Cubs/Brewers Postgame 4/10

[Guest]

the problem was theriot's indecision. he did NOT go directly home...he thought about turning two. going home was the correct decision, but he wasnt sure of it and it cost him.

 

He had to set himself first. If he wouldn't have, his throw would have been even weaker than it already was.

[Guest]

One constant from year to year is that the Cubs have one of the dumbest teams in MLB. Their collective baseball IQ is damn near negative.

 

This post is so hilariously wrong it's, well, hilarious.

[Guest]

To me, the most indefensible move of the game was Lou PHing with Miles with Fontenot on 3B and Hill on 1B. I don't get why Lou didn't put Hoffpauir out there. Hell, he could have asked Marmol (a former catcher) to lay down a sac bunt and let Soriano try driving in some runs. The Miles move made no sense.

 

Yep. Cause in that situation a double play is the worst thing that can happen. A strikeout would be much preferable because it would allow Soriano to bat. Which is why it makes no sense that Lou puts in the guy who is most likely to make contact and most likely to have it be weak contact as well.

[chuckywang]

Calm down guys. We're a good team. When other teams need walk off hits to beat you, you know you are a good team. It was like this last year ... most of our losses were close and tight with a play here or there that can change the game completely. I like other teams having to scratch and claw to eke out a win against you, since it means you are tough to beat.

[SouthSideRyan]

There was about a 10% chance to get the runner at home. There was about similarly low chance to turn two. You can't pin this one on Theriot... 90% of the time the game is over when he picks it up there... no matter which play he tries to make.

 

Can I pin it on Theriot for having the arm strength(and accuracy) of my 3 year old niece) Theriot has played like a solid DH so far this season.

[SouthSideRyan]

it'd be nice to have cedeno or anybody who could competently field SS in a defensive pinch

 

I was trying to avoid bringing Ronny into the discussion, but he makes that play either way it goes. Of course he doesn't add much offensively, and I doubt Lou pulls Ryan for him anyway, so it's really moot. But if we're talking hypothetically, having Cedeno in there saves the game.

 

wait you have a problem with theriot's decision making but you're pimping cedeno?

 

Yeah, Ronny probably woulda fielded it, then run out to LF and handed it to Soriano. I don't know what specifically caused your bizarred loathing of Ronny Cedeno or your almost as bizarre mancrush on Ryan Theriot, but I'm really impressed that you're still holding strong to it to this day no matter what the situation.

[TruffleShuffle]

truffle's cedeno hate/theriot love is ridiculous. get a hold of yourself man, baseball talk is the one place on here that you sometimes refrain from embarrassing yourself.

 

right, because i'm certainly the only one saying that theriot probably made the right play there. but keep at it with the condescending posts, meph.

Edited April 11, 2009 by TruffleShuffle

[SouthSideRyan]

Now that I've read through it all, my favorite part of this thread, the (admittedly) minority group that is ripping on Soriano for not running down a double at the wall, while excusing Theriot for having poor range and a poor arm, cause that's not his fault.

[TruffleShuffle]

it'd be nice to have cedeno or anybody who could competently field SS in a defensive pinch

 

I was trying to avoid bringing Ronny into the discussion, but he makes that play either way it goes. Of course he doesn't add much offensively, and I doubt Lou pulls Ryan for him anyway, so it's really moot. But if we're talking hypothetically, having Cedeno in there saves the game.

 

wait you have a problem with theriot's decision making but you're pimping cedeno?

 

Yeah, Ronny probably woulda fielded it, then run out to LF and handed it to Soriano. I don't know what specifically caused your bizarred loathing of Ronny Cedeno or your almost as bizarre mancrush on Ryan Theriot, but I'm really impressed that you're still holding strong to it to this day no matter what the situation.

 

it's probably because i'm racist, just like everyone else who thinks theriot is a decent ballplayer.

[TruffleShuffle]

Now that I've read through it all, my favorite part of this thread, the (admittedly) minority group that is ripping on Soriano for not running down a double at the wall, while excusing Theriot for having poor range and a poor arm, cause that's not his fault.

