NHL W. Conference Finals: Red Wings defeat Blackhawks 4-1

[bcl412]

I'm disappointed we lost but I'm not expecting to win this series so I'm not mad. I think it very easily could be a sweep and that won't bother me much either (actually, yeah it would in the short term.). Hopefully us losing to the Wings will be similar to the Bulls losing to the Pistons pre-dynasty and the future holds something similar to those Bulls teams.

[UMFan83]

I just wonder if the salary cap is going to kill us down the road. One of our biggest strengths this year is that we are 4 lines deep. Hell we even have an All Star caliber goalie on the bench in case Khabi gets hurt. With Havlat, Phalsson and Khabi all UFA's this year, its gonna be hard to maintain that depth. If we resign Havlat and Khabi, then we risk not having the space to resign Kane and Toews when it comes up.

[Flames24Rulz]

I just wonder if the salary cap is going to kill us down the road. One of our biggest strengths this year is that we are 4 lines deep. Hell we even have an All Star caliber goalie on the bench in case Khabi gets hurt. With Havlat, Phalsson and Khabi all UFA's this year, its gonna be hard to maintain that depth. If we resign Havlat and Khabi, then we risk not having the space to resign Kane and Toews when it comes up.

 

I'll put it at 5% that we re-sign Khabibulin and 55% that we re-sign Havlat.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I'd be really wary about resigning Havlat. He's finally healthy in his contract year, which is a big red flag, and we have lots of good forwards.

[UMFan83]

I'd be really wary about resigning Havlat. He's finally healthy in his contract year, which is a big red flag, and we have lots of good forwards.

 

Yeah but the other forwards that would replace him are simply not as good as a healthy Havlat. But the cap is what it is, and you often have to make difficult decisions.

[Cynosure]

Adam Burish MILIMETERS from DEATH... no exaggeration at all:

 

[17 Seconds]

Adam Burish MILIMETERS from DEATH... no exaggeration at all:

 

 

holy [expletive]. that's literally as close as it comes.

 

anybody seen "blades of glory"? it reminded me of a stupid scene in that movie

[bcl412]

The Zednik and what I've seen from the Marlachuck incident still give me night mares. Luckily for Burish it didn't happen again. Damn that's scary stuff.

[Cynosure]

The Zednik and what I've seen from the Marlachuck incident still give me night mares. Luckily for Burish it didn't happen again. Damn that's scary stuff.

 

The difference in this instance is that it would have severed the left AND right common carotid arteries and would have easily bled out within 20-30 seconds and there is nothing anyone could do for him.

 

Zednik got incredibly lucky it was only one of them and he had the mind to get up and skate to the bench, or he was a goner.

[bcl412]

The Zednik and what I've seen from the Marlachuck incident still give me night mares. Luckily for Burish it didn't happen again. Damn that's scary stuff.

 

The difference in this instance is that it would have severed the left AND right common carotid arteries and would have easily bled out within 20-30 seconds and there is nothing anyone could do for him.

 

Zednik got incredibly lucky it was only one of them and he had the mind to get up and skate to the bench, or he was a goner.

 

That's very true. I wonder how long the series would have been delayed if something tragic had happened.

 

On second thought maybe that's not the best thing to be talking about.

[jersey cubs fan]

I just wonder if the salary cap is going to kill us down the road. One of our biggest strengths this year is that we are 4 lines deep. Hell we even have an All Star caliber goalie on the bench in case Khabi gets hurt. With Havlat, Phalsson and Khabi all UFA's this year, its gonna be hard to maintain that depth. If we resign Havlat and Khabi, then we risk not having the space to resign Kane and Toews when it comes up.

 

I'll put it at 5% that we re-sign Khabibulin and 55% that we re-sign Havlat.

 

I think there is a good chance they resign Pahlsson, and agree with your percentages on the other two. Also, I don't think Huet is really All Star caliber. He's good enough for a good team to win in the postseason, but that's about it.

[kujay]

I don't like Pahlsson, but I think Tallon will resign him. Have to justify getting rid of Wiz.

 

Seriously, what is Pahlsson good for?

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't like Pahlsson, but I think Tallon will resign him. Have to justify getting rid of Wiz.

 

Seriously, what is Pahlsson good for?

