Fuentes could be traded soon

[TheDude]

That's really not that steep a price at all if Fuentes is going to be Type A.

Wade Davis though? He's only second to Price in their farm right?

 

I saw those names and nearly choked. Relievers won't command starters that young and high.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

That's really not that steep a price at all if Fuentes is going to be Type A.

Wade Davis though? He's only second to Price in their farm right?

 

I saw those names and nearly choked. Relievers won't command starters that young and high.

 

Tampa has a ton of arms, and I'm not familiar with Davis' stuff. He's putting up kinda pedestrian numbers in AA this year, and isn't young for the level. Seems like that list(save Kennedy) is like that. Guys with really solid backgrounds with some kinda blemish. Buchholz hasn't been able to stick in MLB, and Niese isn't an uberprospect(unless his stuff is off the charts, I don't know). If I were Boston or Tampa, I'd pay that price for Fuentes knowing I get two picks at the top of the draft to replace that guy, plus they have the depth to absorb losing that player.

[biittner77]

Don't Howry and Eyre both come off the books after this year? It seems to me that the Cubs can afford to overpay for Fuentes as they have a good chance of being able to afford re signing him. Hendry has never shyed away from spending big on BP guys and has done worse than Fuentes. That would also give them insurance against having to overpay Wood if he decided that he wanted to get paid frontline closer money somewhere else.

[Guest]

That's really not that steep a price at all if Fuentes is going to be Type A.

Wade Davis though? He's only second to Price in their farm right?

 

I saw those names and nearly choked. Relievers won't command starters that young and high.

 

Tampa has a ton of arms, and I'm not familiar with Davis' stuff. He's putting up kinda pedestrian numbers in AA this year, and isn't young for the level. Seems like that list(save Kennedy) is like that. Guys with really solid backgrounds with some kinda blemish. Buchholz hasn't been able to stick in MLB, and Niese isn't an uberprospect(unless his stuff is off the charts, I don't know). If I were Boston or Tampa, I'd pay that price for Fuentes knowing I get two picks at the top of the draft to replace that guy, plus they have the depth to absorb losing that player.

 

Davis has good stuff and has struggled a bit this year. Probably still considered a top 50 prospect in the game and a potential #2 starter. The Rays' top 2 pitching prospects now are probably Price and Hellickson with Davis dropping down a bit and McGee having Tommy John surgery.

 

Wade Davis is worth more than Sean Marshall, imo.

[Hall7810]

From Gammons' blog:

The Cardinals, Angels and Rays are also in on Fuentes, and the feeling is that the Cardinals are the favorites. Colorado likes the Cards' farm system.

[RedFlash]

From Gammons' blog:

The Cardinals, Angels and Rays are also in on Fuentes, and the feeling is that the Cardinals are the favorites. Colorado likes the Cards' farm system.

 

They are the only ones, then.

[Clem Fandango]

From ESPN's trade deadline ticker...

 

An executive involved in the Brian Fuentes trade talks says the Rockies are "pulling back" and don't seem like they intend to trade him now that they are moving into contention in the National League West. The Mets are still among the teams interested in Fuentes.

 

Rockies GM Dan O'Dowd told SI.com that it's "highly unlikely" Colorado would trade Fuentes or Matt Holliday.

[WindyCity]

Per Ken Rosenthal:

The Rockies remain willing to trade closer Brian Fuentes if they can acquire a young starting pitcher whom they could plug immediately into their rotation.

 

Given that, would you do a Marshall for Fuentes swap? It seems like Marshall in the pen for us is a bit of a waste (unless they keep him as a tag team with Harden). Having a shutdown lefty like Fuentes may be in the better short-term win-now interests of the club.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I thought Marshall for Fuentes matched up what Colorado was asking for prior to that, and I'd still do it. Helps alleviate the rotation crunch next year, bolsters the pen, and we get a couple picks to replace Marshall with. Very little downside.

[jersey cubs fan]

I thought Marshall for Fuentes matched up what Colorado was asking for prior to that, and I'd still do it. Helps alleviate the rotation crunch next year, bolsters the pen, and we get a couple picks to replace Marshall with. Very little downside.

 

I don't think that should be considered a "pro" to the trade.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I thought Marshall for Fuentes matched up what Colorado was asking for prior to that, and I'd still do it. Helps alleviate the rotation crunch next year, bolsters the pen, and we get a couple picks to replace Marshall with. Very little downside.

