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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season

 

Even next yr, Wells will still be at best a 4th starter (behind Z/Lilly and Dempster) so unless you get a good offer for Wells in the offseason, I keep Wells cause he would be a very solud #4.

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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season
As an ace, no. As a back of the rotation starter, yes. He's been pitching well long enough now to prove that it's not a fluke.
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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season

 

Even next yr, Wells will still be at best a 4th starter (behind Z/Lilly and Dempster) so unless you get a good offer for Wells in the offseason, I keep Wells cause he would be a very solud #4.

 

Yep, with the guys we have under contract, we'd be relying on Wells to be no more than a #4 starter.

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It would be pretty nice to sell high on Wells this offseason

 

I know it's because we've been burned by lots of players, but it's getting annoying that any time a young Cubs player has a stretch of success, people immediately say we should sell high.

 

Wells is under Cubs control for a long time at a cheap cost. His peripherals are relatively in line with his performance, so while it's almost certain that he's not a 3.00 ERA kind of guy, he's shown he can be a decent major league pitcher. League-average starting pitchers who make the league minimum are incredibly valuable commodities. Unless "selling high" means that he's part of a package that nets a superstar-type player, there's no reason to trade him.

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I strongly agree with Tyrant. Because although the Cubs will win the Series this year -- of that I have no doubt -- they do have contract issues in the future. Wells is better and cheaper than Marquis, for example, and it's imperative that a team consistently produce inexpensive, effective major league players. Go Cy Wells!
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Normally Wells would be the type of pitcher I would want us to sell high on in the offseason and use as a centerpiece of a significant upgrade. However, we have a lot of big contracts and will need cheap performance from somewhere. Because of that, it's probably best to keep Wells and pencil him in the back of the rotation.
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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season
As an ace, no. As a back of the rotation starter, yes. He's been pitching well long enough now to prove that it's not a fluke.

 

i remember hearing the same thing in regards to sonnanstine

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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season
As an ace, no. As a back of the rotation starter, yes. He's been pitching well long enough now to prove that it's not a fluke.

 

i remember hearing the same thing in regards to sonnanstine

 

When has Sonnanstine posted #'s similar to Wells this season, or pitched well long enough to prove that he wasn't a fluke? Through 130 ip's his rookie year he had an ERA over 2.5 points higher than Wells through 96 ip's so far.

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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season
As an ace, no. As a back of the rotation starter, yes. He's been pitching well long enough now to prove that it's not a fluke.

 

i remember hearing the same thing in regards to sonnanstine

 

When has Sonnanstine posted #'s similar to Wells this season, or pitched well long enough to prove that he wasn't a fluke? Through 130 ip's his rookie year he had an ERA over 2.5 points higher than Wells through 96 ip's so far.

 

he still hasn't had a chance to face teams multiple times, only atlanta and houston so far if i am correct

 

i will believe he is for real when he has quite a bit more starts under his belt

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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season
As an ace, no. As a back of the rotation starter, yes. He's been pitching well long enough now to prove that it's not a fluke.

 

i remember hearing the same thing in regards to sonnanstine

 

When has Sonnanstine posted #'s similar to Wells this season, or pitched well long enough to prove that he wasn't a fluke? Through 130 ip's his rookie year he had an ERA over 2.5 points higher than Wells through 96 ip's so far.

 

he still hasn't had a chance to face teams multiple times, only atlanta and houston so far if i am correct

 

i will believe he is for real when he has quite a bit more starts under his belt

 

I agree; however, what does that have to do with Sonnastine? He has never had success in MLB...

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no?

 

you don't call what he did on his lucky wave last year success?

 

all i am saying is that i see similarities in pitching styles between the two

 

i would love to be proven utterly wrong, but i believe if we go into next season relying on wells to help our team as a 4th or 5th starter, he will be exposed

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i would love to be proven utterly wrong

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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season
As an ace, no. As a back of the rotation starter, yes. He's been pitching well long enough now to prove that it's not a fluke.

 

 

So did Rich Hill

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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season
As an ace, no. As a back of the rotation starter, yes. He's been pitching well long enough now to prove that it's not a fluke.

 

 

So did Rich Hill

 

This is completely and totally subjective, but Rich always looked like he was about to hurl from nervousness when he was out there. I think he always a headcase waiting to happen. Wells looks and talks like he's confident, but realistic about himself. I don't think the situation is comparable.

 

Wells may fail in the long run, but I don't think it will be anything close to the Hill situation. And he certainly won't have come in with the Rich Hill hype.

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he has been solid, but i still contend that we shouldn't rely on him next season
As an ace, no. As a back of the rotation starter, yes. He's been pitching well long enough now to prove that it's not a fluke.

 

 

So did Rich Hill

 

This is completely and totally subjective, but Rich always looked like he was about to hurl from nervousness when he was out there. I think he always a headcase waiting to happen. Wells looks and talks like he's confident, but realistic about himself. I don't think the situation is comparable.

 

Wells may fail in the long run, but I don't think it will be anything close to the Hill situation. And he certainly won't have come in with the Rich Hill hype.

and he comes in with more of a variety of viable pitches

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This is completely and totally subjective, but Rich always looked like he was about to hurl from nervousness when he was out there. I think he always a headcase waiting to happen. Wells looks and talks like he's confident, but realistic about himself. I don't think the situation is comparable.

 

Yeah, I'm always wary of assessing players' psyches from afar, but I think it's pretty clear by now that Hill had some makeup issues that most players don't have. Wells seems like a pretty normal baseball player.

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So did Rich Hill

 

Putting the likelihood of Wells also contracting Rick Ankiel disease aside...

 

Hill 2006: 26 years old, 99.1 IP, 4.17 ERA, 1.22 WHIP, 90 K, 39 BB

Hill 2007: 27 years old, 195 IP, 3.92 ERA, 1.20 WHIP, 183 K, 63 BB

 

Wells 2009: 26 years old, 95 IP, 2.84 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 60 K, 21 BB

 

At the same point in their careers, Hill never pitched as well for as extended a period of time.

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