Prior back with the Padres

[cubbinalltheway]

oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so.

 

how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not?

 

you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

effort, willpower, desire, commitment.

 

look those words up. they all actually mean something.

 

And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster.

 

If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself.

what a stupid, stupid thing to say.

 

working hard to recover quickly isn't going to make him healthy faster? lol, are you serious here? have you ever had an injury that knocked you on your ass for a bit? i'm guessing not, otherwise you would know that your recovery can be expedited depending on how you intend to recoup.

[17 Seconds]

oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so.

 

how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not?

 

you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

effort, willpower, desire, commitment.

 

look those words up. they all actually mean something.

 

And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster.

 

If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself.

 

courage! heart! passion! intensity!

[17 Seconds]

oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so.

 

how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not?

 

you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

effort, willpower, desire, commitment.

 

look those words up. they all actually mean something.

 

And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster.

 

If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself.

 

what a stupid, stupid thing to say.

 

you really can't say that to other people

[fromthestretch]

oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so.

 

how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not?

 

you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

effort, willpower, desire, commitment.

 

look those words up. they all actually mean something.

 

And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster.

 

If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself.

what a stupid, stupid thing to say.

 

working hard to recover quickly isn't going to make him healthy faster? lol, are you serious here? have you ever had an injury that knocked you on your ass for a bit? i'm guessing not, otherwise you would know that your recovery can be expedited depending on how you intend to recoup.

 

And you're telling other people they need to learn how to read?

 

Yes, hard work can help you recover a little faster WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT THE INJURY IS AND YOU HAVE IT FIXED.

 

In Prior's case - which has been stated no less than 79 times in this thread - he had a shoulder injury that doctors (again, plural) missed. He had this injury for several years. It wasn't even discovered until he was with the Padres.

 

Seriously, please explain to me how someone can magically work hard to rehab an injury WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INJURY IS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[cubbinalltheway]

oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so.

 

how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not?

 

you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

effort, willpower, desire, commitment.

 

look those words up. they all actually mean something.

 

And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster.

 

If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself.

what a stupid, stupid thing to say.

 

working hard to recover quickly isn't going to make him healthy faster? lol, are you serious here? have you ever had an injury that knocked you on your ass for a bit? i'm guessing not, otherwise you would know that your recovery can be expedited depending on how you intend to recoup.

 

And you're telling other people they need to learn how to read?

 

Yes, hard work can help you recover a little faster WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT THE INJURY IS AND YOU HAVE IT FIXED.

 

In Prior's case - which has been stated no less than 79 times in this thread - he had a shoulder injury that doctors (again, plural) missed. He had this injury for several years. It wasn't even discovered until he was with the Padres.

 

Seriously, please explain to me how someone can magically work hard to rehab an injury WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INJURY IS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

he had that specific injury for years, or that injury was a result/effect of other previous injuries that occurred?

[17 Seconds]

oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so.

 

how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not?

 

you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

effort, willpower, desire, commitment.

 

look those words up. they all actually mean something.

 

And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster.

 

If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself.

what a stupid, stupid thing to say.

 

working hard to recover quickly isn't going to make him healthy faster? lol, are you serious here? have you ever had an injury that knocked you on your ass for a bit? i'm guessing not, otherwise you would know that your recovery can be expedited depending on how you intend to recoup.

 

you're just not understanding his point. he's not saying you don't have to work hard. he's saying that at a certain point, with certain injuries, you've maxed out the effect that working out has on your recovery. with serious injuries like prior had/has, working only can do so much. despite what fantasy you want to believe, there are injuries tht you can't just "work off". you can do what you can to help speed the process along, but prior couldn't just cure his injuries with work.

[soapy]

i'm always a big fan of people thinking they know a player's desire, work ethic, motivation, etc. maybe i just missed Prior's blog entry divulging his work-out schedule and inner most feelings.

[fromthestretch]

oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so.

 

how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not?

 

you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

effort, willpower, desire, commitment.

 

look those words up. they all actually mean something.

 

And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster.

 

If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself.

what a stupid, stupid thing to say.

 

working hard to recover quickly isn't going to make him healthy faster? lol, are you serious here? have you ever had an injury that knocked you on your ass for a bit? i'm guessing not, otherwise you would know that your recovery can be expedited depending on how you intend to recoup.

