Gorzelanny fan club #1.

[jersey cubs fan]

What happens to him when Ted comes off the DL? We can't have 3 LHP in the pen, can we?

 

Assuming Lou won't part with Heilman, we run into a bad situation in which Stevens probably goes back to Iowa. That's what I'd think, anyway. Either way, I'd imagine Gorz would stay up, right?

 

I would assume Gorz would go down. It will only be 11-16 days until September 1st and Gorz would be unavailable for the first 3-4 of those. It will probably depend on how the bullpen has been used the previous few days though and how much the Cubs need fresh arms.

 

Either way I don't think it's a bad situation because the timeframe will be so short before the Cubs will get everybody back from Iowa.

 

When Lilly comes back I'd like to see them go with a 6-man rotation if only to get Harden some extra rest going into the stretch.

[C.C.]

What happens to him when Ted comes off the DL? We can't have 3 LHP in the pen, can we?

 

Assuming Lou won't part with Heilman, we run into a bad situation in which Stevens probably goes back to Iowa. That's what I'd think, anyway. Either way, I'd imagine Gorz would stay up, right?

 

I would assume Gorz would go down. It will only be 11-16 days until September 1st and Gorz would be unavailable for the first 3-4 of those. It will probably depend on how the bullpen has been used the previous few days though and how much the Cubs need fresh arms.

 

Either way I don't think it's a bad situation because the timeframe will be so short before the Cubs will get everybody back from Iowa.

 

When Lilly comes back I'd like to see them go with a 6-man rotation if only to get Harden some extra rest going into the stretch.

 

Makes too much sense.

[soapy]

When Lilly comes back I'd like to see them go with a 6-man rotation if only to get Harden some extra rest going into the stretch.

If Gorzelanny is pitching well, I might be for that but I can't imagine Lou/Hendry doing it.

[jersey cubs fan]

When Lilly comes back I'd like to see them go with a 6-man rotation if only to get Harden some extra rest going into the stretch.

If Gorzelanny is pitching well, I might be for that but I can't imagine Lou/Hendry doing it.

 

Well, they were all about extra rest for Harden last year, and I believe they even had a 6-man rotation for a brief time. If the second half of August isn't the time, when is?

[haubrich91]

It'd be nice to give the entire rotation rest. You want to limit Wells' innings just in case we don't give him the DB treatment. Just make sure everyone's arm is as healthy as it can get heading into the stretch run.

 

It'll be interesting to see what Jim and Lou decide.

[dew1679666265]

When Lilly comes back I'd like to see them go with a 6-man rotation if only to get Harden some extra rest going into the stretch.

If Gorzelanny is pitching well, I might be for that but I can't imagine Lou/Hendry doing it.

 

Well, they were all about extra rest for Harden last year, and I believe they even had a 6-man rotation for a brief time. If the second half of August isn't the time, when is?

 

I would really like the 6-man rotation idea.

[moorecg]

What happens to him when Ted comes off the DL? We can't have 3 LHP in the pen, can we?

 

Assuming Lou won't part with Heilman, we run into a bad situation in which Stevens probably goes back to Iowa. That's what I'd think, anyway. Either way, I'd imagine Gorz would stay up, right?

 

I would assume Gorz would go down. It will only be 11-16 days until September 1st and Gorz would be unavailable for the first 3-4 of those. It will probably depend on how the bullpen has been used the previous few days though and how much the Cubs need fresh arms.

 

Either way I don't think it's a bad situation because the timeframe will be so short before the Cubs will get everybody back from Iowa.

 

 

 

When Lilly comes back I'd like to see them go with a 6-man rotation if only to get Harden some extra rest going into the stretch.

 

+1 I was thinking the same thing...with this long stretch with very few off days, if he proves to be a solid arm in the rotation, it can't hurt at all to give everyone an extra day of rest down the stretch.

[Atta Boy]

The way this season is going, Gorz will stay on the roster to replace whoever gets hurt the day before Lilly gets activated.

[biggers car]

What happens to him when Ted comes off the DL? We can't have 3 LHP in the pen, can we?

