NFL Week 5

[bukie]

When the Redskins play next week they'll have played 6 straight games against winless teams.

Well, 5, but yeah. And they lost to two of them. They could be the worst .500 team in history at the end of next week.

[Careless]

When the Redskins play next week they'll have played 6 straight games against winless teams.

Well, 5, but yeah. And they lost to two of them. They could be the worst .500 team in history at the end of next week.

Giants, rams, lions, bucs, panthers, chiefs makes 6

[bukie]

When the Redskins play next week they'll have played 6 straight games against winless teams.

Well, 5, but yeah. And they lost to two of them. They could be the worst .500 team in history at the end of next week.

Giants, rams, lions, bucs, panthers, chiefs makes 6

Ahh, right, week 1 is a default winless team.

 

The sad part of the rest of their schedule is that they are a combined 2-22, but 2-2 against the Redskins.

[ChiCubsFan]

The volume of bad football teams in the NFL this year is hopefully an anomaly. I don't look forward to more Sundays like yesterday.

 

You had a 4-0, 3-1, and two 2-2 teams that are considered playoff contenders on a bye, with every single bad team playing. This coming week you have a true headliner matchup at 1 and two more "should be decent games". The afternoon games kind of stink, but both primetime matchups at least look good on paper. But you're also missing a 5-0 team on a bye, a division leader, and a contender. But at least there's a bad team on a bye in Miami.

 

I would be hesitant to call a team that leads the league in both rush offense and rush defense a "bad team" (especially when you're 1-3 and have been playing from behind most games). They outplayed the Colts on MNF and didn't play too badly on the road in Atlanta or in San Diego. They certainly won't be a playoff team, and as tough as their schedule has been so far it doesn't get any easier, but I could still see them winning 7 or 8 games.

[jersey cubs fan]

The volume of bad football teams in the NFL this year is hopefully an anomaly. I don't look forward to more Sundays like yesterday.

 

You had a 4-0, 3-1, and two 2-2 teams that are considered playoff contenders on a bye, with every single bad team playing. This coming week you have a true headliner matchup at 1 and two more "should be decent games". The afternoon games kind of stink, but both primetime matchups at least look good on paper. But you're also missing a 5-0 team on a bye, a division leader, and a contender. But at least there's a bad team on a bye in Miami.

 

I would be hesitant to call a team that leads the league in both rush offense and rush defense a "bad team" (especially when you're 1-3 and have been playing from behind most games). They outplayed the Colts on MNF and didn't play too badly on the road in Atlanta or in San Diego. They certainly won't be a playoff team, and as tough as their schedule has been so far it doesn't get any easier, but I could still see them winning 7 or 8 games.

 

They are 1-3 and not a contender, I don't feel bad calling them a bad team.

[CubbieBum]

hahah that dre bly play might MIGHT be funnier than orlovsky running out of the endzone last year

 

I fail to see how Bly's play is funny.

 

Ummm

 

I figured it was a fairly obvious joke. I'm a 49ers fan so what Bly did isn't funny ... its infuriating.

[TruffleShuffle]

you are doing jokes/sarcasm wrong.

[CubbieBum]

you are doing jokes/sarcasm wrong.

 

Considering I had about 4 posts directly before IMB's post complaining about how stupid the play was I figured it would be obvious (and many others complaining about the 49ers in general). I was wrong.

[Sammy Sofa]

Better let www.thesarcasmknowitall.com go.

[Warpticon]

Tennessee might be a better team than 1/4 of the league, but that doesn't mean they'll win more games. They have a tough schedule this year, with no gimmes within the division.

 

There are also a LOT of bad teams this year. Oakland, KC, Buffalo, Cleveland, St. Louis, Tampa, Carolina, Detroit, Washington and Miami are all teams that have played terrible this year.

 

Call me a homer, but I definitely don't see Miami at the level of the rest of that bunch you've named. They've been in every game they've played, and their three losses are to teams with a combined 10-3 record, all of which made the playoffs last year. It can be argued that they should have beaten Indy, and they were doing fine against SD until the Pennington injury followed almost immediately by a pick 6. They're first in the league in rushing and rushing defense. They're low ranked in pass defense, but they're playing two rookie corners and their first three games were against playoff teams with Pro Bowl quarterbacks. I'm not saying they're great by any means, but I wouldn't be betting on them ending up with a top 10 pick.

 

And regarding their assumed non-contention...if they win tonight, they'll be one game behind NE and NYJ for first in the AFC East, and 2-0 in division. Not in the driver's seat by any means, but certainly not an afterthought, either.

[CubColtPacer]

Tennessee might be a better team than 1/4 of the league, but that doesn't mean they'll win more games. They have a tough schedule this year, with no gimmes within the division.

 

There are also a LOT of bad teams this year. Oakland, KC, Buffalo, Cleveland, St. Louis, Tampa, Carolina, Detroit, Washington and Miami are all teams that have played terrible this year.

