Awards Discussion

[OleMissCub]

NL

 

MVP: Fat Albert

CY: Adam Wainwright (although I think Lincecum is better, voters love high win totals)

ROY: Chris Coghlan (homer pick, Happ is more likely to win it)

MOY: Jim Tracy (Rox have gone 71-40 since he took over)

 

AL

 

MVP: Joe Mauer

CY: Grienke

ROY: Andrew Bailey

MOY: Girardi

[Derwood]

is this who we think SHOULD win, or who we think WILL win?

[OleMissCub]

is this who we think SHOULD win, or who we think WILL win?

 

whichever you want, I guess

[ELCABALLO45]

NL

 

MVP - Pujols

CY - Lincecum

ROY - Happ

MNG - Tracey

 

AL

 

MVP - Mauer

CY - Grienke

ROY - Bailey

MNG - Scioscia

[Post Count Padder]

NL MVP: Pujols

NL CY: Lincecum

NL ROY: Happ

NL Manager: Torre

 

AL MVP: Mauer

AL CY: Grienke

AL ROY: Reimold

AL Manager: Sciocia

[rocket]

who will win the awards seems a lot more obvious this year than last year.

[sweetpeteman]

NL

MYP: Pujols

CY: Lincecum

ROY: Happ

MOY: Riggleman... ha, probably Tracy

 

 

 

AL:

MVP: THE CAPTAIN... will probably win it because voters are stupid, but Mauer should.

CY: Greinke.

ROY: Bailey

MOY: Scioscia

[Careless]

is this who we think SHOULD win, or who we think WILL win?

 

whichever you want, I guess

If you're doing it that way, people should make it clear which answer they're giving

[laurens]

I fear Derek Jeter is going to win AL MVP, even though he's only half the baseball player Mauer has been this year. Come on, his OPS is .2 lower than Mauers. He's not even the best player on the Yankees. He's not even the best SS on the Yankees.

[Tim M]

I hate the Cards as much as much anybody but I think both Carpenter and Wainwright deserve it over Lincecum.

[Derwood]

I hate the Cards as much as much anybody but I think both Carpenter and Wainwright deserve it over Lincecum.

 

based on?

[laurens]

I hate the Cards as much as much anybody but I think both Carpenter and Wainwright deserve it over Lincecum.

 

Carp and Wainwright are both very good pitchers, but Lincecum is just plain dominating almost every time he goes out there. Too bad his run support is close to nonexistent. If he were on the Cardinals, his record would be better than Wainwright's.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Carpenter and Wainwright each have a 5.5 WAR. Lincecum is at 8.

[nwg414]

I hate the Cards as much as much anybody but I think both Carpenter and Wainwright deserve it over Lincecum.

 

Carp and Wainwright are both very good pitchers, but Lincecum is just plain dominating almost every time he goes out there. Too bad his run support is close to nonexistent. If he were on the Cardinals, his record would be better than Wainwright's.

 

I always thought this as well because it is always used in Lincecums defense but he actually has better run support than Carpenter. Lincecum should win though.

 

Carpenter - 4.3 runs

Lincecum - 4.6 runs

Wainwright - 5.1 runs

[OleMissCub]

As far as NL ROY goes, it's up in the air now alot more than I would have thought a month or two ago.

 

Happ and Hanson are nearly identical:

 

Hanson:

21 GS | 11-4 W-L | 2.89 ERA | 144 ERA+ | 1.18 WHIP | 127.2 IP | 116 K | 46 BB

 

Happ:

22 GS | 10-4 W-L | 2.91 ERA | 147 ERA+ | 1.24 WHIP | 142.1 IP | 101 K | 46 BB

 

 

If voters are split between those two guys, there might be enough votes for Chris Coghlan to sneak in somehow.

 

Coghlan leads the majors in hits (107) and the NL in average (.368) since the All-Star break. For the season, he leads all rookies in average (.318) and OBP (.387).

[rocket]

I fear Derek Jeter is going to win AL MVP, even though he's only half the baseball player Mauer has been this year. Come on, his OPS is .2 lower than Mauers. He's not even the best player on the Yankees. He's not even the best SS on the Yankees.

