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[BroLight]

MAYBE if they "threw in" GEOVANY SOTO and picked up like 60% of Soriano's contract, Boston would consider it.

 

I see why you are having such a tough time grasping this. YOU are the one that's NUTS!

 

It is BOSTON that is desperate, not the Cubs! The Cubs would be dealing from a position of strength, and regardless wouldn't be putting Soto or any regular, other than Soriano, in such a package.

 

Most teams wouldn't be willing to give up such an offensive threat, and that makes a deal for Soriano even more attractive.

 

Remember, I didn't say this was GOING to happen, only that it might. But if the Red Sox were indeed willing to see Beltran as a real offensive threat, how much more valuable would Soriano be to them?

Are you Alfonso Soriano's mom or something?

 

No, the old timers on this board know who I am, but for your info, I am someone that reads a lot of "lines", and because of my pedigree in the game, I know what needs to be done, and how to get it done. I am also able to read between those "lines", and keep my ears open. Although my contacts in the game are diminishing due to age and health issues, I still have a few of those, too.

 

I'd love to believe you have a clue what you're talking about. Most people here would love to believe Soriano has positive trade value. But most people here live in reality, where it's clear that Soriano's contract was atrocious even when they thought he could stay healthy and play center field. Now that we know he can't do either of those things, the Cubs are stuck paying a superstar salary to a pretty good but declining player who is already more trouble than he's worth.

 

You're talking two different things: Whether I have "clue" or not, and whether Soriano has any trade value.

 

The answer to the latter is YES, how much will be settled like most barters, by what you get in return, WHEN that bartering is finished, not before! We'll see if Boston can get what they are looking for without coming after Soriano. Is that possible? Sure! Not likely, but sure!

 

To the first, I'll debate any portion of the game you or anyone else would care to debate, but I'd hate to embarrass anyone, that's not my thing...but sometimes I have to come close just to get the attention of some of these dolts!

[SouthSideRyan]

 

To the first, I'll debate any portion of the game you or anyone else would care to debate, but I'd hate to embarrass anyone, that's not my thing...but sometimes I have to come close just to get the attention of some of these dolts!

 

Your opinion on sliding feet first into first base?

[javy knows my name]

Oh my God we have a challenger to Meph's throne of arrogance

[Moises a loo]

MAYBE if they "threw in" GEOVANY SOTO and picked up like 60% of Soriano's contract, Boston would consider it.

 

I see why you are having such a tough time grasping this. YOU are the one that's NUTS!

 

It is BOSTON that is desperate, not the Cubs! The Cubs would be dealing from a position of strength, and regardless wouldn't be putting Soto or any regular, other than Soriano, in such a package.

 

Most teams wouldn't be willing to give up such an offensive threat, and that makes a deal for Soriano even more attractive.

 

Remember, I didn't say this was GOING to happen, only that it might. But if the Red Sox were indeed willing to see Beltran as a real offensive threat, how much more valuable would Soriano be to them?

Are you Alfonso Soriano's mom or something?

 

No, the old timers on this board know who I am, but for your info, I am someone that reads a lot of "lines", and because of my pedigree in the game, I know what needs to be done, and how to get it done. I am also able to read between those "lines", and keep my ears open. Although my contacts in the game are diminishing due to age and health issues, I still have a few of those, too.

 

I'd love to believe you have a clue what you're talking about. Most people here would love to believe Soriano has positive trade value. But most people here live in reality, where it's clear that Soriano's contract was atrocious even when they thought he could stay healthy and play center field. Now that we know he can't do either of those things, the Cubs are stuck paying a superstar salary to a pretty good but declining player who is already more trouble than he's worth.

 

You're talking two different things: Whether I have "clue" or not, and whether Soriano has any trade value.

 

The answer to the latter is YES, how much will be settled like most barters, by what you get in return, WHEN that bartering is finished, not before! We'll see if Boston can get what they are looking for without coming after Soriano. Is that possible? Sure! Not likely, but sure!

 

To the first, I'll debate any portion of the game you or anyone else would care to debate, but I'd hate to embarrass anyone, that's not my thing...but sometimes I have to come close just to get the attention of some of these dolts!

oh you're gettin attention all right, well done there

[BroLight]

Wait wait wait...if he's "good people" why is he sitting on the bench pouting because he's only getting 200 ABs?

