Re: Peavy High on Cubs Wish List

[cubsfan26]

Now the reports are that the Cubs need to dump salary just to get Bradley. If that is true, there is no way that Peavy will fit under the budget.

 

 

If Hendry worked that hard to get a deal close to being done, I'm sure he has a plan to fit both Peavy and Bradley in the budget. Lets not forget their also interested in Randy Johnson if they trade Marquis. Right now I believe the Cubs have at least 5-6m to offer Bradley for next year. Which is enough if they backload his deal so he only makes 6m the first year.

[Little Slide Rooter]

if the cubs were trading carlos zambrano, would you guys be happy with getting sean marshall, kevin hart, josh vitters, cedeno, etc in return?

Of course not but if you're a Padres fan, the blame rests with the owner, not the GM.

 

Towers doesn't seem to be playing the cards he's been dealt real well here, but let's not lose sight of the fact that the cards were crappy to begin with.

 

It dosnt sound like the fans enter into it. Its about the Padres as a company downsizing and rebuilding with cheaper labor. Towers wasnt in a position in which making the fans happy was an option.

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Now the reports are that the Cubs need to dump salary just to get Bradley. If that is true, there is no way that Peavy will fit under the budget.

 

no offense, but do we really have to keep going over this?

[abuck1220]

if the cubs were trading carlos zambrano, would you guys be happy with getting sean marshall, kevin hart, josh vitters, cedeno, etc in return?

 

No because our payroll is like $150 million and we can afford to not have to trade one of our SPs for young players who may or may not pan out.

 

that doesn't matter. you wouldn't like that return if the cubs were forced to trade z for whatever reason, but you think it's ridiculous to give up that package to get peavy. obviously it's not that great of an offer.

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that doesn't matter. you wouldn't like that return if the cubs were forced to trade z for whatever reason, but you think it's ridiculous to give up that package to get peavy. obviously it's not that great of an offer.

 

there's a lot wrong with this logic. putting aside the fact that our situation is completely different than san diego's (both financially and on the field), why do you think that was the offer? i'm sure it was better than that. plys the padres have zero leverage right now, so that kills the package they're going to get back. peavy's ntc is really going to cost them in what kind of talent they get back. when you basically have one or 2 teams that you can actually deal with, it's hard to get true value.

[cubswin2009]

Trade back on!?!?!?!?!

Jake Peavy's agent confident trade talks will heat up

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-13-peavydec13,0,5722560.story

A proposed trade with the Cubs for Padres pitcher Jake Peavy fell through this week during baseball's winter meetings in Las Vegas. Peavy's agent, however, is confident trade talks could heat up again this season.

 

"The word on the street here is the Padres are in pretty dire financial straits, partly because of the economy and partly because of a 99-loss season and partly because the owner and his wife are going through a pretty difficult divorce," Barry Axelrod said Thursday.

 

"And the word is they cannot infuse more money into the team right now. Without that, they are looking at a team in the $40 million [salary] range. If that's the case, then it is hard to win. And I am not sure that they can go with a $40 million payroll and pay one guy (Peavy) $11 million. It is likely between now and the middle of next year, Jake won't be with the Padres."

 

Axelrod described Peavy as being "frustrated and disappointed" after the trade talks with the Cubs came to a halt, at least temporarily.

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Trade back on!?!?!?!?!

Jake Peavy's agent confident trade talks will heat up

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-13-peavydec13,0,5722560.story

A proposed trade with the Cubs for Padres pitcher Jake Peavy fell through this week during baseball's winter meetings in Las Vegas. Peavy's agent, however, is confident trade talks could heat up again this season.

 

"The word on the street here is the Padres are in pretty dire financial straits, partly because of the economy and partly because of a 99-loss season and partly because the owner and his wife are going through a pretty difficult divorce," Barry Axelrod said Thursday.

 

"And the word is they cannot infuse more money into the team right now. Without that, they are looking at a team in the $40 million [salary] range. If that's the case, then it is hard to win. And I am not sure that they can go with a $40 million payroll and pay one guy (Peavy) $11 million. It is likely between now and the middle of next year, Jake won't be with the Padres."

 

Axelrod described Peavy as being "frustrated and disappointed" after the trade talks with the Cubs came to a halt, at least temporarily.

 

where does that even come close to saying the trade is back on? all that is is the opinion of an agent...an opinion that most of have. of course it could heat back up. nothing new there.

[cubswin2009]

Trade back on!?!?!?!?!

Jake Peavy's agent confident trade talks will heat up

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-13-peavydec13,0,5722560.story

A proposed trade with the Cubs for Padres pitcher Jake Peavy fell through this week during baseball's winter meetings in Las Vegas. Peavy's agent, however, is confident trade talks could heat up again this season.

 

"The word on the street here is the Padres are in pretty dire financial straits, partly because of the economy and partly because of a 99-loss season and partly because the owner and his wife are going through a pretty difficult divorce," Barry Axelrod said Thursday.