 

mauer should and will win it. but jeter winning it wouldn't be near the tragedy you're making it out to be.

[DiamondMind]

NL...

MYP: pujols

CY: wainwright

ROY: happ

MOY: tracy

 

btw, this is why I'm fairly sure the cardinals will make the WS, if not win it. they have the mvp and cy young. top players (cliche warning) usually step up in october.

 

AL...

MVP: m cabrera

CY: greinke

ROY: bailey

MOY: girardi

 

none of the al winners are especially great this year, eh?

[SouthSideRyan]

I have no idea how somebody could consider Miguel Cabrera more valuable than Joe Mauer.

[ELCABALLO45]

As far as NL ROY goes, it's up in the air now alot more than I would have thought a month or two ago.

 

Happ and Hanson are nearly identical:

 

Hanson:

21 GS | 11-4 W-L | 2.89 ERA | 144 ERA+ | 1.18 WHIP | 127.2 IP | 116 K | 46 BB

 

Happ:

22 GS | 10-4 W-L | 2.91 ERA | 147 ERA+ | 1.24 WHIP | 142.1 IP | 101 K | 46 BB

 

 

If voters are split between those two guys, there might be enough votes for Chris Coghlan to sneak in somehow.

 

Coghlan leads the majors in hits (107) and the NL in average (.368) since the All-Star break. For the season, he leads all rookies in average (.318) and OBP (.387).

 

Coghlan v. McGehee

 

BA

 

CC - .317

CM - .301

 

OBP

 

CC - .387

CM - .361

 

SLG

 

CC - .455

CM - .501

 

OPS

 

CC - .842

CM - .862

 

Home Runs

 

CC - 9

CM - 16

 

RBI's

 

CC - 45

CM - 66

 

I think the award should go to Happ but McGehee is right up there with Coghlan.

[illiniguy]

I fear Derek Jeter is going to win AL MVP, even though he's only half the baseball player Mauer has been this year. Come on, his OPS is .2 lower than Mauers. He's not even the best player on the Yankees. He's not even the best SS on the Yankees.

 

mauer should and will win it. but jeter winning it wouldn't be near the tragedy you're making it out to be.

Derek Jeter isn't the most valuable player on his own team, that would be Mark Teixeira.

[Schwarber Fan]

I give the NL ROY to Garrett Jones just for the numbers he put up in limited ML time.

 

And screw Couglan and anything Marlin related.

[shnsajax]

I just saw how high Coughlan raised his BA from the middle of the season.

 

After the Allstar Break: .368/.420/.542/.962

[TruffleShuffle]

I fear Derek Jeter is going to win AL MVP, even though he's only half the baseball player Mauer has been this year. Come on, his OPS is .2 lower than Mauers. He's not even the best player on the Yankees. He's not even the best SS on the Yankees.

 

mauer should and will win it. but jeter winning it wouldn't be near the tragedy you're making it out to be.

 

agreed. i don't like the yankees at all but jeter has been outstanding this season, and if he wins it over mauer, i'll just consider that an evening of the score from when morneau undeservedly beat out jeter in 2006.

 

i think jeter's career has taken a path where he was really overrated because of the rings, batting average, leadership crap and the announcer ass-kissing of him, and people overlooked his lousy defense. then most people realized that his defense sucked and he had a couple of down years, to the point where now i feel like he's underrated. he's not the best player in the game but he's really damn good and has been for 15 years.

[17 Seconds]

i'd give the cy young to lincecum, haren, vazquez, and carpenter before wainwright.

[SouthSideRyan]

I fear Derek Jeter is going to win AL MVP, even though he's only half the baseball player Mauer has been this year. Come on, his OPS is .2 lower than Mauers. He's not even the best player on the Yankees. He's not even the best SS on the Yankees.

 

mauer should and will win it. but jeter winning it wouldn't be near the tragedy you're making it out to be.

 

agreed. i don't like the yankees at all but jeter has been outstanding this season, and if he wins it over mauer, i'll just consider that an evening of the score from when morneau undeservedly beat out jeter in 2006.

 

 

Mauer should've won it in '06.