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I'm seeing some people predicting PSU to win the Big Ten, but most preseason polls have OSU ahead of PSU.....guess there's no clear cut favorite right now
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So after looking through the schedule, there is one APP ST-like upset I see as a possibility. It's obviously a long shot, but I think Northern Iowa over Iowa is possible. (Richmond has an outside chance at beating Duke, but that's a totally different scale than Michigan/Iowa getting upset.)

 

I've watched the replay of the Northern Iowa/Brigham Young game on the MTN Network. There really wasn't much disparity between the 2 teams. Northern Iowa actually held within 10 until the 2nd half of the 4th Quarter, when BYU was able to break a lot of long passing plays. But until that point, UNI held their own with BYU.

 

I don't think 2009 Iowa poses the same danger 2008 Brigham Young did. Who knows, maybe their athleticism blows UNI away, but BYU with a far more powerful passing attack took 7/8 of the game to break it open. Iowa is breaking in some new players (i.e. Secondary, Defensive Line, RB) too, and are a little overhyped.

 

Many Northern Iowa players could approach this game as if it's their most important regular season game ever. Many of their players likely had their goal as a HS kid to get a scholarship from U of Iowa, and they never got it. This is their lifelong chance to prove Ferentz wrong. And, for what it's worth especially since Iowa St was [expletive], their upper classmen beat down Iowa State in 2007.

 

If Jewel Hampton doesn't play, I think Northern Iowa will pull it off at Kinnick.

 

Of course it's a major longshot, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. There are a lot of things I like for UNI in this game.

Richmond did beat Duke a couple of years ago, but Duke has gotten a lot better. There have been dreams of a bowl game this year for the first time in a long time. I would be very surprised.

 

When I raised the possibility of Richmond over Duke, it actually wasn't a slight at Duke. I raised it because I know how good Richmond is.

 

I saw Duke play 3 times last year, and nearly beat the 4th best team in the Big Ten (on that real shitty ACC Internet station- forgot what it's called). Cutcliffe is a real solid coach; he reminds me of Grobe.

 

Call it blind faith, but I'm still intrigued by UNI over Iowa. I'm skeptical Iowa will be more than an average Big 10 team to begin with; and if Moeaki (sp?) and Hampton don't play, I don't see Iowa scoring getting to 25 on UNI. With that said, UNI would have to play a near-perfect game, and turnovers for them would be detrimental.

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So after looking through the schedule, there is one APP ST-like upset I see as a possibility. It's obviously a long shot, but I think Northern Iowa over Iowa is possible. (Richmond has an outside chance at beating Duke, but that's a totally different scale than Michigan/Iowa getting upset.)

 

I've watched the replay of the Northern Iowa/Brigham Young game on the MTN Network. There really wasn't much disparity between the 2 teams. Northern Iowa actually held within 10 until the 2nd half of the 4th Quarter, when BYU was able to break a lot of long passing plays. But until that point, UNI held their own with BYU.

 

I don't think 2009 Iowa poses the same danger 2008 Brigham Young did. Who knows, maybe their athleticism blows UNI away, but BYU with a far more powerful passing attack took 7/8 of the game to break it open. Iowa is breaking in some new players (i.e. Secondary, Defensive Line, RB) too, and are a little overhyped.

 

Many Northern Iowa players could approach this game as if it's their most important regular season game ever. Many of their players likely had their goal as a HS kid to get a scholarship from U of Iowa, and they never got it. This is their lifelong chance to prove Ferentz wrong. And, for what it's worth especially since Iowa St was [expletive], their upper classmen beat down Iowa State in 2007.

 

If Jewel Hampton doesn't play, I think Northern Iowa will pull it off at Kinnick.

 

Of course it's a major longshot, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. There are a lot of things I like for UNI in this game.

Richmond did beat Duke a couple of years ago, but Duke has gotten a lot better. There have been dreams of a bowl game this year for the first time in a long time. I would be very surprised.