 

And you're telling other people they need to learn how to read?

 

Yes, hard work can help you recover a little faster WHEN YOU KNOW WHAT THE INJURY IS AND YOU HAVE IT FIXED.

 

In Prior's case - which has been stated no less than 79 times in this thread - he had a shoulder injury that doctors (again, plural) missed. He had this injury for several years. It wasn't even discovered until he was with the Padres.

 

Seriously, please explain to me how someone can magically work hard to rehab an injury WHEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE INJURY IS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

he had that specific injury for years, or that injury was a result/effect of other previous injuries that occurred?

 

I remember reading that they thought the injury may date as far back to his collision on the basepaths. That would point to the injury being there for at least a few years.

 

Again, it becomes very difficult to rehab an injury when you don't even know what the injury is.

[cubbinalltheway]

i'm always a big fan of people thinking they know a player's desire, work ethic, motivation, etc. maybe i just missed Prior's blog entry divulging his work-out schedule and inner most feelings.

so what should people assume then? that he's a gym rat or a guy who never works out? or because we don't know for a fact, should it not even be talked about in your opinion?

[SouthSideRyan]

i'm always a big fan of people thinking they know a player's desire, work ethic, motivation, etc. maybe i just missed Prior's blog entry divulging his work-out schedule and inner most feelings.

so what should people assume then? that he's a gym rat or a guy who never works out? or because we don't know for a fact, should it not even be talked about in your opinion?

 

Again we have yet to find out for a fact whether or not you are a rapist.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

i'm always a big fan of people thinking they know a player's desire, work ethic, motivation, etc. maybe i just missed Prior's blog entry divulging his work-out schedule and inner most feelings.

so what should people assume then? that he's a gym rat or a guy who never works out? or because we don't know for a fact, should it not even be talked about in your opinion?

 

He's a professional athlete who appears to be in excellent general health. Lacking evidence to the contrary, there's no reason to assume has suboptimal work habits. And arm injuries aren't evidence.

[fromthestretch]

oh well, you're just here to talk baseball

uhhhh yeah. let me know if you change your mind and would like to do so.

 

how is making baseless accusations about a player "talking baseball", but exposing it as stupidity is not?

 

you're right though. players can't possibly stay injured for 5 years if they are committed to getting healthy. it's impossible

effort, willpower, desire, commitment.

 

look those words up. they all actually mean something.

 

And not a single one of them was going to make him healthy any faster.

 

If you want to say you think he's lazy, so be it. What I do have a problem with is your claim that working harder was going to make him healthier or recover faster. It wasn't going to help, unless he was so dedicated that he went to medical school, became a doctor, examined his own shoulder, found the problem that other doctors (yes, that's plural) missed, and surgically repaired it himself.

what a stupid, stupid thing to say.

 

working hard to recover quickly isn't going to make him healthy faster? lol, are you serious here? have you ever had an injury that knocked you on your ass for a bit? i'm guessing not, otherwise you would know that your recovery can be expedited depending on how you intend to recoup.

 

you're just not understanding his point. he's not saying you don't have to work hard. he's saying that at a certain point, with certain injuries, you've maxed out the effect that working out has on your recovery. with serious injuries like prior had/has, working only can do so much. despite what fantasy you want to believe, there are injuries tht you can't just "work off". you can do what you can to help speed the process along, but prior couldn't just cure his injuries with work.

 

The biggest issue here is that he's flip-flopping between arguing about Prior's injury and injuries in general.

 

Hard work can help in rehabbing from most injuries. I don't think anyone is questioning that.

 

In Prior's case, which is what most people here are discussing, hard work wasn't going to do a damn bit of good. In fact, you could argue that working hard to get back on the mound to continue pitching with misdiagnosed structural damage still present in his shoulder could have risked making the injury worse (through no fault of Prior's).

[cubbinalltheway]

i'm always a big fan of people thinking they know a player's desire, work ethic, motivation, etc. maybe i just missed Prior's blog entry divulging his work-out schedule and inner most feelings.

so what should people assume then? that he's a gym rat or a guy who never works out? or because we don't know for a fact, should it not even be talked about in your opinion?