 

Also, Aaron Miles is a bad defender.

 

If Miles is such a bad defender, why is LaRussa upset at his front office for dropping the ball and letting Miles get away???? I'll take his evaluation of Miles over yours!

 

Even "good people" pout sometimes when they feel unjustly treated, are frustrated or sometimes on a bad day, even when they just don't get their way...kind of like you right now!

[javy knows my name]

Can he be :banned: now so I can go to sleep?

[USSoccer]

Wait wait wait...if he's "good people" why is he sitting on the bench pouting because he's only getting 200 ABs?

 

Also, Aaron Miles is a bad defender.

 

If Miles is such a bad defender, why is LaRussa upset at his front office for dropping the ball and letting Miles get away???? I'll take his evaluation of Miles over yours!

 

Even "good people" pout sometimes when they feel unjustly treated, are frustrated or sometimes on a bad day, even when they just don't get their way...kind of like you right now!

 

Holy hell you're making such terrible, awful arguments. I could care less what a manager says about a player. Neifi saved us once, remember? Sam Fuld is untouchable. Etc, etc.

 

I'll forget what I read on Baseball Reference about Aaron Miles being awful at baseball. If Tony LaRussa thinks he's good, that adds an invisible 30 points to your OPS+.

 

And BTW...you still haven't addressed that Milton Bradley will miss time (from both sides of the plate-i will concede that.) and that Soriano has played in 135 and 102 games as a Cub. He'd see time in both spots, and while you may have supreme confidence that Mike Fontenot is an everyday option, I'd rather hedge my bets and keep the versatile guy who, at worst, could make one half of a highly effective 2B platoon.

 

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go grow up and read Baseball for Dummies so that I might understand horrible logic a little bit better.

[BroLight]

inside tip on OPS guys, it's a product of ability to get on base and ability to hit the ball with power.

 

Technically it is the product of OBP & Slugging Pct. But BOTH are greatly influenced by the opportunites afforded through the BATTING ORDER!

 

"Technically" it's the product of OBP and SLG because that's what it is.

 

Neither are influenced much by the batting order because they are hitter dependent.

 

But hey, you used to be on Cubs.com and you are old and have old timey contacts, who I'm sure know all about OPS.

 

There is nothing "old timey" about baseball common sense. But then you young "whipper-snappers" never have shown much patience to really learn before you speak!

 

I suppose you think that players assigned to hit first, second or eighth have the same slugging opportunities as the other slots? Is that what you would have me believe? Is that what is "old timey"?

 

Leadoff hitters have a primary goal of getting on base for their whole AB. That's one of the reasons Soriano isn't any good at it.

 

Second hitters are NOT free to slug with runners on base, their first responsibility until they get strike two is moving the runner!

 

Eighth place hitters don't get much opportunity to slug because they don't get pitches to hit while hitting ahead of the pitcher!

 

Inbetween any hitter with a good hitter hitting behind him and/or with good OBP hitters ahead of him, will get better pitches to slug... as opposed to hitters in the same slots (perhaps on poorer teams or differnet days with different lineups on the same team) who do not have these advantages.

 

So you see there is much more to having a good OPS than being able to get on and slug....Batting order has a HUGE affect on the OPS opportunities of every hitter!

[USSoccer]

inside tip on OPS guys, it's a product of ability to get on base and ability to hit the ball with power.

 

Technically it is the product of OBP & Slugging Pct. But BOTH are greatly influenced by the opportunites afforded through the BATTING ORDER!

 

"Technically" it's the product of OBP and SLG because that's what it is.

 

Neither are influenced much by the batting order because they are hitter dependent.

 

But hey, you used to be on Cubs.com and you are old and have old timey contacts, who I'm sure know all about OPS.

 

There is nothing "old timey" about baseball common sense. But then you young "whipper-snappers" never have shown much patience to really learn before you speak!

 

I suppose you think that players assigned to hit first, second or eighth have the same slugging opportunities as the other slots? Is that what you would have me believe? Is that what is "old timey"?

 

Leadoff hitters have a primary goal of getting on base for their whole AB. That's one of the reasons Soriano isn't any good at it.