 

When I raised the possibility of Richmond over Duke, it actually wasn't a slight at Duke. I raised it because I know how good Richmond is.

 

I saw Duke play 3 times last year, and nearly beat the 4th best team in the Big Ten (on that real [expletive] ACC Internet station- forgot what it's called). Cutcliffe is a real solid coach; he reminds me of Grobe.

 

Call it blind faith, but I'm still intrigued by UNI over Iowa. I'm skeptical Iowa will be more than an average Big 10 team to begin with; and if Moeaki (sp?) and Hampton don't play, I don't see Iowa scoring getting to 25 on UNI. With that said, UNI would have to play a near-perfect game, and turnovers for them would be detrimental.

Iowa has played UNI 3 times since 1995, and has scored on average 48 points. you dont think Iowa will score 25?

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So after looking through the schedule, there is one APP ST-like upset I see as a possibility. It's obviously a long shot, but I think Northern Iowa over Iowa is possible. (Richmond has an outside chance at beating Duke, but that's a totally different scale than Michigan/Iowa getting upset.)

 

I've watched the replay of the Northern Iowa/Brigham Young game on the MTN Network. There really wasn't much disparity between the 2 teams. Northern Iowa actually held within 10 until the 2nd half of the 4th Quarter, when BYU was able to break a lot of long passing plays. But until that point, UNI held their own with BYU.

 

I don't think 2009 Iowa poses the same danger 2008 Brigham Young did. Who knows, maybe their athleticism blows UNI away, but BYU with a far more powerful passing attack took 7/8 of the game to break it open. Iowa is breaking in some new players (i.e. Secondary, Defensive Line, RB) too, and are a little overhyped.

 

Many Northern Iowa players could approach this game as if it's their most important regular season game ever. Many of their players likely had their goal as a HS kid to get a scholarship from U of Iowa, and they never got it. This is their lifelong chance to prove Ferentz wrong. And, for what it's worth especially since Iowa St was [expletive], their upper classmen beat down Iowa State in 2007.

 

If Jewel Hampton doesn't play, I think Northern Iowa will pull it off at Kinnick.

 

Of course it's a major longshot, but it's not outside the realm of possibility. There are a lot of things I like for UNI in this game.

Richmond did beat Duke a couple of years ago, but Duke has gotten a lot better. There have been dreams of a bowl game this year for the first time in a long time. I would be very surprised.

 

When I raised the possibility of Richmond over Duke, it actually wasn't a slight at Duke. I raised it because I know how good Richmond is.

 

I saw Duke play 3 times last year, and nearly beat the 4th best team in the Big Ten (on that real [expletive] ACC Internet station- forgot what it's called). Cutcliffe is a real solid coach; he reminds me of Grobe.

 

Call it blind faith, but I'm still intrigued by UNI over Iowa. I'm skeptical Iowa will be more than an average Big 10 team to begin with; and if Moeaki (sp?) and Hampton don't play, I don't see Iowa scoring getting to 25 on UNI. With that said, UNI would have to play a near-perfect game, and turnovers for them would be detrimental.

Iowa has played UNI 3 times since 1995, and has scored on average 48 points. you dont think Iowa will score 25?

 

Northern Iowa has a lot more talent now though than they did in either of those 3 years. Farley changed the talent level in that program. In the only year Farley was a coach where they played Iowa, Iowa did win 45-21, but Iowa had a ridiculous point differential that year. They finished 7-4 (with bowl loss to Florida), but lost their 3 closest games including one on a fluke onside kick (Northwestern game). Point being while Iowa did take UNI behind the woodshed, it was one of Iowa's better teams that was a typical 9-3/10-2 team.

 

If Hampton is out, I don't see much of a running game for Iowa. And if the TE Moeaki (sp?) is out, the passing game doesn't have the running game to set itself up for like last year, and there are less weapons.