 

my favorite part is that half the posters in this thread are crapping on a guy who got on base 3 times and made 1 error instead of a first baseman who isn't hitting, a LF who went hitless got a bad read on a ball and couldn't prevent it from going over his head even though he was playing deep to prevent doubles, and a manager who had his head up his ass for the last 3 innings of the game.

[Bote McBoteface]

Haha, I got home from work and checked the score of the game, read the story, and was like..."Man, I bet they're overreacting so hardcore on NSBB right now."

 

Sometimes it isn't even fun to be right, this is kinda ridiculous.

 

 

 

Derrek Lee is a 3 run homerun away from being tied for the team lead in RBI. Its way too early for these [expletive] posts.

 

Derrek Lee has been awful since last April. How is it too early? Would a 3 run home run by him tomorrow suddenly make him good again?

 

Except that he wasn't awful last season. An .832 OPS from your first baseman isn't great, but it certainly is not awful, especially when he's so good defensively.

 

He grounded into double plays a lot last year. Boo hoo.

[SouthSideRyan]

Now that I've read through it all, my favorite part of this thread, the (admittedly) minority group that is ripping on Soriano for not running down a double at the wall, while excusing Theriot for having poor range and a poor arm, cause that's not his fault.

 

my favorite part is that half the posters in this thread are crapping on a guy who got on base 3 times and made 1 error instead of a first baseman who isn't hitting, a LF who went hitless got a bad read on a ball and couldn't prevent it from going over his head even though he was playing deep to prevent doubles, and a manager who had his head up his ass for the last 3 innings of the game.

 

Oh, cause my favorite part was that all of those people have been ripped on numerous times in this thread, and you only feel the need to defend the scrappy white guy who must've said hi to you at some minor league game 5 years ago.

[TruffleShuffle]

Now that I've read through it all, my favorite part of this thread, the (admittedly) minority group that is ripping on Soriano for not running down a double at the wall, while excusing Theriot for having poor range and a poor arm, cause that's not his fault.

 

my favorite part is that half the posters in this thread are crapping on a guy who got on base 3 times and made 1 error instead of a first baseman who isn't hitting, a LF who went hitless got a bad read on a ball and couldn't prevent it from going over his head even though he was playing deep to prevent doubles, and a manager who had his head up his ass for the last 3 innings of the game.

 

Oh, cause my favorite part was that all of those people have been ripped on numerous times in this thread, and you only feel the need to defend the scrappy white guy who must've said hi to you at some minor league game 5 years ago.

 

i've never met the guy, probably never will. and thank you for mentioning the part about him being white to reinforce what i said about my being a complete racist.

[Andy]

Ryan Theriot had no chance whatsoever of turning two there and I'm moderately shocked anyone is saying he did. I would have been incensed at him if he'd tried because there's no way on God's green earth he'd have done it, he probably wouldn't have even gotten the out at 2nd.

 

He made a poor throw to home, Koyie Hill didn't do the best job corralling it, and Weeks beat him. Frankly, the game was lost with Lou's insane managing and our lack of timely hitting, not because of that play.

[anabiono]

good lord guys...the cubs lost a close game...made some mistakes

 

big whippty whip!

 

win tonight and on easter, we win the series...

 

win the series and we are golden, and even if we don't...no worries

 

oh yeah....bradley got a hit! a home run!

 

i haven't even seen it yet...just be glad you got to watch it instead of complaining so much

 

when has a team ever gone 161-1?

[Keener98]

Why do we have this message board? Apparently we arent suppose to discuss the game, and things that occured in the game.

[anabiono]

Why do we have this message board? Apparently we arent suppose to

discuss the game, and things that occured in the game.

 

i think that what's happening...don't be so sensitive

[Cubswin11]

I don't know if this was brought up, didn't want to look through the pages for it, but IMO the offense needs to shoulder some blame here too. We had 16 baserunners (9H/7BB), with our offense that should have translated into 5+ runs, we should never been in that position at the end of the game where all it takes is one bad play or two that can make us lose a game. It didn't help that Theriot/Soriano had a couple awful defensive plays and the bullpen didn't shut the Brewers down but the amount of runners we got on we should have won that game in a blowout and not put ourself in a close game situation in the end.