Does anyone trust Bob Howry?

[Schwarber Fan]

I don't mean to clog up the board with threads from last night, but this applies overall.

 

At times Bob Howry looks lights out, but he always seems to give up a few hits or a run in a meaningful spot. Lou is gonna keep using him in crucial spots which is gonna be painful to watch. Even last year during his hot stretch, I didn't trust the guy at all.

 

Anyone else feel this way? I don't think I'm alone.

[Little Slide Rooter]

I just dont get how it seems like Howry gives up at least 1 run every time he pitches, but then Lou loses complete confidence in Wuertz and Lieber after 1 bad inning depite pitching once a week if that.

[rawaction]

Lou Piniella trusts him, that's the problem.

[Mizzou]

No. Howry has been pretty bad this year.

[Jon]

Howry's GB/FB/LD percentages are nearly identical to last season, yet he's on pace to give up roughly 1.5x as many HRs. That has been his main problem this season.

 

Of course, those percentages aren't as good as they were a few years ago, but that's not terribly surprising:

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/graphs/237_P_daily_full_9_20080721.png

 

His K/BB is actually at a career best this season, as is his BB/9, yet his BABIP against is a career worst.

 

I think he's been unlucky.

 

There has been one other change, however. His fastball % has dropped from 10.4% and his slider % has increased 13.3% from last season.

[Soul]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Bob Howry is a good reliever. He's been an okay one this year, and a good one since the end of April.

[Old Style]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

[abuck1220]

i trust him to throw 92 mph batting practice every time he goes out there.

[nick23]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

[Choonch]

All Howry throws are fastballs. No, I don't trust him.

[Old Style]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

[nick23]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem.

[abuck1220]

i would like to tell myself that lee wouldn't have crapped all over himself so bad if they were only down one.

[Old Style]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem.

How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time.

[nick23]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem.

How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time.

First of all Aramis would've probably been walked. Several things could've of played out differently. Look, I'm not saying the offense wasn't the problem last night, but to say Howry wasn't either is just flat wrong.

[nick23]

Bob Howry is a good reliever. He's been an okay one this year, and a good one since the end of April.

Well, he's not a good one right now. He's given up 5 runs in his last 7 outings.

[abuck1220]

How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time.

 

who said he was? are we only allowed to discuss/complain about the cubs' #1 problem?

[Old Style]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem.

How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time.

First of all Aramis would've probably been walked. Several things could've of played out differently. Look, I'm not saying the offense wasn't the problem last night, but to say Howry wasn't either is just flat wrong.

What? They would have walked him with 2 outs and no one on base?

[nick23]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem.

How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time.

First of all Aramis would've probably been walked. Several things could've of played out differently. Look, I'm not saying the offense wasn't the problem last night, but to say Howry wasn't either is just flat wrong.

What? They would have walked him with 2 outs and no one on base?

Theriot was on 3rd.

[rocket]

Bob Howry is a good reliever. He's been an okay one this year, and a good one since the end of April.

 

howry was god-awful in april. he was excellent in may. he sucked in june, and he sucks this month.

 

using my nerd calculations, that puts howry at less than okay. he hasn't been good.

[Old Style]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem.

How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time.

First of all Aramis would've probably been walked. Several things could've of played out differently. Look, I'm not saying the offense wasn't the problem last night, but to say Howry wasn't either is just flat wrong.

What? They would have walked him with 2 outs and no one on base?

Theriot was on 3rd.

Forgot about Theriot. So they walk Aramis to get to Soto and then what? he hasn't been hitting anything lately either. He was a whopping 0 for 3 last night.

[Mizzou]

I know a lot of people don't put much value in batting average, but it's worth noting that opponents are hitting just under .300 off of Howry this year.

[nick23]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem.

How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time.

First of all Aramis would've probably been walked. Several things could've of played out differently. Look, I'm not saying the offense wasn't the problem last night, but to say Howry wasn't either is just flat wrong.

What? They would have walked him with 2 outs and no one on base?

Theriot was on 3rd.

Forgot about Theriot. So they walk Aramis to get to Soto and then what? he hasn't been hitting anything lately either. He was a whopping 0 for 3 last night.

Whatever dude. Howry sucked last night just like he's been sucking for the last two weeks. IMO he's a major concern over the next two months. Put it like this, I'm more concerned with Bob Howry than I am with the offense.

[Soul]

Meh, he gives up one run last night in a game where we got shut out and our pitching gave up a total of 2 runs.

 

Howry wasn't the problem last night.

BINGO!

 

Seriously? Giving up a run in the bottom of the 8th in a one run game is not a problem? Would it have been a problem if Aramis gets a hit in the 9th?

Did it even matter? The hitters have been pathetic lately. Are you going to rip Harden for giving up a HR to a guy that's hitting .250 on the year and had never hit a HR in his major league career before? Randy Johnson was far from overpowering last night. We should have been able to score at least 2 or 3 runs off of him.

Who knows if it mattered? There's no way to know how the 9th would've played out if it was a one run game. And comparing Harden's run and Howry's run is pretty ridiculous. By your logic though Howry could've come in and given up 6 runs and it wouldn't have been a problem.

How does one run change the way we batted in the 9th? You guys are letting your hatred for Howry blind you to the disaster that is our offense right now. I'm not a big Howry fan, but he is not the problem at the present time.

First of all Aramis would've probably been walked. Several things could've of played out differently. Look, I'm not saying the offense wasn't the problem last night, but to say Howry wasn't either is just flat wrong.

What? They would have walked him with 2 outs and no one on base?

Theriot was on 3rd.

Forgot about Theriot. So they walk Aramis to get to Soto and then what? he hasn't been hitting anything lately either. He was a whopping 0 for 3 last night.

Whatever dude. Howry sucked last night just like he's been sucking for the last two weeks. IMO he's a major concern over the next two months. Put it like this, I'm more concerned with Bob Howry than I am with the offense.

 

He still wasn't the problem last night. The problem was the goose egg next to our name. Period.