Rudy Jaramillo available?

[BCVM22]

I may have to get a Jaramillo Cubs jersey if this pans out.

 

http://tinyurl.com/jaramillo8

 

Get on it.

[17 Seconds]

I don't really know anything about Jaramillo, but I've always heard great things. However, this low patience stuff I'm starting to hear is worrisome. That's kind of a big deal.

 

Can somebody who is familar with jaramillo tell me if this is something to be worried about? I really don't want this team to start sliding back into the hack mentality.

[manbearcub]

i think the optimism is because jaramillo is more of a mechanics coach, as opposed to approach which i think we all agree is lou's input.

[Guest]

I don't really know anything about Jaramillo, but I've always heard great things. However, this low patience stuff I'm starting to hear is worrisome. That's kind of a big deal.

 

Can somebody who is familar with jaramillo tell me if this is something to be worried about? I really don't want this team to start sliding back into the hack mentality.

lol - I feel ignored. :evil:

[Cubswin11]

i think the optimism is because jaramillo is more of a mechanics coach, as opposed to approach which i think we all agree is lou's input.

I agree, and with a team compromised of primarily of veterans, IMO it's better to have a hitting coach who emphasizes mechanics more than approach. These guys in their late 20's and 30's are pretty much set in their ways at the plate, but all guys can use minor tweaks and adjustments in their hand positioning, stance, timing, etc. throughout the year so a guy who is good with working with/at mechanics could be quite valuable to this team.

[Tyrant]

I may have to get a Jaramillo Cubs jersey if this pans out.

 

That's really weird.

[NCCubFan]

Neifi was good for us? What in the hell?

 

Don't you remember? He saved us.

He really did, in 1998.

[MSG T]

Neifi was good for us? What in the hell?

 

Don't you remember? He saved us.

He really did, in 1998.

 

:-))

[Radar3454]

i think the optimism is because jaramillo is more of a mechanics coach, as opposed to approach which i think we all agree is lou's input.

 

love those pics - hope to see another one after today.

[mcgoobs]

Has anyone ever looked at how good his players do outside of Arlington? Just pulling up quick splits on ESPN.com, here is how the Rangers fared in team OPS on the road vs the rest of the AL:

 

2000: .746, 13th out of 14 teams

2001: .796, 4th

2002: .735, 9th

2003: .717, 13th

2004: .736, 12th

2005: .747, 6th

2006: .765, 5th

2007: .717, 7th

2008: .766, 1st

2009: .715, 8th

 

I'm not as familiar with his work and learned a lot by reading others' posts in this thread, but the team performance away from Arlington hasn't been overwhelmingly stellar.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Has anyone ever looked at how good his players do outside of Arlington? Just pulling up quick splits on ESPN.com, here is how the Rangers fared in team OPS on the road vs the rest of the AL:

 

2000: .746, 13th out of 14 teams

2001: .796, 4th

2002: .735, 9th

2003: .717, 13th

2004: .736, 12th

2005: .747, 6th

2006: .765, 5th

2007: .717, 7th

2008: .766, 1st

2009: .715, 8th

 

I'm not as familiar with his work and learned a lot by reading others' posts in this thread, but the team performance away from Arlington hasn't been overwhelmingly stellar.

 

Upwards of 1/3 of their road games are played in Seattle, Oakland, and Anaheim, all pitchers parks of sometimes extreme degrees. Plus, when you look at some of the names of those he's most notably helped, like DeRosa and Dellucci, those guys didn't have large home/road splits

[AI]

I have some info on this situation...

 

The Rangers felt that the message was getting stale and that Rudy's influence was was waning. Furthermore, with the team for sale, they weren't willing to continue to break the bank for a hitting coach they felt was not as effective as he once had been. However, they didn't want to outright fire him, so they basically offered to add a year to his current deal at the same price, only a COL adjustment added.

 

He's a guy that had a tremendous amount of respect and backing in the clubhouse. The players love him. When the offense went south on the Rangers this summer, no one worked harder than Rudy. He lived in the cage with the guys. Mechanics are definitely his strong suit. His focus is getting and recognizing the right pitch to drive. He has a great eye and he'll give the Cubs everything he has.

[Clem Fandango]

I have some info on this situation...

 

The Rangers felt that the message was getting stale and that Rudy's influence was was waning. Furthermore, with the team for sale, they weren't willing to continue to break the bank for a hitting coach they felt was not as effective as he once had been. However, they didn't want to outright fire him, so they basically offered to add a year to his current deal at the same price, only a COL adjustment added.

