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I think he simply cannot bear the load of an every down back.

 

I don't think there is anyone out there who thinks he is or suggests that he should be. Like you said, he's Sproles.

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Plus, it's really not all that impressive. He's in good shape, but not so much that he differentiates himself from other collegiate running backs. I don't have anything against the guy (even though it probably seems like I'm bagging on him), I just don't see what the big deal is. If he's the next slot-receiving wes welker then fine. If he's just another undersized RB who has an uphill battle in the NFL then I don't see the appeal or hype. That's all.
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I think he simply cannot bear the load of an every down back.

 

I don't think there is anyone out there who thinks he is or suggests that he should be. Like you said, he's Sproles.

So why hype him? He's a role player. A change of pace back - aka nothing special.

 

I could see if you want to hype him as someone that would never get drafted, but, low and behold, get's drafted. But ESPN has been riding this guy really hard lately and I don't see the purpose. He's another underdog story is all I can see.

 

With that said, if he sticks as a slot-receiver then all bets are off. He looks like he has great hands and, so long as he could run effective routes, he is way quicker and "shiftier" (that's actually a word?) than Welker.

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Who is overhyping him? If he's the best of all the RB's at the Senior Bowl like McShay is saying, then it is what it is. They are just calling it like they see it. He has impressed a ton of people there. Should they not report on that? Does reporting on a guy instantly mean that you are overhyping him?

 

No one is saying he's going to be a first rounder or that he is the next big thing. Nobody. You seem to be taking a very strange antagonistic approach to it. He's just a guy who SEC fans knew all about but the rest of the country really didn't until now.

 

But anyone that can rip SEC defenses to shreds like he did is likely going to have some decent value at the next level. 266 yards against Arkansas, 207 against Auburn, 324 against Tennessee, 177 against LSU, and putting up back to back Cotton Bowl performances of 183 yards and 231 yards. Dude is dangerous.

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Who is overhyping him? If he's the best of all the RB's at the Senior Bowl like McShay is saying, then it is what it is. They are just calling it like they see it. He has impressed a ton of people there. Should they not report on that? Does reporting on a guy instantly mean that you are overhyping him?

 

No one is saying he's going to be a first rounder or that he is the next big thing. Nobody. You seem to be taking a very strange antagonistic approach to it. He's just a guy who SEC fans knew all about but the rest of the country really didn't until now.

 

But anyone that can rip SEC defenses to shreds like he did is likely going to have some decent value at the next level. 266 yards against Arkansas, 207 against Auburn, 324 against Tennessee, 177 against LSU, and putting up back to back Cotton Bowl performances of 183 yards and 231 yards. Dude is dangerous.

 

For crying out loud, I'm not saying he's not going to be a productive player. I just think it's funny that every "up and comer" or "improving their draft stock" piece I've heard on SportsCenter, ESPN radio, Cold Pizza (or whatever it's called now), etc., featuring McShay or Kiper features this particular guy. It would seem he's the only back toting the ball in the senior bow. Let me reiterate: I have nothing against the guy. But, he, perhaps amazingly I guess, is all that I hear about. He's a good football player, but I just think he'll be a middle of the road NFL running back in the end. I'm not saying he'll be a bust , that he shouldn't be drafted, or any other "antagonistic" approach.

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He's a good football player, but I just think he'll be a middle of the road NFL running back in the end..

 

NO ONE is saying otherwise!! Not one single talking head is saying he's going to be an elite or great running back, so it's not like you are going out on a limb saying what you are saying. Everyone I've heard just says he has the potential to be a great scatback like Sproles. Lord have mercy.

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awww, little Dexter McCluster. Little dude, but he is definitely solid.

 

http://media.al.com/mobile-press-register/photo/-bd780d1ed23c3d7e.jpg

 

who are the other guys who look best shirtless

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj80/daw0521/chris-johnson.jpg

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He's a good football player, but I just think he'll be a middle of the road NFL running back in the end..

 

NO ONE is saying otherwise!! Not one single talking head is saying he's going to be an elite or great running back, so it's not like you are going out on a limb saying what you are saying. Everyone I've heard just says he has the potential to be a great scatback like Sproles. Lord have mercy.

 

Fine, I accept that. I just don't understand why people (i.e. "college football experts") are so hung up on the guy. I mean he's a great athlete, but they could be spending their resources on a more worthy candidate in my humble opinion. That is all.

 

After all of this, I really feel stupid, because my whole point was that I "like" dexter, but not as much as the media. He's undersized and there are countless other athletes that would benefit ten-fold from sort of media attention.

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I mean he's a great athlete, but they could be spending their resources on a more worthy candidate in my humble opinion.

 

like who?

 

Maybe if someone else stood out that much to everyone this past week they'd get talked about more than McCluster, but nobody has apparently.

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I mean he's a great athlete, but they could be spending their resources on a more worthy candidate in my humble opinion.

 

like who?

 

Maybe if someone else stood out that much to everyone this past week they'd get talked about more than McCluster, but nobody has apparently.

