5/13 Padres (Young) @ Cubs (Lilly) 7:05 CSN

[Keener98]

so Lee can't play defense anymore either? what is the point of him?

 

Because he couldn't catch a blooper with his back to home plate in a swirling wind, he can't play defense anymore?

 

But yeah I believe the numbers say that he isn't the same defensive 1B as he was earlier in his career.

 

Also, am I the only one that still isn't willing to trash on Derrick Lee and feels somewhat confident he'll at least be a decent contributor this year? I'm actually more worried about Soto than I am Lee, today's home run aside.

 

 

No Lee offensively is done Im afraid. His bat is so slow its scary. He just isnt the same player, and part of that may be playing with a herniated disk, but I think hes done.

[woodchip2153]

PC thru 6 for Lilly?

 

83 according to gameday

 

Thanks.

 

Did you end up checking out that microfest deal?

 

nope, did you?

[mul21]

PC thru 6 for Lilly?

 

83 according to gameday

 

Thanks.

 

Did you end up checking out that microfest deal?

 

nope, did you?

 

No, too much other crap going on. Like preparing for the baby's 1st birthday when the whole fam damily will be in town. Our basement is still in shambles from flooding last year.

[Careless]

so Lee can't play defense anymore either? what is the point of him?

 

Also, am I the only one that still isn't willing to trash on Derrick Lee and feels somewhat confident he'll at least be a decent contributor this year? I'm actually more worried about Soto than I am Lee, today's home run aside.

I'm not very worried about Lee, but I could see him going either way on a .650 ops or an .850 without my being surprised. On the other hand, 850 for your 8 figure a year first baseman isn't good.

[UMFan83]

so Lee can't play defense anymore either? what is the point of him?

 

Because he couldn't catch a blooper with his back to home plate in a swirling wind, he can't play defense anymore?

 

But yeah I believe the numbers say that he isn't the same defensive 1B as he was earlier in his career.

 

Also, am I the only one that still isn't willing to trash on Derrick Lee and feels somewhat confident he'll at least be a decent contributor this year? I'm actually more worried about Soto than I am Lee, today's home run aside.

 

 

No Lee offensively is done Im afraid. His bat is so slow its scary. He just isnt the same player, and part of that may be playing with a herniated disk, but I think hes done.

 

See I remember people commenting on how amazingly slow Edmonds' bat was when we first signed him and he struggled, but then he ended up hitting 20 HRs for us and had a pretty good offensive season. Lee is 33 and while he is old enough to be declining, I don't feel like he's at all old enough to be completely washed up. I would be willing to bet at some point this year he'll have a halfway decent stretch of ball.

[Keener98]

so Lee can't play defense anymore either? what is the point of him?

 

Also, am I the only one that still isn't willing to trash on Derrick Lee and feels somewhat confident he'll at least be a decent contributor this year? I'm actually more worried about Soto than I am Lee, today's home run aside.

I'm not very worried about Lee, but I could see him going either way on a .650 ops or an .850 without my being surprised. On the other hand, 850 for your 8 figure a year first baseman isn't good.

 

 

Id be ecstatic if Lee reached an .850 OPS this year. Id be more willing to bet on .700-.750 than .800-.850.

[UMFan83]

Also, has anyone noted that with the Cardinals losing, and the Brewers, Reds and Cubs all winning, the Cubs could end the night only 0.5 games out of first, yet in sole possession of 4th place?

[Careless]

Stop that with your head, Angel!

[Keener98]

so Lee can't play defense anymore either? what is the point of him?

 

Because he couldn't catch a blooper with his back to home plate in a swirling wind, he can't play defense anymore?

 

But yeah I believe the numbers say that he isn't the same defensive 1B as he was earlier in his career.

 

Also, am I the only one that still isn't willing to trash on Derrick Lee and feels somewhat confident he'll at least be a decent contributor this year? I'm actually more worried about Soto than I am Lee, today's home run aside.

 

 

No Lee offensively is done Im afraid. His bat is so slow its scary. He just isnt the same player, and part of that may be playing with a herniated disk, but I think hes done.

 

See I remember people commenting on how amazingly slow Edmonds' bat was when we first signed him and he struggled, but then he ended up hitting 20 HRs for us and had a pretty good offensive season. Lee is 33 and while he is old enough to be declining, I don't feel like he's at all old enough to be completely washed up. I would be willing to bet at some point this year he'll have a halfway decent stretch of ball.

 

Edmonds wasnt playing with a herniated disk, and coming off a couple seasons of losing his power since returning from an injury.

[Careless]

so Lee can't play defense anymore either? what is the point of him?

 

Because he couldn't catch a blooper with his back to home plate in a swirling wind, he can't play defense anymore?

 

But yeah I believe the numbers say that he isn't the same defensive 1B as he was earlier in his career.

