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Harden absolutely needs the extra rest. I don't think they need to go 6-man from here on out, but a couple weeks of giving a couple guys some extra rest is more than reasonable. I would agree with you on that. Harden at 100% in the playoffs if the Cubs make it is a bonus. :beg:

Assuming Lou won't part with Heilman, we run into a bad situation in which Stevens probably goes back to Iowa. That's what I'd think, anyway. Either way, I'd imagine Gorz would stay up, right? I would assume Gorz would go down. It will only be 11-16 days until September 1st and Gorz would be unavailable for the first 3-4 of those. It will probably depend on how the bullpen has been used the previous few days though and how much the Cubs need fresh arms. Either way I don't think it's a bad situation because the timeframe will be so short before the Cubs will get everybody back from Iowa. When Lilly comes back I'd like to see them go with a 6-man rotation if only to get Harden some extra rest going into the stretch. +1 I was thinking the same thing...with this long stretch with very few off days, if he proves to be a solid arm in the rotation, it can't hurt at all to give everyone an extra day of rest down the stretch. With the Cubs in a dog fight here on out i would not change a thing with the rotation. Pitchers are not use to a six man rotation and it might hurt their performance. Here is the stats of all the starts with extra days rest. Carlos I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+ 4 Days,GS 130 3585 3126 313 672 124 10 62 21 26 374 721 1.93 .215 .306 .321 .627 1002 77 42 34 9 18 .259 87 5 Days,GS 68 1866 1624 243 424 89 14 46 12 12 188 365 1.94 .261 .344 .418 .762 679 38 22 22 10 9 .309 126 6+ Days,GS 29 766 646 62 130 28 3 13 5 4 90 163 1.81 .201 .306 .314 .621 203 13 11 12 7 5 .245 85 Ted I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+ 4 Days,GS 139 3436 3071 397 750 172 10 121 67 23 301 698 2.32 .244 .315 .425 .740 1305 53 25 22 17 8 .277 99 5 Days,GS 62 1552 1394 201 356 72 8 64 31 6 128 304 2.38 .255 .319 .456 .775 636 17 8 10 12 11 .281 108 6+ Days,GS 44 1067 960 124 228 53 5 29 19 4 83 207 2.49 .238 .303 .394 .697 378 8 10 7 7 2 .272 88 Ryan I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+ 4 Days,GS 107 2879 2497 351 660 138 20 73 31 37 303 554 1.83 .264 .348 .423 .772 1057 62 29 32 18 9 .311 102 5 Days,GS 75 2092 1788 242 458 86 14 49 24 8 251 373 1.49 .256 .352 .402 .754 719 45 21 17 15 14 .296 98 6+ Days,GS 28 718 622 104 176 34 6 25 8 5 74 145 1.96 .283 .360 .477 .837 297 15 6 6 10 4 .327 119 Randy I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+ 4 Days,GS 9 236 223 16 54 4 0 6 3 1 11 36 3.27 .242 .280 .341 .620 76 9 1 0 1 1 .264 97 5 Days,GS 3 77 68 11 21 3 0 3 3 1 5 10 2.00 .309 .360 .485 .845 33 3 1 2 1 0 .321 167 6+ Days,GS 4 97 87 5 19 3 1 0 0 1 7 19 2.71 .218 .289 .276 .565 24 4 2 0 1 0 .275 81 Rich I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+ 4 Days,GS 63 1553 1371 163 318 55 6 36 21 14 154 377 2.45 .232 .313 .360 .672 493 23 11 9 8 7 .292 108 5 Days,GS 31 778 686 81 149 25 4 21 12 8 78 197 2.53 .217 .297 .357 .655 245 17 2 8 4 3 .271 102 6+ Days,GS 25 577 503 46 101 22 1 9 5 3 66 139 2.11 .201 .291 .302 .593 152 14 0 3 5 4 .256 84 Tom I Split G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR SB CS BB SO SO/BB BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB BAbip tOPS+ 4 Days,GS 29 762 668 90 189 52 1 14 17 7 76 113 1.49 .283 .358 .427 .785 285 15 6 5 7 2 .319 103 5 Days,GS 25 626 539 77 140 25 2 22 16 2 68 87 1.28 .260 .348 .436 .784 235 16 7 8 4 1 .272 103 6+ Days,GS 12 293 252 37 65 14 3 6 4 2 28 50 1.79 .258 .332 .409 .741 103 8 4 1 8 2 .289 92 Some of the numbers are small sample size but the idea that a 6-man rotation is a great idea is not.