 

Second hitters are NOT free to slug with runners on base, their first responsibility until they get strike two is moving the runner!

 

Eighth place hitters don't get much opportunity to slug because they don't get pitches to hit while hitting ahead of the pitcher!

 

Inbetween any hitter with a good hitter hitting behind him and/or with good OBP hitters ahead of him, will get better pitches to slug... as opposed to hitters in the same slots (perhaps on poorer teams or differnet days with different lineups on the same team) who do not have these advantages.

 

So you see there is much more to having a good OPS than being able to get on and slug....Batting order has a HUGE affect on the OPS opportunities of every hitter!

 

 

Alfonso Soriano can't slug for crap.

 

Oh, wait. My brain must have been distracted by all the whippers I'm snapping.

[BroLight]

 

To the first, I'll debate any portion of the game you or anyone else would care to debate, but I'd hate to embarrass anyone, that's not my thing...but sometimes I have to come close just to get the attention of some of these dolts!

 

Your opinion on sliding feet first into first base?

 

Sliding into first base from home is stupid, no matter how you slide, unless you are trying to avoid the tag. In that case, you do what you can under the circumstances that prevail to try and avoid the tag and reach the bag.

 

If you're trying to trick me by meaning getting back to first, then it's stupid if you are just trying to get back to avoid the pickoff, as too much time is lost in positioning. But sliding back to first feet first is entirely appropriate if trying to get back to the bag on a play after an unexpected catch of the batted ball and you are going back fast enough to risk over sliding the bag. Otherwise head first is better on a going back play where no tag is required.

 

When a tag is required, generally it's better to go back feet first!

 

Does that answer your question?

[Mark_R]

Please never let this dude get banned. This is some great comedy on a boring Sunday Night!

[CUBZ99]

Wait wait wait...if he's "good people" why is he sitting on the bench pouting because he's only getting 200 ABs?

 

Also, Aaron Miles is a bad defender.

 

If Miles is such a bad defender, why is LaRussa upset at his front office for dropping the ball and letting Miles get away???? I'll take his evaluation of Miles over yours!

 

Even "good people" pout sometimes when they feel unjustly treated, are frustrated or sometimes on a bad day, even when they just don't get their way...kind of like you right now!

 

Holy hell you're making such terrible, awful arguments. I could care less what a manager says about a player. Neifi saved us once, remember? Sam Fuld is untouchable. Etc, etc.

 

I'll forget what I read on Baseball Reference about Aaron Miles being awful at baseball. If Tony LaRussa thinks he's good, that adds an invisible 30 points to your OPS+.

 

And BTW...you still haven't addressed that Milton Bradley will miss time (from both sides of the plate-i will concede that.) and that Soriano has played in 135 and 102 games as a Cub. He'd see time in both spots, and while you may have supreme confidence that Mike Fontenot is an everyday option, I'd rather hedge my bets and keep the versatile guy who, at worst, could make one half of a highly effective 2B platoon.

 

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go grow up and read Baseball for Dummies so that I might understand horrible logic a little bit better.

 

How are his arguments terrible logic? I think it says a lot about a player if his prior manager is upset for not resigning him. Contrary to popular opinion, baseball players aren't robot or stats only. You don't think a player can bring anything to a team other than his statistics? I'm sure that Tony Larussa is a bum and his multiple world series victories to you were only luck, but I would say that he has some perspective on what it take to go all the way.

 

BTW all this Miles bashing is exactly the same thing we heard when DeRosa was signed. Only when DeRo was signed it was for 3/13MM and not 2/5MM.

[BroLight]

Wait wait wait...if he's "good people" why is he sitting on the bench pouting because he's only getting 200 ABs?

 

Also, Aaron Miles is a bad defender.

 

If Miles is such a bad defender, why is LaRussa upset at his front office for dropping the ball and letting Miles get away???? I'll take his evaluation of Miles over yours!

 

Even "good people" pout sometimes when they feel unjustly treated, are frustrated or sometimes on a bad day, even when they just don't get their way...kind of like you right now!

 

Holy hell you're making such terrible, awful arguments. I could care less what a manager says about a player. Neifi saved us once, remember? Sam Fuld is untouchable. Etc, etc.

