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If you would, refresh my memory on this?

You realy think it will be a "few years"?... I don't see 2014 as suck.

Well, it is what it is. Unless Theo had Harry’s magic wand, how were the Cubs gonna win in 2012? & I guess it depends on what your definition of winning is. Do you want to spend your assets on a team that has to eek into the playoffs & hope to luck out, or do you want a team built to be a perennial contender? That’s an easy question for me… Nevertheless, I don’t think much will make you happy. You’re gonna be bellyaching about most things anyway.

That’s the thing, right now you don’t buy elite pitching & hitting, you develop it. “Dumpster diving” isn’t the long term plan, it’s just perfect for right now.

I’m surprised at the miserable tone in this thread… You guys are usually better than that here. For Sanchez, the Cubs got out bid- so what?... Were they suppose to top 5/$80M? That would have been nuts. IMO, I’m glad he didn’t sign the Cubs offer. Did y’all really want him on the books in 2016 & 2017 for $$16M per?--- awful. I really like these one & two year deals at this point…If a player flops, so what; if a player excels, then you have an asset- nice! On the miserable mojo by a lot of the posters here- myopic much?!?… For last year, it was what it was, 2012 was going to be a mess regardless. What did it matter if the Cubs lost 91 games or 101 game- same difference. The Cubs traded some middling assets for youth, gave every prospect even close to the show a shot & added a bunch of talent to the system- good year. For this year, does any reasonable Cub fan want the Cubs in bidding wars with the Dodgers & Angels right now? If the Cubs lose 84 or 94 games this year, what's the difference?!? To varying degrees, the Cubs established 3 young core players in 2012, Rizzo, Shark & Castillo. If the Cubs can add 3 or more young core players to the team this year & add as much talent to the farm system as last year, that would be an excellent year. This would set the Cubs up to be playoff contenders in 2014 & they’d be setup for a long term run. Enjoy the process!

Then "FIP/XFIP" would be wrong; he's filthy. He has over 400 MLB innings pitched & less than 350 hits... Not by luck, it's by great pitching.

Is this for Hellickson, or for one of Hellickson's used jocks? If it's actually for Hellickson, think Garza trade, except the Rays would want more. Anyway, it's Shields who will be traded.

Rangers have a lot of good prospects in A-Ball... http://texas.rangers.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/#list=tex

Deal! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV8yuhQZXkE&feature=related

A shoty but sweat breakdown on Delgado: http://tsf.tbo.com/tbo/baseball/player.cgi?7208

Braves prospects... http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/mlb/prospects/watch/y2012/#list=atl

So, do you think the constant process of improving has stopped?

Thanks!

Yeah, I just missed him... I only keep up with the Cubs prospects on a very part time basis. Tell me about him & what is your list?!?