 

He's a guy that had a tremendous amount of respect and backing in the clubhouse. The players love him. When the offense went south on the Rangers this summer, no one worked harder than Rudy. He lived in the cage with the guys. Mechanics are definitely his strong suit. His focus is getting and recognizing the right pitch to drive. He has a great eye and he'll give the Cubs everything he has.

 

That sounds like what Perry's philosophy was, no? Not hacking at the first good pitch you see just because it's a good pitch, but waiting for the first good pitch pitch you want and taking advantage of it when you recognize it?

[PrimeTime]

Looks like it's very close to happening..

 

Highly respected hitting guru Rudy Jaramillo is in serious talks with the Chicago Cubs about becoming their new hitting coach, and it appears likely that the sides will reach an agreement for Jaramillo to join the Cubs soon, SI.com has learned.

 

Jaramillo turned down the Rangers' offer to remain their hitting coach last week and is expected to become one of the two or three highest-paid coaches in the game with the Cubs. It is believed he will receive a multiyear deal for about $800,000 per year.

 

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/10/19/cubs.jaramillo/index.html

[Tyrant]

Looks like it's very close to happening..

 

Highly respected hitting guru Rudy Jaramillo is in serious talks with the Chicago Cubs about becoming their new hitting coach, and it appears likely that the sides will reach an agreement for Jaramillo to join the Cubs soon, SI.com has learned.

 

Jaramillo turned down the Rangers' offer to remain their hitting coach last week and is expected to become one of the two or three highest-paid coaches in the game with the Cubs. It is believed he will receive a multiyear deal for about $800,000 per year.

 

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/baseball/mlb/10/19/cubs.jaramillo/index.html

 

Good news that it could get done this early in the offseason. If he's truly a more mechanics-driven coach, it'd be great if he could work with our players as early as possible. It's tough to make big mechanical changes in March/April and make them work in the season.

[Sever82]

Would be nice if the cubs signed Duncan as the pitching coach as well.

[TruffleShuffle]

Would be nice if the cubs signed Duncan as the pitching coach as well.

 

i would pass out from joy if that happened.

[ctcf]

Is Duncan going to be available???

[dew1679666265]

Is Duncan going to be available???

 

Not likely. He's probably staying in St. Louis and even if he doesn't, it'll be because LaRussa is no longer there. And in that case, he'll likely follow LaRussa wherever he goes.

[rocket]

is leo mazzone retired? i don't know if he has any interest in coming back, but theoretically the greatest pitching coach of all time is already available.

[dew1679666265]

is leo mazzone retired? i don't know if he has any interest in coming back, but theoretically the greatest pitching coach of all time is already available.

 

I haven't heard anything official, but I know he's doing radio commentary in Atlanta now.

[Tyrant]

Is Duncan going to be available???

 

I'd sign his son to be the last bat off the bench (and totally hilarious defensive replacement) if it meant Duncan would come here.

[Sever82]

Is Duncan going to be available???

 

Not likely. He's probably staying in St. Louis and even if he doesn't, it'll be because LaRussa is no longer there. And in that case, he'll likely follow LaRussa wherever he goes.

 

I dont know about that. I think Duncan will stay if Larussa stays but i think Duncan will explore his options if Larussa leaves. From what I've read he feels disrespected and betrayed in St.Louis by how they treated his son. I wouldn't be surprised if he became available but i also dont expect the Cubs to go after him. I'm little annoyed by it but the cubs have this unconditional love for Larry Rothchild.

 

Speaking of St.Louis, I really feel bad for that organization, I mean i dont expect derosa to stay there and it doesn't look like Holliday will stay despite what he has said in the papers. It looks like he prefers to go to NY.

[Little Slide Rooter]

Rudy Jaramillo will likely reach an agreement soon with the Cubs for their hitting coach position, according to SI's Jon Heyman. Heyman says Jaramillo will be near the top of the coach pay scale, at $800K a year for multiple years. The Cubs are hoping Jaramillo can help Alfonso Soriano. Milton Bradley also hit well in Texas, though he's a trade candidate.

 

Looks like its going to happen.

[jersey cubs fan]

I wouldn't be surprised if he became available but i also dont expect the Cubs to go after him. I'm little annoyed by it but the cubs have this unconditional love for Larry Rothchild.

 

I've complained about him from time to time but the pitching has held this team together for the past decade. They've been a mediocre (or worse) hitting teams in most years and the only thing that had them contending in 2003, 2004 and 2009 was solid pitching. Part of that is an organizational focus on ptiching, but he's done it with several different casts of characters and only one constant, Zambrano.