best coaching job in Big 10

[CubbieBum]

In order to do a list I would need this to be better defined. I will say Wisconsin wouldn't be very high on my list. They don't have much history and they never get great recruits. They win because of their scheme and Bo Ryan's ability to find guys who fit that scheme. You take that job and you are looking at having to win will less talent every year.

[illiniguy]

In order to do a list I would need this to be better defined. I will say Wisconsin wouldn't be very high on my list. They don't have much history and they never get great recruits. They win because of their scheme and Bo Ryan's ability to find guys who fit that scheme. You take that job and you are looking at having to win will less talent every year.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist.

[CubbieBum]

In order to do a list I would need this to be better defined. I will say Wisconsin wouldn't be very high on my list. They don't have much history and they never get great recruits. They win because of their scheme and Bo Ryan's ability to find guys who fit that scheme. You take that job and you are looking at having to win will less talent every year.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist.

 

 

Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic.

 

Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits.

[illiniguy]

In order to do a list I would need this to be better defined. I will say Wisconsin wouldn't be very high on my list. They don't have much history and they never get great recruits. They win because of their scheme and Bo Ryan's ability to find guys who fit that scheme. You take that job and you are looking at having to win will less talent every year.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist.

 

 

Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic.

 

Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits.

In the past five years they have put Alando Tucker and Devin Harris in the NBA.

Illinois has put Luther Head and Deron Williams

Indiana put in Eric Gordon

Minnesota hasn't put anyone in

Michigan hasn't put anyone in

Purdue has put in Carl Landry

Michigan State has put in Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager, and Paul Davis

Northwestern hasn't put anyone in

Ohio State has put in Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daquen Cook

Iowa hasn't put anyone in

Penn State hasn't put anyone in

That's just off the top of my head, but looks like they have decent talent compared to even the big boys in the Big Ten. In fact they with Illinois have put in the only All Star level talent. So again, yes the Badgers have had good talent.

[illiniguy]

As for your Wisconsin can't recruit thing. Since 02 the conference has had 17 McDAAs.

 

Ohio State has had 8 of them.

Indiana has had 3.

Michigan State has had 3.

Illinois 2.

Wisconsin has had 1.

 

So 4 of the teams have had a better run of recruiting. Out of those 4 only Ohio State has hhd just a huge run difference, but if you wanna believe that Wisconsin doesn't have talent each year by all means go right ahead. Fact is they are a good program, ran by a good coach, with a good talent level.

[CubbieBum]

In order to do a list I would need this to be better defined. I will say Wisconsin wouldn't be very high on my list. They don't have much history and they never get great recruits. They win because of their scheme and Bo Ryan's ability to find guys who fit that scheme. You take that job and you are looking at having to win will less talent every year.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist.

 

 

Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic.

 

Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits.

In the past five years they have put Alando Tucker and Devin Harris in the NBA.

Illinois has put Luther Head and Deron Williams

Indiana put in Eric Gordon

Minnesota hasn't put anyone in

Michigan hasn't put anyone in

Purdue has put in Carl Landry

Michigan State has put in Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager, and Paul Davis

Northwestern hasn't put anyone in

Ohio State has put in Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daquen Cook

Iowa hasn't put anyone in

Penn State hasn't put anyone in

That's just off the top of my head, but looks like they have decent talent compared to even the big boys in the Big Ten. In fact they with Illinois have put in the only All Star level talent. So again, yes the Badgers have had good talent.

 

No they really don't. I never thought anyone would debate this. They never get top classes because recruits don't want to go there. They get guys who fit Ryan's scheme and thus play well for them but don't have the talent of the Gordon's, Moore's, Oden's, Lucas', Harris', McCamey's ... etc.

 

Your list is also pretty incomplete. Marcus Landry I believe made it this year, Indiana has White who made it (and sort of Harden), Minnesota has Humphries, Michigan State had Alan Anderson a couple years ago, Michigan had Courtney Sims, Ohio State's Hunter I believe got sometime last year with an east coast team and there's Koufos and finally there is Illinois (how did you forget them) who had Augustine and Dee Brown. These are also off the top of my head and I'm sure I missed a few although this tends to be something I remember well.

[CubbieBum]

As for your Wisconsin can't recruit thing. Since 02 the conference has had 17 McDAAs.

 

Ohio State has had 8 of them.

Indiana has had 3.