 

Assuming Lou won't part with Heilman, we run into a bad situation in which Stevens probably goes back to Iowa. That's what I'd think, anyway. Either way, I'd imagine Gorz would stay up, right?

 

I would assume Gorz would go down. It will only be 11-16 days until September 1st and Gorz would be unavailable for the first 3-4 of those. It will probably depend on how the bullpen has been used the previous few days though and how much the Cubs need fresh arms.

 

Either way I don't think it's a bad situation because the timeframe will be so short before the Cubs will get everybody back from Iowa.

 

 

 

When Lilly comes back I'd like to see them go with a 6-man rotation if only to get Harden some extra rest going into the stretch.

 

+1 I was thinking the same thing...with this long stretch with very few off days, if he proves to be a solid arm in the rotation, it can't hurt at all to give everyone an extra day of rest down the stretch.

 

With the Cubs in a dog fight here on out i would not change a thing with the rotation. Pitchers are not use to a six man rotation and it might hurt their performance. Here is the stats of all the starts with extra days rest.

 

Carlos

I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+

4 Days,GS 130 3585 3126 313 672 124 10 62 21 26 374 721 1.93 .215 .306 .321 .627 1002 77 42 34 9 18 .259 87

5 Days,GS 68 1866 1624 243 424 89 14 46 12 12 188 365 1.94 .261 .344 .418 .762 679 38 22 22 10 9 .309 126

6+ Days,GS 29 766 646 62 130 28 3 13 5 4 90 163 1.81 .201 .306 .314 .621 203 13 11 12 7 5 .245 85

 

Ted

I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+

4 Days,GS 139 3436 3071 397 750 172 10 121 67 23 301 698 2.32 .244 .315 .425 .740 1305 53 25 22 17 8 .277 99

5 Days,GS 62 1552 1394 201 356 72 8 64 31 6 128 304 2.38 .255 .319 .456 .775 636 17 8 10 12 11 .281 108

6+ Days,GS 44 1067 960 124 228 53 5 29 19 4 83 207 2.49 .238 .303 .394 .697 378 8 10 7 7 2 .272 88

 

Ryan

I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+

4 Days,GS 107 2879 2497 351 660 138 20 73 31 37 303 554 1.83 .264 .348 .423 .772 1057 62 29 32 18 9 .311 102

5 Days,GS 75 2092 1788 242 458 86 14 49 24 8 251 373 1.49 .256 .352 .402 .754 719 45 21 17 15 14 .296 98

6+ Days,GS 28 718 622 104 176 34 6 25 8 5 74 145 1.96 .283 .360 .477 .837 297 15 6 6 10 4 .327 119

 

Randy

I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+

4 Days,GS 9 236 223 16 54 4 0 6 3 1 11 36 3.27 .242 .280 .341 .620 76 9 1 0 1 1 .264 97

5 Days,GS 3 77 68 11 21 3 0 3 3 1 5 10 2.00 .309 .360 .485 .845 33 3 1 2 1 0 .321 167

6+ Days,GS 4 97 87 5 19 3 1 0 0 1 7 19 2.71 .218 .289 .276 .565 24 4 2 0 1 0 .275 81

 

Rich

I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+

4 Days,GS 63 1553 1371 163 318 55 6 36 21 14 154 377 2.45 .232 .313 .360 .672 493 23 11 9 8 7 .292 108

5 Days,GS 31 778 686 81 149 25 4 21 12 8 78 197 2.53 .217 .297 .357 .655 245 17 2 8 4 3 .271 102

6+ Days,GS 25 577 503 46 101 22 1 9 5 3 66 139 2.11 .201 .291 .302 .593 152 14 0 3 5 4 .256 84

 

Tom

I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+

4 Days,GS 29 762 668 90 189 52 1 14 17 7 76 113 1.49 .283 .358 .427 .785 285 15 6 5 7 2 .319 103

5 Days,GS 25 626 539 77 140 25 2 22 16 2 68 87 1.28 .260 .348 .436 .784 235 16 7 8 4 1 .272 103

6+ Days,GS 12 293 252 37 65 14 3 6 4 2 28 50 1.79 .258 .332 .409 .741 103 8 4 1 8 2 .289 92

 

Some of the numbers are small sample size but the idea that a 6-man rotation is a great idea is not.