 

Again we have yet to find out for a fact whether or not you are a rapist.

what a disturbing thing to have enter your mind.

[soapy]

i'm always a big fan of people thinking they know a player's desire, work ethic, motivation, etc. maybe i just missed Prior's blog entry divulging his work-out schedule and inner most feelings.

so what should people assume then? that he's a gym rat or a guy who never works out? or because we don't know for a fact, should it not even be talked about in your opinion?

 

i'm simply saying we don't know and anyone who wants to claim he's lazy or that he's a gym rat is more than likely just pulling stuff out of his/her rear to justify their already formed opinions about him.

 

people used to say all of this same stuff about Wood. than people got a glimpse of what he was going through (training wise) and he stayed healthy for a year so now he's not a lazy, theiving, pansy anymore.

[cubbinalltheway]

i'm always a big fan of people thinking they know a player's desire, work ethic, motivation, etc. maybe i just missed Prior's blog entry divulging his work-out schedule and inner most feelings.

so what should people assume then? that he's a gym rat or a guy who never works out? or because we don't know for a fact, should it not even be talked about in your opinion?

 

i'm simply saying we don't know and anyone who wants to claim he's lazy or that he's a gym rat is more than likely just pulling stuff out of his/her rear to justify their already formed opinions about him.

 

people used to say all of this same stuff about Wood. than people got a glimpse of what he was going through (training wise) and he stayed healthy for a year so now he's not a lazy, theiving, pansy anymore.

fair enough.

 

in my defense, i wasnt the one who originally brought it up. people take issue with MY taking issue of the "he must work out for hours upon hours" suggestion.

[Derwood]

After reading this thread, I've formed a few quick character judgments myself

[abuck1220]

actually he was my favorite cub for a few years. surprised? i hated to see him go down. hated it. it's not like he didn't give me an autograph and now i hate him or something stupid like that.

 

That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort.

just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy.

 

to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded.

 

And you think it's okay to make up a complete personality workup of the guy and accuse him of negative personality traits based on nothing but a one-sentence sketch of his background?

make up? no. come to a conclusion based on what you know about a person? yeah.

 

YOU DON'T KNOW HIM.

[cubbinalltheway]

actually he was my favorite cub for a few years. surprised? i hated to see him go down. hated it. it's not like he didn't give me an autograph and now i hate him or something stupid like that.

 

That'd at least make sense. I'm trying to figure out how you figured out that he wasn't committed without monitoring his work effort.

just strikes me as a lazy guy. laid back, california kid who got things handed to him from a teenager on (because of his bad-assery at pitching) and got too wrapped up in the "life is good" mentality. again, i don't doubt his DESIRE to pitch. i just don't think he's a "give it your all" type of guy.

 

to everyone... disagree with me, fine. to suggest that my theory is 100% impossible is just, well, flat out stupid and insanely closed minded.

 

And you think it's okay to make up a complete personality workup of the guy and accuse him of negative personality traits based on nothing but a one-sentence sketch of his background?

make up? no. come to a conclusion based on what you know about a person? yeah.

 

YOU DON'T KNOW HIM.

LOUD NOISES!!!

 

don't have to know him. read enough articles, seen enough interviews, heard enough from people that do know him to reasonably form an opinion.

[abuck1220]

no you haven't.

[cubbinalltheway]

oooooh, tell me more. do you know my future as well or just my past?

[abuck1220]

i've read enough of you to reasonably form an opinion.

[cubbinalltheway]

i've read enough of you to reasonably form an opinion.

as have i

[laurens]

I really hope the best for Prior. God knows he deserves to be healthy.

[17 Seconds]

i've read enough of you to reasonably form an opinion.

as have i

 

see, this is what i'm talking about. what does that post even mean. "as have i"? that's just nonsense that has nothing to do with anything/

 

that exchange between you two was pretty classic though, since you accidentally contradicted yourself big time. you talk about how you can form an opinion based on miniscule information (which again, is really really dumb and ignorant), then when someone does the same about you, it's "you don't know me!". just like you don't know prior and certainly don't know enough about him to be forming stupid ass "opinions"

[cubbinalltheway]

i've read enough of you to reasonably form an opinion.

as have i

 

see, this is what i'm talking about. what does that post even mean.

do you speak english? how the hell do you not know what that post means.