Re: Bears Offseason Thread

[David]

It was Manning.

[RedFlash]

Wow really like the Chris Harris trade. Now sign Faneca, and this offseason will be about as big as success as could be expected without a 1st round draft pick.

 

Faneca signed a 1 yr 2.5 mill deal with Arizona. No surpise, considering all the Pittsburgh ties Arizona has.

[Guest]

What I remember of Chris Harris is that he got beat on big plays here and there, but he would also create big turnovers with forced fumbles and/or picks. A guy you cheered one minute, but jeered the next. I was disappointed that he was traded, as I liked his aggressiveness. I really thought we had something really special brewing in the defensive backfield between Mike Brown, Harris, Vasher and Tillman.

 

I didn't play close attention to Harris in Carolina, but from what I have heard from him, he still sounds like the same player. Gets burned on occasion, but still makes big plays and/or turnovers.

 

I even want to say that the getting burned that I'm trying to recall were plays that were semi related to him trying to cause a turnover.

[Wilson A2000]

Wow really like the Chris Harris trade. Now sign Faneca, and this offseason will be about as big as success as could be expected without a 1st round draft pick.

 

Faneca signed a 1 yr 2.5 mill deal with Arizona. No surpise, considering all the Pittsburgh ties Arizona has.

 

Man the Bears couldn't do better than that or did Faneca just want to go there? Second thought, if Olin is going to stay at center, you might get as much production with Beekman as guard as with Faneca. From the scouting reports I heard, Faneca's production really has been dropping off in the second half of the year.

[UMFan83]

We couldn't have given him 5 million for a year to pry him away from Arizona? I would have felt a lot better about the upcoming season had we signed him.

 

Have we any reason to believe the O-line will be any better than last year? I hate when we have glaring holes and just completely ignore them in the offseason. I realize the Bears had many glaring holes last year, but O-line was one of the biggest if not the biggest.

[RedFlash]

We couldn't have given him 5 million for a year to pry him away from Arizona? I would have felt a lot better about the upcoming season had we signed him.

 

Have we any reason to believe the O-line will be any better than last year? I hate when we have glaring holes and just completely ignore them in the offseason. I realize the Bears had many glaring holes last year, but O-line was one of the biggest if not the biggest.

 

I think the Bears passed on Faneca, because of what happen with Orlando Pace. I know it's apples to oranges, but I read it somewhere as that is the reason.

[Wilson A2000]

We couldn't have given him 5 million for a year to pry him away from Arizona? I would have felt a lot better about the upcoming season had we signed him.

 

Have we any reason to believe the O-line will be any better than last year? I hate when we have glaring holes and just completely ignore them in the offseason. I realize the Bears had many glaring holes last year, but O-line was one of the biggest if not the biggest.

 

I think the Bears passed on Faneca, because of what happen with Orlando Pace. I know it's apples to oranges, but I read it somewhere as that is the reason.

 

If you are going to get rid of Alex Brown for 5 million, you probably can't sign Faneca for 5 million. I think Faneca could have been had for less though looking at the money Arizona gave him.

[TruffleShuffle]

faneca must have gone downhill in a hurry if he's only able to get that deal.

[davell]

Faneca gave up 7 sacks and 3 hurries last year, which was the most of any left guard in the NFL. I'm glad we missed out on him.

[hawkeyecub]

faneca must have gone downhill in a hurry if he's only able to get that deal.

 

He really must have. I was hoping the Vikings would look at him for RG but they had no interest. Neither did the Bears, neither did the vast majority of the league. I pretty much only watched the Jets in the playoffs last year and while their o-line in general was very good, I never really focused in on him enough to tell.

[Wilson A2000]

faneca must have gone downhill in a hurry if he's only able to get that deal.

 

He really must have. I was hoping the Vikings would look at him for RG but they had no interest. Neither did the Bears, neither did the vast majority of the league. I pretty much only watched the Jets in the playoffs last year and while their o-line in general was very good, I never really focused in on him enough to tell.

 

Angelo publicly said that he had interest in Faneca.

[UMFan83]

Faneca gave up 7 sacks and 3 hurries last year, which was the most of any left guard in the NFL. I'm glad we missed out on him.

 

Fair enough. Maybe I should know what I'm talking about before I get on my soapbox. I just saw a former Pro Bowl OLineman who is old but not finished (so I thought) signing for just 2.5 million and knowing how desperately the Bears need O-line help, whether they admit it or not.

[UMFan83]

We couldn't have given him 5 million for a year to pry him away from Arizona? I would have felt a lot better about the upcoming season had we signed him.

 

Have we any reason to believe the O-line will be any better than last year? I hate when we have glaring holes and just completely ignore them in the offseason. I realize the Bears had many glaring holes last year, but O-line was one of the biggest if not the biggest.

 

I think the Bears passed on Faneca, because of what happen with Orlando Pace. I know it's apples to oranges, but I read it somewhere as that is the reason.

 

Maybe, but it hasn't been that long since Rueben Brown was around. He worked out. So they are 1 for 2.

[Soul]

faneca must have gone downhill in a hurry if he's only able to get that deal.

 

He really must have. I was hoping the Vikings would look at him for RG but they had no interest. Neither did the Bears, neither did the vast majority of the league. I pretty much only watched the Jets in the playoffs last year and while their o-line in general was very good, I never really focused in on him enough to tell.

 

Angelo publicly said that he had interest in Faneca.

I heard him say that too, but I think history has shown that Angelo doesn't necessarily say publicly what he's really thinking/doing behind the scenes.