 

Also, am I the only one that still isn't willing to trash on Derrick Lee and feels somewhat confident he'll at least be a decent contributor this year? I'm actually more worried about Soto than I am Lee, today's home run aside.

 

 

No Lee offensively is done Im afraid. His bat is so slow its scary. He just isnt the same player, and part of that may be playing with a herniated disk, but I think hes done.

 

See I remember people commenting on how amazingly slow Edmonds' bat was when we first signed him and he struggled, but then he ended up hitting 20 HRs for us and had a pretty good offensive season. Lee is 33 and while he is old enough to be declining, I don't feel like he's at all old enough to be completely washed up. I would be willing to bet at some point this year he'll have a halfway decent stretch of ball.

 

Edmonds wasnt playing with a herniated disk, and coming off a couple seasons of losing his power since returning from an injury.

No, he was coming off of a couple of seasons of losing his power and bat speed from age

[Tryptamine]

This at bat terrifies me.

[CyHawk_Cub]

I know it's a 3-run lead, but don't you dare pitch to Gonzalez

[Keener98]

Also, has anyone noted that with the Cardinals losing, and the Brewers, Reds and Cubs all winning, the Cubs could end the night only 0.5 games out of first, yet in sole possession of 4th place?

 

 

Yea fun division huh lol... WALK HIM! WALK HIM WALK HIM!

[woodchip2153]

PC thru 6 for Lilly?

 

83 according to gameday

 

Thanks.

 

Did you end up checking out that microfest deal?

 

nope, did you?

 

No, too much other crap going on. Like preparing for the baby's 1st birthday when the whole fam damily will be in town. Our basement is still in shambles from flooding last year.

 

that sounds like fun. You need to go to the Wine & Cheese Place and get some Dragon's Milk to help.

[Guest]

I know there's that whole thing about not putting the tying run on base, but I really wouldn't mind doing it with an intentional walk in this situation.

[Careless]

"Now I'm here talking to you so it looks like I'm giving you advice, but I'm just telling you to drill him with a pitch. I'm going to keep talking to make it look less and less likely that you hit him intentionally, so really nail him"

[UMFan83]

so Lee can't play defense anymore either? what is the point of him?

 

Because he couldn't catch a blooper with his back to home plate in a swirling wind, he can't play defense anymore?

 

But yeah I believe the numbers say that he isn't the same defensive 1B as he was earlier in his career.

 

Also, am I the only one that still isn't willing to trash on Derrick Lee and feels somewhat confident he'll at least be a decent contributor this year? I'm actually more worried about Soto than I am Lee, today's home run aside.

 

 

No Lee offensively is done Im afraid. His bat is so slow its scary. He just isnt the same player, and part of that may be playing with a herniated disk, but I think hes done.

 

See I remember people commenting on how amazingly slow Edmonds' bat was when we first signed him and he struggled, but then he ended up hitting 20 HRs for us and had a pretty good offensive season. Lee is 33 and while he is old enough to be declining, I don't feel like he's at all old enough to be completely washed up. I would be willing to bet at some point this year he'll have a halfway decent stretch of ball.

 

Edmonds wasnt playing with a herniated disk, and coming off a couple seasons of losing his power since returning from an injury.

 

He was also 38, while Lee is 33

[XZero771679666304]

 

See I remember people commenting on how amazingly slow Edmonds' bat was when we first signed him and he struggled, but then he ended up hitting 20 HRs for us and had a pretty good offensive season. Lee is 33 and while he is old enough to be declining, I don't feel like he's at all old enough to be completely washed up. I would be willing to bet at some point this year he'll have a halfway decent stretch of ball.

 

It's certainly possible. Part of his problem may be his back, but I think his approach has changed as well. I am convinced his problem is a result of his trying to pull everything, which itself may be because he doesn't feel like he can wait back on pitches (b/c of his reduced bat speed), so he tries to cheat on the FB.

 

Whatever the cause, it seems his numbers started suffering when he stopped going the other way as much.

 

 

At the very least, I think Hoff should play until Derrek's back is 100%.

[Careless]

nice 3-0

[Tryptamine]

Wow, what was he thinking?

[hotshot13422]

HOLY [expletive]!!! Guzman is my hero!! 3-0 pitch and he gets him to ground out

[ELCABALLO45]

Also, has anyone noted that with the Cardinals losing, and the Brewers, Reds and Cubs all winning, the Cubs could end the night only 0.5 games out of first, yet in sole possession of 4th place?

 

NL C v. West and East

 

42-31.

[Careless]

Huh, I never noticed that Bob had a passable, not completely tone-deaf singing voice. Pretty good for an ex-player

[woodchip2153]

looks like the rain is here, according to the radar.

[XZero771679666304]

Wow, what was he thinking?

 

Either he missed his location, or he wasn't thinking much at all.