 

I'll forget what I read on Baseball Reference about Aaron Miles being awful at baseball. If Tony LaRussa thinks he's good, that adds an invisible 30 points to your OPS+.

 

And BTW...you still haven't addressed that Milton Bradley will miss time (from both sides of the plate-i will concede that.) and that Soriano has played in 135 and 102 games as a Cub. He'd see time in both spots, and while you may have supreme confidence that Mike Fontenot is an everyday option, I'd rather hedge my bets and keep the versatile guy who, at worst, could make one half of a highly effective 2B platoon.

 

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go grow up and read Baseball for Dummies so that I might understand horrible logic a little bit better.

 

BTW....I DID answer the ABs question in a lengthy detailed response about an hour and half ago! I just looked for it and didn't see it, so maybe it will show up later. FYI when I explained it and gave him the benefit of the doubt he still didn't reach 200 ABs for the coming season! But if I have to do it again, I'll be sure and allow for a few of Soriano's likely missed games. But with a better OF that bats LH available, like Gathright who has to get his ABs SOMEWHERE, I doubt that it would add too many to DeRo's likely total.

[Derwood]

can we PLEASE have a thread Hall of Fame?

[17 Seconds]

MAYBE if they "threw in" GEOVANY SOTO and picked up like 60% of Soriano's contract, Boston would consider it.

 

I see why you are having such a tough time grasping this. YOU are the one that's NUTS!

 

It is BOSTON that is desperate, not the Cubs! The Cubs would be dealing from a position of strength, and regardless wouldn't be putting Soto or any regular, other than Soriano, in such a package.

 

Most teams wouldn't be willing to give up such an offensive threat, and that makes a deal for Soriano even more attractive.

 

Remember, I didn't say this was GOING to happen, only that it might. But if the Red Sox were indeed willing to see Beltran as a real offensive threat, how much more valuable would Soriano be to them?

Are you Alfonso Soriano's mom or something?

 

No, the old timers on this board know who I am, but for your info, I am someone that reads a lot of "lines", and because of my pedigree in the game, I know what needs to be done, and how to get it done. I am also able to read between those "lines", and keep my ears open. Although my contacts in the game are diminishing due to age and health issues, I still have a few of those, too.

 

I'd love to believe you have a clue what you're talking about. Most people here would love to believe Soriano has positive trade value. But most people here live in reality, where it's clear that Soriano's contract was atrocious even when they thought he could stay healthy and play center field. Now that we know he can't do either of those things, the Cubs are stuck paying a superstar salary to a pretty good but declining player who is already more trouble than he's worth.

 

You're talking two different things: Whether I have "clue" or not, and whether Soriano has any trade value.

 

The answer to the latter is YES, how much will be settled like most barters, by what you get in return, WHEN that bartering is finished, not before! We'll see if Boston can get what they are looking for without coming after Soriano. Is that possible? Sure! Not likely, but sure!

 

To the first, I'll debate any portion of the game you or anyone else would care to debate, but I'd hate to embarrass anyone, that's not my thing...but sometimes I have to come close just to get the attention of some of these dolts!

 

You're really not understanding.

 

If Hendry called Theo Epstein and said "You can have Soriano, all you have to do is take on his entire contract", Epstein would say no. Soriano is not even close to being their type of player, and even if he was, they wouldn't want that awful contract.

 

If Boston was really as desperate as you say they are, they would have caved and given Teixeira that extra 15 million or whatever it was.

[CUBZ99]

MAYBE if they "threw in" GEOVANY SOTO and picked up like 60% of Soriano's contract, Boston would consider it.

 

I see why you are having such a tough time grasping this. YOU are the one that's NUTS!

 

It is BOSTON that is desperate, not the Cubs! The Cubs would be dealing from a position of strength, and regardless wouldn't be putting Soto or any regular, other than Soriano, in such a package.

 

Most teams wouldn't be willing to give up such an offensive threat, and that makes a deal for Soriano even more attractive.

 

Remember, I didn't say this was GOING to happen, only that it might. But if the Red Sox were indeed willing to see Beltran as a real offensive threat, how much more valuable would Soriano be to them?