 

I don't think that should be considered a "pro" to the trade.

 

Sure it is. There's going to be too many people for not enough spots, and that's going to make constructing and maintaining the roster more difficult. You get two months of Fuentes and two top picks(or extended Fuentes). I mean I guess you could say waiting til the offseason might allow you to use the excess of pitching better, but a top notch reliever for the stretch run plus two top picks is certainly a worthwhile return.

[jersey cubs fan]

I thought Marshall for Fuentes matched up what Colorado was asking for prior to that, and I'd still do it. Helps alleviate the rotation crunch next year, bolsters the pen, and we get a couple picks to replace Marshall with. Very little downside.

 

I don't think that should be considered a "pro" to the trade.

 

Sure it is. There's going to be too many people for not enough spots, and that's going to make constructing and maintaining the roster more difficult. You get two months of Fuentes and two top picks(or extended Fuentes). I mean I guess you could say waiting til the offseason might allow you to use the excess of pitching better, but a top notch reliever for the stretch run plus two top picks is certainly a worthwhile return.

 

No, it isn't.

 

Getting Fuentes is clearly a pro, and trading Marshall for him may be a good idea, but it has nothing to do with a " rotation crunch".

 

Injury, free agency, loss of effectiveness, and potential offseason trades are all things that can and likely will happen to clear out any perceived over supply of pitching. If you want to trade Marshall for Fuentes, do it because you think Fuentes value is greater than Marshall's, don't do it, even in part, because you think it will be easier to deal with roster moves this offseason with Marshall out of the picture.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Is this really a point worth arguing? Fine, say Marshall because we have depth there, in addition to the much more important acquiring Fuentes and draft picks.

[jersey cubs fan]

Is this really a point worth arguing? Fine, say Marshall because we have depth there, in addition to the much more important acquiring Fuentes and draft picks.

 

I'm not arguing. Don't need to when you're right. :good:

[RedFlash]

With the Rockies back to 10 games under .500 and within 6 games of 1st, I'm going to say it now....Brian Fuentes will not be traded.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

With the Rockies back to 10 games under .500 and within 6 games of 1st, I'm going to say it now....Brian Fuentes will not be traded.

are you just regurgitating things you heard Steve Phillips say?

[Hall7810]

Honestly, what's a fair price for him: Marshall/Ascanio?

[Butterscup1679666578]

Honestly, what's a fair price for him: Marshall/Ascanio?

 

Too much, IMO.

[rocket]

i think marshall for fuentes straight up is fair for both teams. marshall was a good pitcher in 19 starts for the cubs last year.

[bukie]

I'm not a fan of acquiring a relief pitcher for any more than monetary assets. Fuentes for Marshall harkens back to the days of Karchner for Garland to me.

[A New Era]

With only like a day or 2 to go. . .

 

 

Will Hendry surprise us?

[RedFlash]

With the Rockies back to 10 games under .500 and within 6 games of 1st, I'm going to say it now....Brian Fuentes will not be traded.

are you just regurgitating things you heard Steve Phillips say?

 

No, I am going with the fact that no team is going to give up the prospects needed for the Rockies to bypass collectig the picks when Fuentes leaves via FA. That and the fact that NL West is so crappy, the Rockies still are "theorticially" still in this race. So unless they get blow away with an offer, my belief is Fuentes won't be dealt. And KC is in no hurry to move Mahay. So, the irony of this deadline is....the best Loogy possibly available (after Marte being dealt, and Fuentes/Mahay are wishy-washy on availability) could be Will Ohman. I consider Sherrill a lefty set up/closer, along with Fuentes, whereas Mahay is a loogy with Ohman.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not a fan of acquiring a relief pitcher for any more than monetary assets. Fuentes for Marshall harkens back to the days of Karchner for Garland to me.

 

Type A

[CuseCubFan69]

With the Rockies back to 10 games under .500 and within 6 games of 1st, I'm going to say it now....Brian Fuentes will not be traded.

are you just regurgitating things you heard Steve Phillips say?

 

How can you go wrong doing that?

[Guest]

I sat next to a colorado scout a couple days ago on a flight. He was convinced they were still in it and wouldn't make a move.