Tony Pena Jr is no more

[inari]

http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090716&content_id=5896282&vkey=news_kc&fext=.jsp&c_id=kc

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/penato02.sht

 

His OPS+ for the past three seasons; 66, 7, -32. Unbelievable that he's lasted this long. The Royals savior will be Yuniesky Betancourt. The fact that he's a significant upgrade over Pena doesn't mean that he's not terrible himself.

[Drew Doughty]

RIP tony

[SouthSideRyan]

This makes a new rule of 3 with Damian Jackson and Lou Merloni.

[High Mileage]

I hope he gets a look as a pitcher...

[TruffleShuffle]

his 2008 was one of my favorite seasons ever. .169/.189/.209 is really bad but understandable after like 2 weeks of the season... maybe you just start off with a slump. but i'd like to know how many players have put up an OPS under .400 with more than 200 ABs. that really has to be one of the worst offensive seasons in history.

[TruffleShuffle]

also i would like to know what the hell he is doing

[High Mileage]

also i would like to know what the hell he is doing

 

He broke a bone in his hand on a defensive play the inning before. He had to stay in the game because Miguel Olivo was the only guy left on the bench.

[OleMissCub]

also i would like to know what the hell he is doing

 

he's just honoring this guy:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAMl5guWVd4

[Vanilla Ice]

Bill Bergen had 3228 plate appearances in his career and his career OPS was .395. Pena has quite a way to go

[kujay]

I have several friends who are diehard Royals fans (I think they are the only ones), and they are done with Dayton Moore after this trade. I'm just wondering why it was this one that put them over the top.

[Guest]

Bill Bergen had 3228 plate appearances in his career and his career OPS was .395. Pena has quite a way to go

 

Out of curiosity, how did you find that?

 

And that guy was amazingly bad. A high OPS of .518 for an OPS+ of 41.

 

Year    Age    Tm    Lg   G   PA   AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS OPS+  TB GDP HBP  SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1901    23    CIN    NL  87  326  308  15  55  6  4  1  17  2     8    .179 .199 .234 .433   29  72       0  10          2       
1902    24    CIN    NL  89  342  322  19  58  8  3  0  36  2    14    .180 .214 .224 .438   30  72       0   6          2       
1903    25    CIN    NL  58  218  207  21  47  4  2  0  19  2     7    .227 .252 .266 .518   41  55       0   4          2       
1904    26    BRO    NL  96  347  329  17  60  4  2  0  12  3     9    .182 .204 .207 .411   28  68       0   9        2/3       
1905    27    BRO    NL  79  265  247  12  47  3  2  0  22  4     7    .190 .213 .219 .431   32  54       0  11          2       
1906    28    BRO    NL 103  372  353   9  56  3  3  0  19  2     7    .159 .175 .184 .359   16  65       0  12         *2       
1907    29    BRO    NL  51  143  138   2  22  3  0  0  14  1     1    .159 .165 .181 .347   12  25       0   4          2       
1908    30    BRO    NL  99  320  302   8  53  8  2  0  15  1     5    .175 .189 .215 .404   31  65       0  13          2       
1909    31    BRO    NL 112  372  346  16  48  1  1  1  15  4    10    .139 .163 .156 .319    1  54       0  16         *2       
1910    32    BRO    NL  89  273  249  11  40  2  1  0  14  0     6 39 .161 .180 .177 .357    6  44       0  18          2       
1911    33    BRO    NL  84  250  227   8  30  3  1  0  10  2    14 42 .132 .183 .154 .337   -4  35       0   9          2       
Career                  947 3228 3028 138 516 45 21  2 193 23    88 81 .170 .194 .201 .395   21 609       0 112

 

Absolutely amazing.

[WreckingMachine]

Dayton Moore sucks, but that Jack Z is going to be robbing a lot of people. Those acquisitions of Branyan, Aardsma, etc. were ridiculous. The President of Seattle may have saved his job with that hiring alone. I'd expect the Mariners to be consistent 80+ win teams as long as Jack Z is there and I think they'll sneak into the ALCS within the next few years.

[Coach C]

I'm just suprised that it took the Royals this long to do this.....

[OleMissCub]

That Bergen guy is bad, but check this fool out:

 

John Gochnauer: .187/.258/.240, 46 OPS+

 

but amazingly his bat wasn't the worst part. In 134 games as the shortstop for Cleveland he made....wait for it....98 errors. The year before he made 48 errors.

[sneakypower]

word is Zduriencik was close to acquiring Edwin Jackson and Zobrist in seperate trades over the winter too

[Post Count Padder]

How bout Bobby Wine and his sparkling career OPS+ of 55?

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/winebo01.shtml

[OleMissCub]

How bout Bobby Wine and his sparkling career OPS+ of 55?

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/winebo01.shtml

 

He won a GG so he probably was a decent defensive player at least. I believe that Bergen guy, who was a catcher, was awful defensively.

[Vanilla Ice]

Bill Bergen had 3228 plate appearances in his career and his career OPS was .395. Pena has quite a way to go

 

Out of curiosity, how did you find that?