[jersey cubs fan]

Some of the numbers are small sample size but the idea that a 6-man rotation is a great idea is not.

 

Harden absolutely needs the extra rest. I don't think they need to go 6-man from here on out, but a couple weeks of giving a couple guys some extra rest is more than reasonable.

[biggers car]

Some of the numbers are small sample size but the idea that a 6-man rotation is a great idea is not.

 

Harden absolutely needs the extra rest. I don't think they need to go 6-man from here on out, but a couple weeks of giving a couple guys some extra rest is more than reasonable.

 

 

I would agree with you on that. Harden at 100% in the playoffs if the Cubs make it is a bonus. :beg:

[soapy]

Some of the numbers are small sample size but the idea that a 6-man rotation is a great idea is not.

 

Harden absolutely needs the extra rest. I don't think they need to go 6-man from here on out, but a couple weeks of giving a couple guys some extra rest is more than reasonable.

 

Right. I wouldn't go with a 6-man for the remainder of the year, but it's a good oppurtunity to give some guys some extra rest in late August/early September. They wouldn't even have to go with strictly rotating six men in order but maybe just let a guy skip a start here or there. Maybe let Zambrano, Wells, Dempster and Harden each skip one start or something (with Gorzelanny taking their spot). I'd have to look closer at the schedule to see how this might work out time-wise, but it might be worth exploring.

 

But all of this is assuming, a) Lilly comes back healthy; b) someone else doesn't go down with an injury; and c) Gorzelanny doesn't crap the bed.

[Keener98]

Some of the numbers are small sample size but the idea that a 6-man rotation is a great idea is not.

 

Harden absolutely needs the extra rest. I don't think they need to go 6-man from here on out, but a couple weeks of giving a couple guys some extra rest is more than reasonable.

 

 

I think I would rather just give Harden some extra rest here and there then go to a 6-man. The one blessing to the injuries that Lilly and Dempster had is they should be pretty rested for the stretch run. Im worried Wells may hit a wall here soon, and I wouldnt be opposed to giving him some extra rest as well. They definately need to monitor Harden and Wells pretty closely from here on out.

[soapy]

when is Lilly expected back?

[Keener98]

when is Lilly expected back?

 

I think 3 more starts so 2 weeks or so?

[jersey cubs fan]

I think I would rather just give Harden some extra rest here and there then go to a 6-man.

 

The problem is you almost have to use 6-men to get him extra rest. This time through he can go on 1 extra day of rest with the normal 5. But the next time he'll have to go on 4 days rest again unless somebody else pitches in between. Then, he'll have to go on 4 days rest again. And then there's the risk of somebody else needing a day off or two. I'm not saying go to a strict 6-man rotation, but rather keep a 6th starter around to slot into some starts here and there when needed.

[Keener98]

I think I would rather just give Harden some extra rest here and there then go to a 6-man.

 

The problem is you almost have to use 6-men to get him extra rest. This time through he can go on 1 extra day of rest with the normal 5. But the next time he'll have to go on 4 days rest again unless somebody else pitches in between. Then, he'll have to go on 4 days rest again. And then there's the risk of somebody else needing a day off or two. I'm not saying go to a strict 6-man rotation, but rather keep a 6th starter around to slot into some starts here and there when needed.

 

 

Yea I understand what you are saying. If Gorzo can pitch anywhere near like last night its not a bad idea.

[NCCubFan]

when is Lilly expected back?

 

I think 3 more starts so 2 weeks or so?

I think 2 more starts. At the time of the injury it was said he was expected to miss 4 starts total, and I believe he's already missed 2 of those.

[Donbedouin]

Having a little extra rest is not only needed for Harden, but Zambrano too. The last couple years he's had struggles in August, whether that's a dead arm or just a coincidence I don't know. But it's something to keep in mind

[soapy]

Having a little extra rest is not only needed for Harden, but Zambrano too. The last couple years he's had struggles in August, whether that's a dead arm or just a coincidence I don't know. But it's something to keep in mind

I'd say Zambrano, Wells and Harden are all guys that could benefit from a little extra rest.