[JonJayCutler]

Have we any reason to believe the O-line will be any better than last year? I hate when we have glaring holes and just completely ignore them in the offseason. I realize the Bears had many glaring holes last year, but O-line was one of the biggest if not the biggest.

 

The O-Line was much better last year after Pace was benched. I could be wrong but I think the Bears announced Omiyale would be moving to RT, but I'm not sure if that means he will be starting over Schaffer, who I thought looked good in the games he played last year. We have decent depth at tackle but not so much at guard. If one of Beekman/Garza go down, they might have to move Omiyale back to guard if he indeed starts at RT. Overall I think it will be an average unit.

 

I love the Chris Harris trade assuming its for Williams straight up with no picks involved. Harris had EIGHT forced fumbles for Carolina in 2007 :shock:

[RedFlash]

I love the Chris Harris trade assuming its for Williams straight up with no picks involved. Harris had EIGHT forced fumbles for Carolina in 2007 :shock:

 

 

Even tho rotoworld eluded to it, I have not seen any articles concerning the trade that includes a draft pick going to Carolina. Which leads to me believe this was a straight up trade.

[Banedon]

Well this is frustrating, but then again, the trade makes it a sure thing, without having to bid for his services...and from what it sounds like, Williams wanted out...didn't think he was getting a shot with the vets in front of him.

 

What is interesting about the trade is the Panthers had informed Harris Monday they would release him if he wasn't traded in 24 hours. If the Bears had waited, they potentially could have signed him without losing Williams.

[RedFlash]

Well this is frustrating, but then again, the trade makes it a sure thing, without having to bid for his services...and from what it sounds like, Williams wanted out...didn't think he was getting a shot with the vets in front of him.

 

What is interesting about the trade is the Panthers had informed Harris Monday they would release him if he wasn't traded in 24 hours. If the Bears had waited, they potentially could have signed him without losing Williams.

 

The Bears wanting to secure Harris without having to bid on him. Most likely there would had been teams they would have made a play on Harris had he became a FA, someone like New Orleans to possibly to replace Darren Sharper comes to mind. There was no guarantee the Bears could've sign Harris had he reach the market. So I have no problems with trading a player from an area we are pretty solid at for a player that the Bears need.

[rawaction]

Kevin Payne looks like he's on the way out.

 

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/next-move-bears-payne-could-seek-release.html

Hmmm interesting. I'd rather keep him and let him, Afalava, and Harris battle for a starting spot, but he does look like the #3 to me at this point, so if we took Bullocks instead it wouldn't be a huge deal.

 

I'd probably keep Payne. He's probably the best FS on the roster at this point (I know, not saying much), not knowing what Major Wright will do. But even if you figure Harris and Wright as starters, Payne would be the first likely to get time at FS and would at least be in the mix w/ Afalava at SS.

 

I figured Bullocks and Steltz were in trouble w/ an outside shot you could find a trade partner for Danieal Manning.

[Soul]

Kevin Payne looks like he's on the way out.

 

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/next-move-bears-payne-could-seek-release.html

Hmmm interesting. I'd rather keep him and let him, Afalava, and Harris battle for a starting spot, but he does look like the #3 to me at this point, so if we took Bullocks instead it wouldn't be a huge deal.

 

I'd probably keep Payne. He's probably the best FS on the roster at this point (I know, not saying much), not knowing what Major Wright will do. But even if you figure Harris and Wright as starters, Payne would be the first likely to get time at FS and would at least be in the mix w/ Afalava at SS.

 

I figured Bullocks and Steltz were in trouble w/ an outside shot you could find a trade partner for Danieal Manning.

 

Yeah, what the hell. Payne is lower on the depth chart than Steltz and Bullocks? How is that?

[Banedon]

Kevin Payne looks like he's on the way out.

 

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/04/next-move-bears-payne-could-seek-release.html

Hmmm interesting. I'd rather keep him and let him, Afalava, and Harris battle for a starting spot, but he does look like the #3 to me at this point, so if we took Bullocks instead it wouldn't be a huge deal.

 

I'd probably keep Payne. He's probably the best FS on the roster at this point (I know, not saying much), not knowing what Major Wright will do. But even if you figure Harris and Wright as starters, Payne would be the first likely to get time at FS and would at least be in the mix w/ Afalava at SS.

 

I figured Bullocks and Steltz were in trouble w/ an outside shot you could find a trade partner for Danieal Manning.

 

I don't think Manning would go anywhere...if nothing else he's valuable for his kick returns...

[tfarks]

Manning is useful as nickelback and kick returner. They need the depth at CB. Hopefully Graham impresses and Moore shows up, Bears need a lift in the entire secondary, not just S.

[David]

Faneca gave up 7 sacks and 3 hurries last year, which was the most of any left guard in the NFL. I'm glad we missed out on him.

 

 

Pretty much. All I've read was that he graded out very poorly last year, despite the fact that he made the Pro Bowl. There's a reason the Jets released him.

[David]

I don't think Manning would go anywhere...if nothing else he's valuable for his kick returns...

 

 

While that's true, and I don't think he's going anywhere, we seem to have plenty of guys on this team that can more than handle kick returns.

[Banedon]

I don't think Manning would go anywhere...if nothing else he's valuable for his kick returns...

 

 

While that's true, and I don't think he's going anywhere, we seem to have plenty of guys on this team that can more than handle kick returns.

 

Probably...Knox could do it. Hester of course. But Manning has some versatility that I don't think the Bears would want to part with.