 

Call me a homer, but I definitely don't see Miami at the level of the rest of that bunch you've named. They've been in every game they've played, and their three losses are to teams with a combined 10-3 record, all of which made the playoffs last year. It can be argued that they should have beaten Indy, and they were doing fine against SD until the Pennington injury followed almost immediately by a pick 6. They're first in the league in rushing and rushing defense. They're low ranked in pass defense, but they're playing two rookie corners and their first three games were against playoff teams with Pro Bowl quarterbacks. I'm not saying they're great by any means, but I wouldn't be betting on them ending up with a top 10 pick.

 

And regarding their assumed non-contention...if they win tonight, they'll be one game behind NE and NYJ for first in the AFC East, and 2-0 in division. Not in the driver's seat by any means, but certainly not an afterthought, either.

 

I'd be interested to hear that argument from you or from ChiCubsfan (who said that Miami outplayed Indy in that game). I'm just curious on the reasons for that.

 

I certainly don't think Miami is a very bad team though. They definitely have a better idea of what they're doing than most of the teams on that list. Losing Pennington will hurt quite a bit as he was a great QB for that particular offense (his great accuracy kept the chains moving quite well when the running game couldn't generate first downs). Time will tell if they can replace him.

 

However, they are the type of team who could very well lose a lot of games they were in until the end so it is very hard to project their record. They're not one of the gimmes, but they're so limited that they're one of the less dangerous teams in the league.

[Warpticon]

I'd be interested to hear that argument from you or from ChiCubsfan (who said that Miami outplayed Indy in that game). I'm just curious on the reasons for that.

 

There's not a lot to explain. Ted Ginn dropped a touchdown pass with seconds to go in the game. The coverage was solid, but if Ginn his hands like a normal person, the Dolphins take the lead with about 20 seconds to go. This in spite of the worst clock management I have ever seen in the final minutes of that game.

[CubColtPacer]

I'd be interested to hear that argument from you or from ChiCubsfan (who said that Miami outplayed Indy in that game). I'm just curious on the reasons for that.

 

There's not a lot to explain. Ted Ginn dropped a touchdown pass with seconds to go in the game. The coverage was solid, but if Ginn his hands like a normal person, the Dolphins take the lead with about 20 seconds to go. This in spite of the worst clock management I have ever seen in the final minutes of that game.

 

That's true. Although I do think you're being a little hard on Ginn..that was a tough catch for all but the best jump ball receivers, and Ginn is certainly not used to having to be in a jump ball situation. But I definitely agree that Miami was very close to winning that game.

 

I do hope the Dolphins figure it out though (which is almost heretical for a Colts fan to say even after all these years). It's fun to have a very different type of philosophy in the NFL.

[Soul]

Impressive drive, especially punching it in right through the jets' dline

[EricG]

the fins jerseys look almost red.

[shnsajax]

imagine if Ricky Williams actually tried to be a great RB in the NFL for the past 10 years.

[Soul]

Figures Edwards would be good suddenly after leaving Cleveland.

[OleMissCub]

HELL of a throw

[Soul]

That was triple coverage Ginn blew by.

[OleMissCub]

Does anyone else think that the NFL should use College's penalty for pass interference. A spot foul is super harsh on those heaves down the field.

[Guest]

Does anyone else think that the NFL should use College's penalty for pass interference. A spot foul is super harsh on those heaves down the field.

 

It is a bit excessive. But more importantly, I think the NFL should look into calling pass interference when, you know, it actually happens.

[dew1679666265]

Does anyone else think that the NFL should use College's penalty for pass interference. A spot foul is super harsh on those heaves down the field.

 

The problem with that is, if a corner is clearly beaten, but close enough, he can just shove down the receiver and take a 15 yard penalty instead of a 60 yard completion. It's kind of the same idea as holding - if a guy is beaten, just hang onto the receiver and take the penalty.

[dew1679666265]

Does anyone else think that the NFL should use College's penalty for pass interference. A spot foul is super harsh on those heaves down the field.

 

It is a bit excessive. But more importantly, I think the NFL should look into calling pass interference when, you know, it actually happens.

 

Correct.

[OleMissCub]

Does anyone else think that the NFL should use College's penalty for pass interference. A spot foul is super harsh on those heaves down the field.

 

The problem with that is, if a corner is clearly beaten, but close enough, he can just shove down the receiver and take a 15 yard penalty instead of a 60 yard completion. It's kind of the same idea as holding - if a guy is beaten, just hang onto the receiver and take the penalty.

 

very good point

[CubColtPacer]

Does anyone else think that the NFL should use College's penalty for pass interference. A spot foul is super harsh on those heaves down the field.

 

There are problems both ways. If they played college rules, any corner that is beat in the NFL on one of those deep balls would just dive and tackle the receiver and take the 15 yards.

 

I like the way the NFL does it. Sure, it causes some large field position changes when the calls are questionable. But only having 15 yards is sometimes a reward for defenses when the receiver was likely to catch the pass without the interference. If it's close, I'd rather go with the way that is going to cause less penalty flags in the first place, and the harsh punishment does that.

 

Edit: And I see I am very late on that point. Sorry about that.