 

I don't think the Defense will be as good this year either. They lost a near-shut down CB, and some vital DE's. I'm just skeptical of Iowa as a whole, and don't see them better than 4-4 in the Big Ten. I think Iowa is 14 PTS better on paper with those reported injuries to the TE and Hampton, but I'll bank on an upset and pick UNI.

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Northern Iowa has a lot more talent now though than they did in either of those 3 years. Farley changed the talent level in that program. In the only year Farley was a coach where they played Iowa, Iowa did win 45-21, but Iowa had a ridiculous point differential that year. They finished 7-4 (with bowl loss to Florida), but lost their 3 closest games including one on a fluke onside kick (Northwestern game). Point being while Iowa did take UNI behind the woodshed, it was one of Iowa's better teams that was a typical 9-3/10-2 team.

 

If Hampton is out, I don't see much of a running game for Iowa. And if the TE Moeaki (sp?) is out, the passing game doesn't have the running game to set itself up for like last year, and there are less weapons.

 

I don't think the Defense will be as good this year either. They lost a near-shut down CB, and some vital DE's. I'm just skeptical of Iowa as a whole, and don't see them better than 4-4 in the Big Ten. I think Iowa is 14 PTS better on paper with those reported injuries to the TE and Hampton, but I'll bank on an upset and pick UNI.

 

1) Fletcher was very good, he wasn't a near shut down CB. While he had a very good season last year, he was a 3rd round pick based on his measurables more than his production. The guy replacing him was a 4-star recruit with possibly better measurables who has a lot of potential and got experience in the nickel last year.

 

2) We lost our DT's not DE's. Both DE's return and both are very good. The DT's are big losses.

 

3) The defense may not be as good, but many would argue that it could be better. They return both DE's, all 3 LB's (and their backups), and 3 of the 4 in the secondary with all of their backups.

The LB unit is ranked #5 in the country by Phil Steele, the DB unit is ranked # 11. The defense as a whole is ranked #8 in the country.

 

4) Hampton is not expected to miss the game at this point. Regardless, I think you're over-estimating his importance. Jeff Brinson came in as a freshman last year also as a higher rated recruit. By most accounts he was the more impressive runner in practice but Jewel picked up the passing game much quicker so he got on the field and Brinson red-shirted. He's expected to at least split time with Hampton even if healthy.

Iowa also brought in a top 10 RB in the country last year in Brandon Wegher. Most importantly, they have the #6 OL in the country according to Phil Steele.

 

5) No idea where you're getting this stuff on Moeaki. He's 100% healthy and looking good in workouts.

 

6) You are obviously digging through every angle to find reasons why this can happen and there's nothing wrong with that. You're pretty well-informed and really trying to analyze it. App St. showed it's possible. You're just not really providing reasoning why you're skeptical of Iowa as a whole.

By any measure they have a top 15 defense, a top 10 OL with a returning QB who became solid and good special teams. To me that's not a recipe for a team to get upset at home by a 1-AA squad.

 

You cited the '05 team that beat UNI 45-21 and said they had a great point differential and should have been better than their record. Well, last year's team was an even stronger example of that. They lost by 1, 5, 3 and 3. 9-4 with their 4 losses come by a combined 12 points. This year's team as a whole is better than last year's team. The record may not be improved this year because they have road games at PSU, OSU, MSU and Wisconsin. But that doesn't have anything to do with UNI at home.

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The next photoshopped trophy should be made out of Mark Mangino's breasts. It'll be larger than the Stanley Cup. (That's because he is really, really fat.)
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The next photoshopped trophy should be made out of Mark Mangino's breasts. It'll be larger than the Stanley Cup. (That's because he is really, really fat.)

 

 

that trophy in the pic wasn't photoshopped. that's what it looks like.

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The next photoshopped trophy should be made out of Mark Mangino's breasts. It'll be larger than the Stanley Cup. (That's because he is really, really fat.)

 

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/54703/mangino_medium.jpg

 

http://media.scout.com/Media/Image/50/509121.jpg

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