Are you Alfonso Soriano's mom or something?

 

No, the old timers on this board know who I am, but for your info, I am someone that reads a lot of "lines", and because of my pedigree in the game, I know what needs to be done, and how to get it done. I am also able to read between those "lines", and keep my ears open. Although my contacts in the game are diminishing due to age and health issues, I still have a few of those, too.

 

I'd love to believe you have a clue what you're talking about. Most people here would love to believe Soriano has positive trade value. But most people here live in reality, where it's clear that Soriano's contract was atrocious even when they thought he could stay healthy and play center field. Now that we know he can't do either of those things, the Cubs are stuck paying a superstar salary to a pretty good but declining player who is already more trouble than he's worth.

 

You're talking two different things: Whether I have "clue" or not, and whether Soriano has any trade value.

 

The answer to the latter is YES, how much will be settled like most barters, by what you get in return, WHEN that bartering is finished, not before! We'll see if Boston can get what they are looking for without coming after Soriano. Is that possible? Sure! Not likely, but sure!

 

To the first, I'll debate any portion of the game you or anyone else would care to debate, but I'd hate to embarrass anyone, that's not my thing...but sometimes I have to come close just to get the attention of some of these dolts!

 

You're really not understanding.

 

If Hendry called Theo Epstein and said "You can have Soriano, all you have to do is take on his entire contract", Epstein would say no. Soriano is not even close to being their type of player, and even if he was, they wouldn't want that awful contract.

 

If Boston was really as desperate as you say they are, they would have caved and given Teixeira that extra 15 million or whatever it was.

 

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

[snoodmonger]

If Tim were to give BroLight a nickel every time he makes a stupid point and/or uses an exclamation point, how much money would he have?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

 

Then why didn't they give him that contract to begin with?

[CUBZ99]

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

 

Then why didn't they give him that contract to begin with?

 

Are you serious? LOL

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

 

Then why didn't they give him that contract to begin with?

 

Are you serious? LOL

 

Absolutely.

 

Every team in baseball had a chance to valuate Soriano when he was a free agent. The Cubs presumably valued him more than anyone else, or else someone else would have given him more money.

 

He has no trade value at his current contract. None. Zilch.

[17 Seconds]

MAYBE if they "threw in" GEOVANY SOTO and picked up like 60% of Soriano's contract, Boston would consider it.

 

I see why you are having such a tough time grasping this. YOU are the one that's NUTS!

 

It is BOSTON that is desperate, not the Cubs! The Cubs would be dealing from a position of strength, and regardless wouldn't be putting Soto or any regular, other than Soriano, in such a package.

 

Most teams wouldn't be willing to give up such an offensive threat, and that makes a deal for Soriano even more attractive.

 

Remember, I didn't say this was GOING to happen, only that it might. But if the Red Sox were indeed willing to see Beltran as a real offensive threat, how much more valuable would Soriano be to them?

Are you Alfonso Soriano's mom or something?

 

No, the old timers on this board know who I am, but for your info, I am someone that reads a lot of "lines", and because of my pedigree in the game, I know what needs to be done, and how to get it done. I am also able to read between those "lines", and keep my ears open. Although my contacts in the game are diminishing due to age and health issues, I still have a few of those, too.

 

I'd love to believe you have a clue what you're talking about. Most people here would love to believe Soriano has positive trade value. But most people here live in reality, where it's clear that Soriano's contract was atrocious even when they thought he could stay healthy and play center field. Now that we know he can't do either of those things, the Cubs are stuck paying a superstar salary to a pretty good but declining player who is already more trouble than he's worth.

 

You're talking two different things: Whether I have "clue" or not, and whether Soriano has any trade value.

 

The answer to the latter is YES, how much will be settled like most barters, by what you get in return, WHEN that bartering is finished, not before! We'll see if Boston can get what they are looking for without coming after Soriano. Is that possible? Sure! Not likely, but sure!

 

To the first, I'll debate any portion of the game you or anyone else would care to debate, but I'd hate to embarrass anyone, that's not my thing...but sometimes I have to come close just to get the attention of some of these dolts!

 

You're really not understanding.