 

One of the few legit centers in the organization, I guess.

[kujay]

I don't like Pahlsson, but I think Tallon will resign him. Have to justify getting rid of Wiz.

 

Seriously, what is Pahlsson good for?

 

One of the few legit centers in the organization, I guess.

 

I see a guy who isn't terribly physical, doesn't really score, is so-so in his own zone and hasn't lived up to his reputation on faceoffs. I guess he's a "legit" center, but not by much.

[NewUserName]

I don't like Pahlsson, but I think Tallon will resign him. Have to justify getting rid of Wiz.

 

Seriously, what is Pahlsson good for?

 

What is Draper good for? Solid defense, good on face-offs, good penalty killer, helps younger 3rd/4th liners understand their roles. Much more valuable than you think. Pahlsson is a quality 3rd/4th line center in a similar mold of Kris Draper.

[jersey cubs fan]

I don't like Pahlsson, but I think Tallon will resign him. Have to justify getting rid of Wiz.

 

Seriously, what is Pahlsson good for?

 

One of the few legit centers in the organization, I guess.

 

I see a guy who isn't terribly physical, doesn't really score, is so-so in his own zone and hasn't lived up to his reputation on faceoffs. I guess he's a "legit" center, but not by much.

 

How much did that bout with mono affect his play since returning? I don't know anything about the guy, but I have to assume he's not at this best right now. I still see them trying to keep him around.

[kujay]

I don't like Pahlsson, but I think Tallon will resign him. Have to justify getting rid of Wiz.

 

Seriously, what is Pahlsson good for?

 

One of the few legit centers in the organization, I guess.

 

I see a guy who isn't terribly physical, doesn't really score, is so-so in his own zone and hasn't lived up to his reputation on faceoffs. I guess he's a "legit" center, but not by much.

 

How much did that bout with mono affect his play since returning? I don't know anything about the guy, but I have to assume he's not at this best right now. I still see them trying to keep him around.

 

Well, that is certainly the wild card with him. And I admit, I had never seen him play for more than a few minutes before he came to the Hawks. So maybe he can be a difference maker. But he hasn't shown any offensive touch.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

As far as I can see, Pahlsson's been excellent on faceoffs and well above-average in his own zone.

[jaydee]

Detroit is very good. I can't really get mad losing to them because I don't really expect the hawks to win. The hawks can play better, but even then it will be very difficult to win the series, or even take it to 7 games.

 

At this point I would not mind letting Khabibulin go at all. He is not a difference maker in goal, and his salary would open up a lot of things. The difference between Khabibulin and Huet really isn't that big IMO.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Havlat apparently hurt his ankle yesterday and did not practice today. Rumor is it is bad.

[Flames24Rulz]

Havlat apparently hurt his ankle yesterday and did not practice today. Rumor is it is bad.

 

He looked quite a few steps slower on the ice when he came back after being hurt. Not good.

 

I think Pahlsson's been as good as I could have expected. I wouldn't mind bringing him back to anchor the 3rd line next year.

[gflore34]

Took a glance at some of the Wings boards, many if not all of their fans seem to think that every one of the FA's will sign cap-friendly deals, is that realistic? Conversely, they believe cap issues will break up the Hawks, funny how Wings fans think they are the only team in the NHL capable of signing players to cap-friendly deals.

[NewUserName]

Took a glance at some of the Wings boards, many if not all of their fans seem to think that every one of the FA's will sign cap-friendly deals, is that realistic? Conversely, they believe cap issues will break up the Hawks, funny how Wings fans think they are the only team in the NHL capable of signing players to cap-friendly deals.

 

The Wings do have several players who have signed very cap friendly deals...so the thought that they may have others is not out of the question. I dont follow the salary structure of other teams that much, but the Wings seem to sign most of them before they hit the open market. I guess I would ask, have the Hawks shown the ability to sign their core players to long term cap friendly contracts?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

The Red Wings have a long history of resigning their players to below-market value, and even getting some outside free agents to come there for huge discounts. It's a self-perpetuating deal, they are awesome and win Cups, so players want to play for them and are willing to take less money, which helps them be awesome and win Cups.

 

The Hawks can't just assume the same thing.

[Cynosure]

Havlat expected to play tonight...

 

Just win Hox!