Michigan State has had 3.

Illinois 2.

Wisconsin has had 1.

 

So 4 of the teams have had a better run of recruiting. Out of those 4 only Ohio State has hhd just a huge run difference, but if you wanna believe that Wisconsin doesn't have talent each year by all means go right ahead. Fact is they are a good program, ran by a good coach, with a good talent level.

 

So McDAA's are all that matter in recruiting. News to me.

 

EDIT: In looking it up Butch was the McDAA for Wisconsin. He grew up 2 hours away from Madison and it is, if I am not mistaken, very rare that the state of Wisconsin has a McDAA or at least they are towards the bottom in the number that they have had.

Edited March 3, 2010 by CubbieBum

[soapy]

 

It's why I went back and added "some" in front of both IU and ND. I know from CubinNY's frothing ramblings how some people view Notre Dame, and I know from a sampling of Peegs how some IU fans are. Nobody here acts that way, and no ND fans I know act that way, but it's a real case to me of the dumbest 10% yelling the loudest.

 

fair enough. i don't disagree

[SpongeWorthy]

In order to do a list I would need this to be better defined. I will say Wisconsin wouldn't be very high on my list. They don't have much history and they never get great recruits. They win because of their scheme and Bo Ryan's ability to find guys who fit that scheme. You take that job and you are looking at having to win will less talent every year.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist.

 

 

Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic.

 

Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits.

In the past five years they have put Alando Tucker and Devin Harris in the NBA.

Illinois has put Luther Head and Deron Williams

Indiana put in Eric Gordon

Minnesota hasn't put anyone in

Michigan hasn't put anyone in

Purdue has put in Carl Landry

Michigan State has put in Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager, and Paul Davis

Northwestern hasn't put anyone in

Ohio State has put in Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daquen Cook

Iowa hasn't put anyone in

Penn State hasn't put anyone in

That's just off the top of my head, but looks like they have decent talent compared to even the big boys in the Big Ten. In fact they with Illinois have put in the only All Star level talent. So again, yes the Badgers have had good talent.

 

You've done a fine job of illustrating how the Big 10 produces crappy NBA players.

[minnesotacubsfan]

1. Minnesota

 

 

thats all.

[E.J.]

MSU is definitely a better gig than Michigan, and this is coming from a Michigan Alum and diehard fan. We haven't cared that much about basketball since the Fab 5.

[biittner77]

Extremely hard, but putting Purdue/Iowa at the bottom of the Big 10 with Penn State/Northwestern is a joke if you want to include prestige.

 

What's so prestigious about Iowa basketball? Purdue has always been the other team in Indiana and haven't done too well on the recent success front.

[Tracer Bullet]

Greg Oden

 

this guy can't walk

[illiniguy]

In order to do a list I would need this to be better defined. I will say Wisconsin wouldn't be very high on my list. They don't have much history and they never get great recruits. They win because of their scheme and Bo Ryan's ability to find guys who fit that scheme. You take that job and you are looking at having to win will less talent every year.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist.

 

 

Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic.

 

Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits.

In the past five years they have put Alando Tucker and Devin Harris in the NBA.

Illinois has put Luther Head and Deron Williams

Indiana put in Eric Gordon

Minnesota hasn't put anyone in

Michigan hasn't put anyone in

Purdue has put in Carl Landry

Michigan State has put in Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager, and Paul Davis

Northwestern hasn't put anyone in

Ohio State has put in Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daquen Cook

Iowa hasn't put anyone in

Penn State hasn't put anyone in

That's just off the top of my head, but looks like they have decent talent compared to even the big boys in the Big Ten. In fact they with Illinois have put in the only All Star level talent. So again, yes the Badgers have had good talent.

 

No they really don't. I never thought anyone would debate this. They never get top classes because recruits don't want to go there. They get guys who fit Ryan's scheme and thus play well for them but don't have the talent of the Gordon's, Moore's, Oden's, Lucas', Harris', McCamey's ... etc.

 

Your list is also pretty incomplete. Marcus Landry I believe made it this year, Indiana has White who made it (and sort of Harden), Minnesota has Humphries, Michigan State had Alan Anderson a couple years ago, Michigan had Courtney Sims, Ohio State's Hunter I believe got sometime last year with an east coast team and there's Koufos and finally there is Illinois (how did you forget them) who had Augustine and Dee Brown. These are also off the top of my head and I'm sure I missed a few although this tends to be something I remember well.