 

And that guy was amazingly bad. A high OPS of .518 for an OPS+ of 41.

 

Year    Age    Tm    Lg   G   PA   AB   R   H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO   BA  OBP  SLG  OPS OPS+  TB GDP HBP  SH SF IBB Pos Awards
1901    23    CIN    NL  87  326  308  15  55  6  4  1  17  2     8    .179 .199 .234 .433   29  72       0  10          2       
1902    24    CIN    NL  89  342  322  19  58  8  3  0  36  2    14    .180 .214 .224 .438   30  72       0   6          2       
1903    25    CIN    NL  58  218  207  21  47  4  2  0  19  2     7    .227 .252 .266 .518   41  55       0   4          2       
1904    26    BRO    NL  96  347  329  17  60  4  2  0  12  3     9    .182 .204 .207 .411   28  68       0   9        2/3       
1905    27    BRO    NL  79  265  247  12  47  3  2  0  22  4     7    .190 .213 .219 .431   32  54       0  11          2       
1906    28    BRO    NL 103  372  353   9  56  3  3  0  19  2     7    .159 .175 .184 .359   16  65       0  12         *2       
1907    29    BRO    NL  51  143  138   2  22  3  0  0  14  1     1    .159 .165 .181 .347   12  25       0   4          2       
1908    30    BRO    NL  99  320  302   8  53  8  2  0  15  1     5    .175 .189 .215 .404   31  65       0  13          2       
1909    31    BRO    NL 112  372  346  16  48  1  1  1  15  4    10    .139 .163 .156 .319    1  54       0  16         *2       
1910    32    BRO    NL  89  273  249  11  40  2  1  0  14  0     6 39 .161 .180 .177 .357    6  44       0  18          2       
1911    33    BRO    NL  84  250  227   8  30  3  1  0  10  2    14 42 .132 .183 .154 .337   -4  35       0   9          2       
Career                  947 3228 3028 138 516 45 21  2 193 23    88 81 .170 .194 .201 .395   21 609       0 112

 

Absolutely amazing.

On the thread at Baseball Think Factory, somebody linked to his stats on BR

[NCCubFan]

How bout Bobby Wine and his sparkling career OPS+ of 55?

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/winebo01.shtml

The good ole days of Wine and Rojas. :D

[WreckingMachine]

I'd like to bring up Trey Hillman. Everyone that has payed attention to the Royals knows this guy is the ultimate failure at Bullpen Management. If you keep track, this guy has screwed up so many Lefty/Righty matchups where he obviously payed no attention to a hitter's or pither's splits.

 

But this weekend, the Royals were swept by the Rays. In all 3 games, Tampa Bay came from behind in the 8th to win it. In spite of these high leverage situations in all 3 games, Hillman didn't bring in Soria once.

 

I'm have no belief in a manager making an impact on a team, but this was an example of a manager costing his team 2 games.

[WreckingMachine]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/v-print/story/1332649.html

 

I suggest you read the article as it is a good read, but there is no way possible I can prepare you for what you are about to read from GMDM:

 

 

Moore says he hopes Hillman doesn’t change anything, because “Trey has the chance to be one of the very best baseball men in a generation.” He then mentions that Tony La Russa, Bobby Cox and Joe Torre each took harsh criticism early in their careers.

 

[illiniguy]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/v-print/story/1332649.html

 

I suggest you read the article as it is a good read, but there is no way possible I can prepare you for what you are about to read from GMDM:

 

 

Moore says he hopes Hillman doesn’t change anything, because “Trey has the chance to be one of the very best baseball men in a generation.” He then mentions that Tony La Russa, Bobby Cox and Joe Torre each took harsh criticism early in their careers.

Trey Hillman will be what ultimately costs Moore his job.

[loukycub]

i have nothing to contribute to this thread other than saying that seeing ryan smyth in an avs jersey is very painful knowing what could have been had he and the rest of the avs been healthy all of last year. and then what i have to look forward to the next few years out of denver.

 

sigh :(

[Drew Doughty]

i have nothing to contribute to this thread other than saying that seeing ryan smyth in an avs jersey is very painful knowing what could have been had he and the rest of the avs been healthy all of last year. and then what i have to look forward to the next few years out of denver.

 

sigh :(

 

just to make sure you're aware, that's tom preissing sliding on the ice behind him. have fun with that.

[Coach C]

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/royals/v-print/story/1332649.html

 

I suggest you read the article as it is a good read, but there is no way possible I can prepare you for what you are about to read from GMDM:

 

 

Moore says he hopes Hillman doesn’t change anything, because “Trey has the chance to be one of the very best baseball men in a generation.” He then mentions that Tony La Russa, Bobby Cox and Joe Torre each took harsh criticism early in their careers.

Trey Hillman will be what ultimately costs Moore his job.

 

Along with signing Jacobs, who have been just terrible. It's just frusterating to see a GM who highly speaks of OBP, yet goes get players that does not fit into the OBP mold that he is wanting to do.