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57 members have voted

  1. 1. Steroid Era

    • All of them should be thrown out
      1
    • All of them should be asterisked
      2
    • Only those from proven offenders (positive test, admission, proven guilty via circumstantial evidence) should be thrown out
      7
    • Only those from proven offenders should be asterisked
      5
    • Nothing, they should remain in the book as normal
      24
    • Who Cares?
      18


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Posted
Well I just voted for the proven offenders should have them thrown out and the only other vote is nothing. Who the heck voted for that? Baseball lives on its history and hallowed records. Allowing records to stand that happened because we know for sure the person cheated is an idea I just can't fathom and will never support. In my opinion because A-rod has admitted to cheating in 01, 02, and 03 his stats from those years should be stripped from his career. Same goes with any other players proven or admitted to use during specific time periods.
Posted
I voted for Who Cares or if I couldn't have voted for that I would have voted for nothing. I'm so sick of this steroids crap. It's great that they are testing now, but sports is about entertainment. I was entertained during the era. I'm entertained now. I would have been entertained in the '50s. I just like to watch the game.
Posted
I'd say nothing, because, and I have no idea who originally made this point, but someone said something that made sense to me. Who's going to be leafing through baseball records without knowing context? I think any reasonable baseball fan knows to take these numbers with a grain of salt. Why mess with the numbers? You leave them there, and everyone knows the truth anyway.
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Well I just voted for the proven offenders should have them thrown out and the only other vote is nothing. Who the heck voted for that? Baseball lives on its history and hallowed records. Allowing records to stand that happened because we know for sure the person cheated is an idea I just can't fathom and will never support. In my opinion because A-rod has admitted to cheating in 01, 02, and 03 his stats from those years should be stripped from his career. Same goes with any other players proven or admitted to use during specific time periods.

 

 

The biggest problem with your opinion is that there was no testing before 2003. Because of this, we really don't know what happened or what didn't happen. Now, baseball has a strict system in place. If you're caught, you face suspensions. Before that, there was no real way to know who did what when. We can speculate and guess, but that's all it is.

 

Frankly, I'm not going to get all that worked up about it. It's all contextual anyways. I can take these numbers into context, just as we can take pitching numbers into context that come from the dead ball era.

Posted

I voted nothing as well.

 

Much like what Derwood inferred, if you start throwing out the records of people who cheated today (especially if you don't have hard evidence), to be consistent you also much throw out the records of every person ever suspected of cheating who ever played the game.

 

I'm not crazy about having guys in the record books who were juiced up, but what makes one form of cheating worse than another? If you're going to start throwing out records, you have to dig back into the past and throw out records of everyone else who cheated - and use the same standards you are now. If you throw out the records of suspected, but not proven, users, throw out the records of guys who played in the 20s-70s who were suspected of cheating as well.

Posted
Baseball has a long tradition of cheating to get a competitive edge. Basically the mantra was it's ok as long as you don't get caught. There are HOF pitchers that threw spitballs. During the 70s players were taking amphetamines by the handful. The reason they started taking steroids was because they could and nobody cared. Do you really think that during the time when players were on 1 year contracts that they wouldn't take steroids if they were available? It would be pretty naive to think they wouldn't do whatever they could to stay around.

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