 

"And the word is they cannot infuse more money into the team right now. Without that, they are looking at a team in the $40 million [salary] range. If that's the case, then it is hard to win. And I am not sure that they can go with a $40 million payroll and pay one guy (Peavy) $11 million. It is likely between now and the middle of next year, Jake won't be with the Padres."

 

Axelrod described Peavy as being "frustrated and disappointed" after the trade talks with the Cubs came to a halt, at least temporarily.

 

where does that even come close to saying the trade is back on? all that is is the opinion of an agent...an opinion that most of have. of course it could heat back up. nothing new there.

I don't know. The tribune website has a tease as the title "Cubs may get 2nd shot at Peavy"

[UMFan83]

if the cubs were trading carlos zambrano, would you guys be happy with getting sean marshall, kevin hart, josh vitters, cedeno, etc in return?

 

No because our payroll is like $150 million and we can afford to not have to trade one of our SPs for young players who may or may not pan out.

 

that doesn't matter. you wouldn't like that return if the cubs were forced to trade z for whatever reason, but you think it's ridiculous to give up that package to get peavy. obviously it's not that great of an offer.

 

It does matter. A big part of the reason for the Cubs offering what they did is because of the situation the Padres are in. Sure if the Cubs were in a situation where they HAD to get rid of Z, then I would probably dislike that package. But if I HAD to get rid of Z, I'd live with that. It's probably just as good or slightly better than what the Twins got from the Mets for Johan. But that's not the scenario you posed originally.

[UMFan83]

Trade back on!?!?!?!?!

Jake Peavy's agent confident trade talks will heat up

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-13-peavydec13,0,5722560.story

A proposed trade with the Cubs for Padres pitcher Jake Peavy fell through this week during baseball's winter meetings in Las Vegas. Peavy's agent, however, is confident trade talks could heat up again this season.

 

"The word on the street here is the Padres are in pretty dire financial straits, partly because of the economy and partly because of a 99-loss season and partly because the owner and his wife are going through a pretty difficult divorce," Barry Axelrod said Thursday.

 

"And the word is they cannot infuse more money into the team right now. Without that, they are looking at a team in the $40 million [salary] range. If that's the case, then it is hard to win. And I am not sure that they can go with a $40 million payroll and pay one guy (Peavy) $11 million. It is likely between now and the middle of next year, Jake won't be with the Padres."

 

Axelrod described Peavy as being "frustrated and disappointed" after the trade talks with the Cubs came to a halt, at least temporarily.

 

Just agent speak because Peavy doesn't want to be on a crappy team anymore. It will be up to the Padres to initiate trade talks again, and if they do it will be up to Peavy to ensure that the Cubs are the only team that is in the bidding. If that occurs, the Cubs will be back in the discussions.

[CUBZ99]

Trade back on!?!?!?!?!

Jake Peavy's agent confident trade talks will heat up

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-13-peavydec13,0,5722560.story

A proposed trade with the Cubs for Padres pitcher Jake Peavy fell through this week during baseball's winter meetings in Las Vegas. Peavy's agent, however, is confident trade talks could heat up again this season.

 

"The word on the street here is the Padres are in pretty dire financial straits, partly because of the economy and partly because of a 99-loss season and partly because the owner and his wife are going through a pretty difficult divorce," Barry Axelrod said Thursday.

 

"And the word is they cannot infuse more money into the team right now. Without that, they are looking at a team in the $40 million [salary] range. If that's the case, then it is hard to win. And I am not sure that they can go with a $40 million payroll and pay one guy (Peavy) $11 million. It is likely between now and the middle of next year, Jake won't be with the Padres."

 

Axelrod described Peavy as being "frustrated and disappointed" after the trade talks with the Cubs came to a halt, at least temporarily.

 

where does that even come close to saying the trade is back on? all that is is the opinion of an agent...an opinion that most of have. of course it could heat back up. nothing new there.

I don't know. The tribune website has a tease as the title "Cubs may get 2nd shot at Peavy"

 

Maybe this thread can gain steam again and push ahead to 200+ pages...

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By the way, Churchill told me that Wren called Towers last night and things may heat back up there

[bhogg]

i'm [expletive] faced of crown royal and len peavy should ptich for the cobs.amen.

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Churchill-

 

Mike says they haven't talked in 24 hours. I dunno what that means, but, I know the Phillies have moved on and are working on other things that would remove them as the third team.

 

I also heard Hendry has gathered his think tank and are talking about sealing a deal for an outfielder asap and looking into Derek Lowe.

 

If Lowe is interested, it's a nice fit, and leaves some room for the Cubs to look for bullpen help or up-the-middle help, whether that be this winter or during the season.

[UK1679666180]

Churchill-

 

Mike says they haven't talked in 24 hours. I dunno what that means, but, I know the Phillies have moved on and are working on other things that would remove them as the third team.

 

I also heard Hendry has gathered his think tank and are talking about sealing a deal for an outfielder asap and looking into Derek Lowe.

