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Another Cards fan here...I was surprised by Soto but not mad. Ludwick was a second round draft pick who just had bad luck with injuries. Very talented player.

 

Would you be pissed if Hoffpauir hit 37 home runs this year?

 

Because that would be the same situation as Ludwick.

 

No not mad but Ludwick was a second round pick with a lot of promise. I do not believe Hoffpauir was drafted in the first 10 rounds. All this points out is he was highly rearded and not some undrafted player...Barden was highly touted before he had the hernia issues as well. The Cards have been good about looking at players that others have neglegted to care about. Ludwick had a great year in the minors before the Cards got him.

 

But come on. Nothing in this description suggests that Ludwick would become the hitter he's become. It could have been projected that he'd hit like 08 Ankiel or maybe a little better than that, but the level he's on right now comes completely out of nowhere.

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Another Cards fan here...I was surprised by Soto but not mad. Ludwick was a second round draft pick who just had bad luck with injuries. Very talented player.

 

Would you be pissed if Hoffpauir hit 37 home runs this year?

 

Because that would be the same situation as Ludwick.

 

No not mad but Ludwick was a second round pick with a lot of promise. I do not believe Hoffpauir was drafted in the first 10 rounds. All this points out is he was highly rearded and not some undrafted player...Barden was highly touted before he had the hernia issues as well. The Cards have been good about looking at players that others have neglegted to care about. Ludwick had a great year in the minors before the Cards got him.

 

We're not talking about the potential some player had in 1998. We're talking about how said player was regarded the year they came up to the bigs and got their first real shot at playing everyday. Ludwich wasn't among the top 11 prospects in the Cards organization coming into 2008, thus he wasn't a high regarded prospect. Show me where someone projected a 1.000+ OPS for Ludwick anywhere. Even on the day he was drafted. It doesn't exist because he wasn't expected to do it.

 

He was probably just as likely as Hoffpauir to randomly explode and hit 37 HRs

 

I am not arguing it was expected. Just stating the talent was there early on and injuries got the best of him. I believe he had a hip replacement. He had a great minor league season with Detroit, I believe, the year before. The Cards signed him as a minor league free agent...ohhh he just hit his second of the day. Must have been magic...

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He was probably just as likely as Hoffpauir to randomly explode and hit 37 HRs

Talking about likelihood is useful before something happens. Afterward it is irrelevant. It happened. Now you know that everyone who said it wouldn't happen was wrong. Comparing him to Hoffpauir is something you could have done back when you knew less about him.

 

 

And as I type...

 

Yeah you proved my point wrong because Ludwick hit a home run as we were discussing this. Is GWRB down today or something?

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Mario Mendoza just homered

 

I don't think you get the joke...when the Cubs give up a ton of HRs you are supposed to pretend like past players on that team are hitting HRs, not just random MLB players from the past. Mendoza never played for the Cardinals.

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What a train wreck...the Friendly Confines have been anything bit so far this season.

 

We started out 1-3 at home last year too...

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Truth be told, a lot of Cards fans keep expecting the other shoe to drop in regards to Ludwick. There were a lot of cries to trade him while his value was high in the off season.
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Another Cards fan here...I was surprised by Soto but not mad. Ludwick was a second round draft pick who just had bad luck with injuries. Very talented player.

 

Would you be pissed if Hoffpauir hit 37 home runs this year?

 

Because that would be the same situation as Ludwick.

 

No not mad but Ludwick was a second round pick with a lot of promise. I do not believe Hoffpauir was drafted in the first 10 rounds. All this points out is he was highly rearded and not some undrafted player...Barden was highly touted before he had the hernia issues as well. The Cards have been good about looking at players that others have neglegted to care about. Ludwick had a great year in the minors before the Cards got him.

 

But come on. Nothing in this description suggests that Ludwick would become the hitter he's become. It could have been projected that he'd hit like 08 Ankiel or maybe a little better than that, but the level he's on right now comes completely out of nowhere.

 

You are right. My only point was he had talent early on that we are seeing today. In no way am I saying I knew he would be this good.

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I'm sorry. This team isn't winning 80 games this year the way they're playing.

 

Care to bet? I'll find at least 5 stretches last year when the Cubs went 5-5 and looked as bad or worse than this.

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Mario Mendoza just homered

 

I don't think you get the joke...when the Cubs give up a ton of HRs you are supposed to pretend like past players on that team are hitting HRs, not just random MLB players from the past. Mendoza never played for the Cardinals.

My bad I can't think of any Cardinals that completely suck because they're all overachievers. We need to throw a parade the day Dave Duncan and TLR are gone.

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He was probably just as likely as Hoffpauir to randomly explode and hit 37 HRs

Talking about likelihood is useful before something happens. Afterward it is irrelevant. It happened. Now you know that everyone who said it wouldn't happen was wrong. Comparing him to Hoffpauir is something you could have done back when you knew less about him.

 

 

And as I type...

 

Yeah you proved my point wrong because Ludwick hit a home run as we were discussing this. Is GWRB down today or something?

What? The homerun was an ironic coincidence.

 

Also, what can I say? Talking to you guys about Ryan Ludwick is more fun than complaining about Tony LaRussa.

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