 

If Hendry called Theo Epstein and said "You can have Soriano, all you have to do is take on his entire contract", Epstein would say no. Soriano is not even close to being their type of player, and even if he was, they wouldn't want that awful contract.

 

If Boston was really as desperate as you say they are, they would have caved and given Teixeira that extra 15 million or whatever it was.

 

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

 

It's not aobut earning his contract to this point. It's about whether or not he'll earn the rrest of his contract. You know that perfectly well, and it's the reason why people think the contract is awful. He's basiaclly be making 18 million until he's 39. Not good.

 

I reallllly don't think he'd take Soriano back with that contract. I'm like 99% positive. I mean, think about it signing him as a free agent right now. We all know how Boston builds offenses. When was the last time they spent good money on a non OBP/walk guy?

 

Plus there's his age and the fact that his legs look like they're breaking down. We all know how good the Red Sox usually are with not keeping guys too long and getting locked into many bad contracts.

 

I mean, other than the draft pick they'd hypothetically lose, it's basically like they'd be signing a free agent. You think if Soriano was a free agent right now the Red Sox would give him a 6/106 contract? Forget the fact that he's 33 and showing signs of breaking down physically.... he's just not at all their type of player. They've been successful by avoiding those types of players and fully embracing sabermetrics (I mean, come on, they employ Bill james).

 

So no, I don't see how you can call what I said ridiculous. To me it's ridiculous to think they'd give Soriano 6/106 now. To me that's about as likely as them trying to bring Manny back.

[CUBZ99]

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

 

Then why didn't they give him that contract to begin with?

 

Are you serious? LOL

 

Absolutely.

 

Every team in baseball had a chance to valuate Soriano when he was a free agent. The Cubs presumably valued him more than anyone else, or else someone else would have given him more money.

 

He has no trade value at his current contract. None. Zilch.

 

And its impossible that his value changed due to inflation or the fact that he is improving his career numbers? To say he has no trade value is about as stupid as it gets.

[17 Seconds]

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

 

Then why didn't they give him that contract to begin with?

 

Are you serious? LOL

 

Absolutely.

 

Every team in baseball had a chance to valuate Soriano when he was a free agent. The Cubs presumably valued him more than anyone else, or else someone else would have given him more money.

 

He has no trade value at his current contract. None. Zilch.

 

He seems to be under the impression that just because they wouldn't have to give up players to acquire him (in this hypothetical situation we're discussing) that it means they're getting him for free or something like that.

 

No, they're not. Not even close. They're getting him at the cost of a horrible, horrible contract.... something the Red Sox are usually really good at avoiding.

 

Soriano at 6/106 right now is a bad move.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

 

Then why didn't they give him that contract to begin with?

 

Are you serious? LOL

 

Absolutely.

 

Every team in baseball had a chance to valuate Soriano when he was a free agent. The Cubs presumably valued him more than anyone else, or else someone else would have given him more money.

 

He has no trade value at his current contract. None. Zilch.

 

And its impossible that his value changed due to inflation or the fact that he is improving his career numbers? To say he has no trade value is about as stupid as it gets.

 

There's been no inflation and he's coming off two seasons that were worse than the one before his contract.

 

Something's definitely as stupid as it gets here...

[17 Seconds]

Now you are sounding as ridiculous as you claim that BroLight sounds. Epstien would gladly take Soriano and his contract if he didn't have to give up anything. Its not like the Red Sox are hurting for money and its not like Soriano hasn't earned his contract to this point.

 

Then why didn't they give him that contract to begin with?

 

Are you serious? LOL

 

Absolutely.

 

Every team in baseball had a chance to valuate Soriano when he was a free agent. The Cubs presumably valued him more than anyone else, or else someone else would have given him more money.

 

He has no trade value at his current contract. None. Zilch.

 

And its impossible that his value changed due to inflation or the fact that he is improving his career numbers? To say he has no trade value is about as stupid as it gets.

 

Wait, inflation? Have you seen what's been going on this offseason? Have you not heard about the economy? Adam Dunn is probably only going to get like 2-3 years. I haven't Burrell's name once. Manny is coming off yet another monster season and barely anybody wants to pay him.

 

Outside of what the Yankees are doing, contracts are down, not up. K-Rod just got 3/37 when a year ago Cordero got 5/50.