Maybe closer have problems with former teams? Kerry Wood vs Cubs JUN 19 @CHC 0 0 4.81 1 0 0 0 0 1 1.0 1 1 1 1 1 0 19-9 0-3 JUN 20 @CHC 0 1 5.47 1 0 0 0 0 1 0.1 3 2 2 0 0 1 18-8 0-0 Kevin Gregg @FLA 1 0 3.83 1 0 0 0 0 1 1.0 4 3 3 1 0 2 38-25 1-0 AUG 02 @FLA 0 1 4.17 1 0 0 0 0 1 0.1 2 2 2 2 0 0 9-5 0-1

I think players like to bunt to improve the team chances to win, even if the manager don't call for a bunt.

This is the old argument. Start new or try to win every year. I like both but at times you can't have both. We all can go back and see the Cubs making bad trades or bad contract signings, but for the last ten years or so the Cubs have been trying to win the big one. Maybe trying to start new is something the Cubs can't afford to do? With the White Sox and other teams close to Chicago losing fan base is something the Cubs can't do.

Just a question but how many teams product superstars for years on years? I give you Yankees, Boston, and Dodgers but off the top of my head thats got to be it? No, that's not it. There are many more teams that consistently produce major league talent year after year. Tampa has a great track record at this point, and they aren't close to being done. Even with all the talent they have produced already, they are still miles ahead of the Cubs in talent still in the minors. The Cubs biggest issue has been the constant change in philosophy and/or complete ignorance in what is needed to produce major league talent. Hendry still needs to be fired yesterday. He needed to be fired yesterday a few years ago. Tampa also had top pick after top pick after top pick in every draft. Its also took now 10 years for them to finally accumulate this talent into a playoff team. To add to this the cubs are closer to the title then Rays are. Having future stars means nothing now....

Just a question but how many teams product superstars for years on years? I give you Yankees, Boston, and Dodgers but off the top of my head thats got to be it?

Players bunt on their own all the time it might be on the player and not the manager :thumbsup:

Sandberg believes strongly in small ball and being aggressive. Bunt runners over, hit and run, straight steals, manufacturing runs, playing the game the right way. Oooooh, I LOOOVE running-into-outs-ball A couple of weeks ago he had his #3 hitter sac bunt with a runner on first and second and no outs, IN THE FIRST INNING. Case closed, he shouldn't be managing the Cubs. If a player sac bunt do that always mean a manager told him to. Maybe the player did it on his own?

I would think that his wife being 8 months pregnant would be when he'd be most likely to sleep with someone else. I think it makes him more weak than a douchebag. Either way it's not good. I wonder if Hendry will try to trade him now. I was bartending and a regular info me that she was sleeping with Ozzie Guillen. I question her but she gave me a photo of her and him in a bed together. So the other day in the car with my wife news was that Ozzie was going out of town to be with his wife because her father die I made a statement and my wife and she was really bad. So all I can say is it happens all the time. :beee:

That play by kosuke last nite, not to get to it is one thing but to dive and let it get behind you is another. If he play it right it was a single to start the inning not a double. And then Fontent swinging at a 2-0 pitch up and in what was he going to do with that pitch. The pitch has been in trouble wait for your pitch not swing at pitchers pitch. Many times this year I think the Cubs are one of the dumbest teams maybe because their losing but when your team is injure smart teams make fewer mistakes.

As being a African-American i find it funny how people say that a person is using the race card. Blacks or others dont like using the race card. Another thing being a Cubs fan I get a lot of u should be a White Sox fan since ur black.. Believe it or not racism is still out their. One thing i want to say is i dont think every person is racism but the one out there leave a bad taste in ur mouth. Go Cubs in 08!!!!!!!