 

If Lowe is interested, it's a nice fit, and leaves some room for the Cubs to look for bullpen help or up-the-middle help, whether that be this winter or during the season.

 

I've warmed up to Lowe, with him being in as good shape as he is and that clean bill of health, despite his age, he looks like a pitcher I would not object to them offering a multi-year deal for.

[RammyFanny]

Churchill-

 

Mike says they haven't talked in 24 hours. I dunno what that means, but, I know the Phillies have moved on and are working on other things that would remove them as the third team.

 

I also heard Hendry has gathered his think tank and are talking about sealing a deal for an outfielder asap and looking into Derek Lowe.

 

If Lowe is interested, it's a nice fit, and leaves some room for the Cubs to look for bullpen help or up-the-middle help, whether that be this winter or during the season.

 

I've warmed up to Lowe, with him being in as good shape as he is and that clean bill of health, despite his age, he looks like a pitcher I would not object to them offering a multi-year deal for.

Before I knew about Peavy, Lowe was the guy I wanted. He fits Wrigley about as perfect as can be. However, I read today that he might not be interested in how many years rather than how much per year, which would likely mean he'd be impossible to fit in the budget.

[UK1679666180]

Churchill-

 

Mike says they haven't talked in 24 hours. I dunno what that means, but, I know the Phillies have moved on and are working on other things that would remove them as the third team.

 

I also heard Hendry has gathered his think tank and are talking about sealing a deal for an outfielder asap and looking into Derek Lowe.

 

If Lowe is interested, it's a nice fit, and leaves some room for the Cubs to look for bullpen help or up-the-middle help, whether that be this winter or during the season.

 

I've warmed up to Lowe, with him being in as good shape as he is and that clean bill of health, despite his age, he looks like a pitcher I would not object to them offering a multi-year deal for.

Before I knew about Peavy, Lowe was the guy I wanted. He fits Wrigley about as perfect as can be. However, I read today that he might not be interested in how many years rather than how much per year, which would likely mean he'd be impossible to fit in the budget.

 

I think that pitching in Wrigley stuff is overrated, the wind blows in just as much if not more than out. It's not a matter of him preventing HRs with his sinker when it's on, it's a matter of ground ball vs. line drive.

 

With the crap that Burnett got, it definitely makes it more difficult for the Cubs to compete with teams looking at that second tier pitching (although I think Lowe is worth more per year than Burnett based on production).

[haubrich91]

Wasn't Lowe demanding something like $15M a year? No thanks.

[Bruce Miles]

Wasn't Lowe demanding something like $15M a year? No thanks.

 

Randy Johnson is the pitcher highest on their radar.

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Wasn't Lowe demanding something like $15M a year? No thanks.

 

Randy Johnson is the pitcher highest on their radar.

 

Do you know of any other pitchers that might be on the radar?

[cubswin2009]

If we can't get Peavy I'd like Johnson just to see a Cubs pitcher get their 300th win.

[Bruce Miles]

Wasn't Lowe demanding something like $15M a year? No thanks.

 

Randy Johnson is the pitcher highest on their radar.

 

Do you know of any other pitchers that might be on the radar?

 

Not really. They're focusing on Bradley right now, along with trading Marquis.

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Wasn't Lowe demanding something like $15M a year? No thanks.

 

Randy Johnson is the pitcher highest on their radar.

 

Do you know of any other pitchers that might be on the radar?

 

Not really. They're focusing on Bradley right now, along with trading Marquis.

 

Thanks. What do you think is the holdup on Bradley? It sounds like e want him and he wants to come here. Just contract haggling I assume, but do you think it oculd happen soon? I'm afraid the Rays are going to steal him from us.

[cubswin2009]

Wasn't Lowe demanding something like $15M a year? No thanks.

 

Randy Johnson is the pitcher highest on their radar.

 

Do you know of any other pitchers that might be on the radar?

 

Not really. They're focusing on Bradley right now, along with trading Marquis.

 

Thanks. What do you think is the holdup on Bradley? It sounds like e want him and he wants to come here. Just contract haggling I assume, but do you think it oculd happen soon? I'm afraid the Rays are going to steal him from us.

The holdup is probably Marquis.

[17 Seconds]

Wasn't Lowe demanding something like $15M a year? No thanks.

 

Randy Johnson is the pitcher highest on their radar.

 

Do you know of any other pitchers that might be on the radar?

 

Not really. They're focusing on Bradley right now, along with trading Marquis.

 

Thanks. What do you think is the holdup on Bradley? It sounds like e want him and he wants to come here. Just contract haggling I assume, but do you think it oculd happen soon? I'm afraid the Rays are going to steal him from us.

The holdup is probably Marquis.

 

why? they needed to dump marquis to get peavy AND a rf. if they were able to add peavy's salary AND sign a rf before if we dumped marquis, then i don't see how we can't afford bradley as is.... especially when they've been much said this and said what the payroll will be.