in the NL for long. And Willis was getting shellacked in the NL, too, hence his trade to the Tigers in the first place.

[rocket]

i'm pretty sure i was for the bradley/silva trade 100%, for the record

[17 Seconds]

Gotta love the NL.

 

Dontrelle Willis has an ERA somewhere around 6.00 in his 3 years (22 starts) with the Tigers, then goes to Arizona and pitches 6 scoreless innings with the DBacks. Jake Peavy wins a Cy Young and is known as one of the best pitchers in baseball with San Diego, goes to Chicago and has an ERA over 6.00.

 

dontrelle has only had one start, and still sucks. and i doubt peavy's problems are from the league change.