I was trying to go with guys who were actually playing com ein the NBA otherwise I would have went with Roger Powell as well.

[illiniguy]

In order to do a list I would need this to be better defined. I will say Wisconsin wouldn't be very high on my list. They don't have much history and they never get great recruits. They win because of their scheme and Bo Ryan's ability to find guys who fit that scheme. You take that job and you are looking at having to win will less talent every year.

This laughable. Wisconsin has a lot of talent each year. To pretend otherwise is either foolish or racist.

 

 

Uhhh no. They don't get many guys to the NBA and never have top classes. Like I said they get guys who fit their scheme. They don't try to get the top recruits. They scout to find guys who can play defense, have good shooting range and have a good work ethic.

 

Do you really think they get great talent? That is laughable. They develop guys and get them to play well in their scheme. That is all Bo Ryan and his staff. Like I said taking that job means you aren't going to get great recruits are going to have win with less talent that your competition. Wisconsin I believe is also a bad state for basketball recruits.

In the past five years they have put Alando Tucker and Devin Harris in the NBA.

Illinois has put Luther Head and Deron Williams

Indiana put in Eric Gordon

Minnesota hasn't put anyone in

Michigan hasn't put anyone in

Purdue has put in Carl Landry

Michigan State has put in Shannon Brown, Maurice Ager, and Paul Davis

Northwestern hasn't put anyone in

Ohio State has put in Mike Conley, Greg Oden, and Daquen Cook

Iowa hasn't put anyone in

Penn State hasn't put anyone in

That's just off the top of my head, but looks like they have decent talent compared to even the big boys in the Big Ten. In fact they with Illinois have put in the only All Star level talent. So again, yes the Badgers have had good talent.

 

You've done a fine job of illustrating how the Big 10 produces crappy NBA players.

Yeah Deron and Devin are it. Still Wisky has one of the two All Stars.

[cubsfan]

Extremely hard, but putting Purdue/Iowa at the bottom of the Big 10 with Penn State/Northwestern is a joke if you want to include prestige.

 

What's so prestigious about Iowa basketball? Purdue has always been the other team in Indiana and haven't done too well on the recent success front.

Iowa's a top ten program in the history of college basketball.

[SouthSideRyan]

You've done a fine job of illustrating how the Big 10 produces crappy NBA players.

Yeah Deron and Devin are it. Still Wisky has one of the two All Stars.

 

Of course there's only been like 12 all stars drafted in the time frame in question.

[Guest]

Extremely hard, but putting Purdue/Iowa at the bottom of the Big 10 with Penn State/Northwestern is a joke if you want to include prestige.

 

What's so prestigious about Iowa basketball? Purdue has always been the other team in Indiana and haven't done too well on the recent success front.

Iowa's a top ten program in the history of college basketball.

:-))

[cubsfan]

Extremely hard, but putting Purdue/Iowa at the bottom of the Big 10 with Penn State/Northwestern is a joke if you want to include prestige.

 

What's so prestigious about Iowa basketball? Purdue has always been the other team in Indiana and haven't done too well on the recent success front.

Iowa's a top ten program in the history of college basketball.

:-))

Take it up with Sagarin.

[inari]

Extremely hard, but putting Purdue/Iowa at the bottom of the Big 10 with Penn State/Northwestern is a joke if you want to include prestige.

 

What's so prestigious about Iowa basketball? Purdue has always been the other team in Indiana and haven't done too well on the recent success front.

Iowa's a top ten program in the history of college basketball.

:-))

Take it up with Sagarin.

 

Take it up with common sense. Top ten? Come on.

[snoodmonger]

 

Take it up with common sense. Top ten? Come on.

 

He meant in the Big 10.

[Tracer Bullet]

Dr Tom is not impressed with the lack of respect being shown in this thread. If you want the ghost of Chris Street haunting you for the rest of your days, just keep on going.

[snoodmonger]

Dr Tom is not impressed with the lack of respect being shown in this thread. If you want the ghost of Chris Street haunting you for the rest of your days, just keep on going.

 

Luke Recker's about to get all up in some people's faces.

[SouthSideRyan]

Pierre Pierce 'gon start raping people.

[jersey cubs fan]

Wait, wait, wait, I got one.

 

Jeff Moe is going to do something to somebody