This Site cites 10 players as risers excluding McCluster:

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/12852998/senior-bowl-practice-risersfallers-blount-up-gilyard-down

 

This Site includes McCluster in their top 10 players:

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/26/seniorbowl.tuesday/index.html

 

Either way, I'm not saying he isn't (or won't be) an effective NFL player. I'm saying he, IN MY OPINION, will not make a great enough impact in the NFL to necessitate this sort of attention. If a backup running back is the standout in the senior bowl (and everybody already knows this to be the case) then this is one piss poor senior bowl. Tim Tebow attention aside, there should be other RBs (e.g. Blount, Best, Unga) that should attract attention from the national media.

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Holy hell as Tebow sucked in the game today.

 

I think he can develop into a pretty good NFL QB, but it'll take time (like 2-3 years minimum). He'll be optimized as a Kordell Stewart/slash type player, though, I think.

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Holy hell as Tebow sucked in the game today.

 

I think he can develop into a pretty good NFL QB, but it'll take time (like 2-3 years minimum). He'll be optimized as a Kordell Stewart/slash type player, though, I think.

 

Maybe so. I can't see how any team takes him any higher than the 4th round though.

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As for McCluster, I don't think excitement over him is overhyping him. He's an explosive, exciting player. He won't be as good as Chris Johnson, but he's got that type of playmaking ability. He may not be a feature back, but he can still be an integral part of an offense.

 

Well worth a 2nd round pick, I think.

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Holy hell as Tebow sucked in the game today.

 

I think he can develop into a pretty good NFL QB, but it'll take time (like 2-3 years minimum). He'll be optimized as a Kordell Stewart/slash type player, though, I think.

 

Maybe so. I can't see how any team takes him any higher than the 4th round though.

 

Somebody will fall in love with the intagibles and college production and take him in the first 3 rounds, I think. If nobody else, Jacksonville will just for the ticket sales. Depending on how they planned to use him, I'd have no problem with the Titans considering him with their 3rd round pick (other than I think we have bigger needs).

 

How he does at the combine will be big, though, I think.

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Holy hell as Tebow sucked in the game today.

 

I think he can develop into a pretty good NFL QB, but it'll take time (like 2-3 years minimum). He'll be optimized as a Kordell Stewart/slash type player, though, I think.

 

Maybe so. I can't see how any team takes him any higher than the 4th round though.

 

Somebody will fall in love with the intagibles and college production and take him in the first 3 rounds, I think. If nobody else, Jacksonville will just for the ticket sales. Depending on how they planned to use him, I'd have no problem with the Titans considering him with their 3rd round pick (other than I think we have bigger needs).

 

How he does at the combine will be big, though, I think.

 

 

What a mistake it will be. I heard some guy on the radio say he's not dropping past the late first round.

 

I'm not sure why anyone thinks he can be a decent NFL player. He has shown very little in terms of being able to pass the ball. There are tons of guys in the draft that are better passers. Sure he's a decent runner, but that's as a QB. Not as a RB or receiver.

 

So I don't understand the people who think he can be an NFL QB, and I don't understand the people who think he can be a decent NFL player at another position. Personally, I think he's a waste of a pick unless he's taken as a project in the late rounds, knowing a lot of late rounders don't even make the team.

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What a mistake it will be. I heard some guy on the radio say he's not dropping past the late first round.

 

I'm not sure why anyone thinks he can be a decent NFL player. He has shown very little in terms of being able to pass the ball. There are tons of guys in the draft that are better passers. Sure he's a decent runner, but that's as a QB. Not as a RB or receiver.

 

So I don't understand the people who think he can be an NFL QB, and I don't understand the people who think he can be a decent NFL player at another position. Personally, I think he's a waste of a pick unless he's taken as a project in the late rounds, knowing a lot of late rounders don't even make the team.

 

Right now, no, he isn't an NFL QB. From watching him for 4 years, however, against very good competition (not close to NFL competition, granted), I think he has the potential to be a pretty good quarterback. It'll take time because whoever takes him will have to rework his throwing motion, but he has the arm strength to make NFL throws. The accuracy should improve as the motion improves, but that's no guarantee.

 

I've said since the start of the season that his best position in the NFL would be as an athlete type player, much like Kordell Stewart early in his career. He's athletic and pretty strong, and would only get stronger in an NFL weight/conditioning program. He'll never have elite speed, but working from the tight end/H-back/possession receiver spots, I think he can be successful. That said, I wouldn't consider him in the first round and, ideally, wouldn't take him until the 3rd. I think either the Jags will grab him, or he'll go to a team that doesn't have many needs that can afford to reach on a high-potential project.

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OUCH. Jags lineman unloads on Tim Tebow

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/03/jaguars-lineman-unloads-on-tebow/

 

"5. He cant throw. PERIOD.

 

"4. He cant read any coverage other than probably cover 2 or man cov. PERIOD (the only cov. in college lol).

 

"3. the QB wildcat WILL NOT WORK IN THIS LEAGUE. PERIOD.

 

"2. He doesnt know how to take a snap from center, nor is he even comfortable enough to.

 

"1. HE CANT THROW. and thats really something you either have or not, never seen a qb who couldnt ever throw, just all of a sudden be able to throw just because hes now in the NFL."

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