Cardinals luckiest team in baseball history

[Transmogrified Tiger]

None of the other potential wild card teams are better then the Cardinals. None. I know it hurts to see that, but it's the truth. When they are healthy, they have a 1-2 of Wainwright and Carpenter, they have Pujols, Ankiel (not great, but a lot of power), Ludwick (maybe fluky, but he always had a lot of potential for power. Look at his 90% mark on PECOTA), Glaus (Heating up, not great, has power), and probably Rasmus before September.

 

That's better then the Brewers, Mets, Dodgers, Marlins, Braves, etc...

 

The Cardinals have a shot at the wild card, especially being in the lead currently. However, when you look down the roster, they don't compare to their competitors.

 

Carpenter and Wainwright are both currently injured, Carpenter is questionable to even pitch in 2008, and if he does there's a strong likelihood he won't be at his best. Latest news is that Wainwright will be out until August. The Dodgers(Billingsley, Kuroda, Lowe, Kershaw) and Braves(Hudson, Jurrjens, Campillo, Reyes/Glavine) have a better rotation, and the Mets(Santana, Maine) and Brewers(Sheets, Suppan) are better at the top of the rotation.

 

Pujols is the best player in the game, but Ludwick and Ankiel are not much after him. Ankiel has a flawed approach and has about a .740 OPS since April. Ludwick outhit anything he's ever done, and has fallen off to a .737 OPS in June. Glaus is a quality player, but not spectacular. The Brewers with Fielder, Braun, Hart, and Cameron are more formidable, as are the Braves(Jones, Teixeira, McCann, Johnson), and the Mets(Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Church) and Marlins(Ramirez, Uggla, Cantu, Hermida) are similar.

 

The Cards could still make the playoffs, but it won't be because their talent is the class of the wild card contenders.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

As far as a team coming out of the East, I wouldn't count out the Braves turning it around. They could go either way, but their record in on-run games indicates that they have been very unlucky.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Well, it appears Ludwick is crashing back to earth.......765 June OPS...JJ Hardy Part II?

[Soul]

As far as a team coming out of the East, I wouldn't count out the Braves turning it around. They could go either way, but their record in on-run games indicates that they have been very unlucky.

 

I wouldn't count it out either.

 

I've been disappointed at how little fight they've been putting up against Milwaukee though. Without Chipper I don't like their lineup much, he'll have to stop having quad-strains and what not that keep him out.

[chitowngui]

any team that makes the playoffs has good talent... and any team that can make the playoffs can win the world series. Cards proved that in 2006 with their record/team going into the playoffs.

 

The Cards could still make the playoffs, but it won't be because their talent is the class of the wild card contenders.

[RedVerbs]

None of the other potential wild card teams are better then the Cardinals. None. I know it hurts to see that, but it's the truth. When they are healthy, they have a 1-2 of Wainwright and Carpenter, they have Pujols, Ankiel (not great, but a lot of power), Ludwick (maybe fluky, but he always had a lot of potential for power. Look at his 90% mark on PECOTA), Glaus (Heating up, not great, has power), and probably Rasmus before September.

 

That's better then the Brewers, Mets, Dodgers, Marlins, Braves, etc...

 

The Cardinals have a shot at the wild card, especially being in the lead currently. However, when you look down the roster, they don't compare to their competitors.

 

Carpenter and Wainwright are both currently injured, Carpenter is questionable to even pitch in 2008, and if he does there's a strong likelihood he won't be at his best. Latest news is that Wainwright will be out until August. The Dodgers(Billingsley, Kuroda, Lowe, Kershaw) and Braves(Hudson, Jurrjens, Campillo, Reyes/Glavine) have a better rotation, and the Mets(Santana, Maine) and Brewers(Sheets, Suppan) are better at the top of the rotation.

 

Pujols is the best player in the game, but Ludwick and Ankiel are not much after him. Ankiel has a flawed approach and has about a .740 OPS since April. Ludwick outhit anything he's ever done, and has fallen off to a .737 OPS in June. Glaus is a quality player, but not spectacular. The Brewers with Fielder, Braun, Hart, and Cameron are more formidable, as are the Braves(Jones, Teixeira, McCann, Johnson), and the Mets(Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Church) and Marlins(Ramirez, Uggla, Cantu, Hermida) are similar.

 

The Cards could still make the playoffs, but it won't be because their talent is the class of the wild card contenders.

 

Yes, but I was just speaking for if they are at full strength, I would fear the Cardinals more then the Mets/Brewers/Braves. I mean, of course Ludwick and Ankiel have flaws, but so does Reyes, and Church has never been this good either (and never has he ever been projected to be, which makes him much more likely a fluke, unlike Ludwick and Ankiel who have legit power). The Brewers out of all the teams you listed have the more formidable lineup, but Carpenter, Wainwright, Wellemeyer and Pinerio is far better then Ben Sheets, Suppan, Parra, Dave Bush. To me, anyway.

 

The Dodgers have a talented rotation but the lineup is the pits.

 

And you'd really have more confidence in facing Atlanta then the Cardinals? The Braves have always been pushovers.

[abuck1220]

everyone in the universe has projected church to be better than ankiel and ludwick. and are you comparing jose reyes to those two cardinals?

[Vanilla Ice]

None of the other potential wild card teams are better then the Cardinals. None. I know it hurts to see that, but it's the truth. When they are healthy, they have a 1-2 of Wainwright and Carpenter, they have Pujols, Ankiel (not great, but a lot of power), Ludwick (maybe fluky, but he always had a lot of potential for power. Look at his 90% mark on PECOTA), Glaus (Heating up, not great, has power), and probably Rasmus before September.

 

That's better then the Brewers, Mets, Dodgers, Marlins, Braves, etc...

 

The Cardinals have a shot at the wild card, especially being in the lead currently. However, when you look down the roster, they don't compare to their competitors.

 

Carpenter and Wainwright are both currently injured, Carpenter is questionable to even pitch in 2008, and if he does there's a strong likelihood he won't be at his best. Latest news is that Wainwright will be out until August. The Dodgers(Billingsley, Kuroda, Lowe, Kershaw) and Braves(Hudson, Jurrjens, Campillo, Reyes/Glavine) have a better rotation, and the Mets(Santana, Maine) and Brewers(Sheets, Suppan) are better at the top of the rotation.

 

Pujols is the best player in the game, but Ludwick and Ankiel are not much after him. Ankiel has a flawed approach and has about a .740 OPS since April. Ludwick outhit anything he's ever done, and has fallen off to a .737 OPS in June. Glaus is a quality player, but not spectacular. The Brewers with Fielder, Braun, Hart, and Cameron are more formidable, as are the Braves(Jones, Teixeira, McCann, Johnson), and the Mets(Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Church) and Marlins(Ramirez, Uggla, Cantu, Hermida) are similar.

 

The Cards could still make the playoffs, but it won't be because their talent is the class of the wild card contenders.

 

Yes, but I was just speaking for if they are at full strength, I would fear the Cardinals more then the Mets/Brewers/Braves. I mean, of course Ludwick and Ankiel have flaws, but so does Reyes, and Church has never been this good either (and never has he ever been projected to be, which makes him much more likely a fluke, unlike Ludwick and Ankiel who have legit power). The Brewers out of all the teams you listed have the more formidable lineup, but Carpenter, Wainwright, Wellemeyer and Pinerio is far better then Ben Sheets, Suppan, Parra, Dave Bush. To me, anyway.

 

The Dodgers have a talented rotation but the lineup is the pits.

 

And you'd really have more confidence in facing Atlanta then the Cardinals? The Braves have always been pushovers.

I might take the Brewers rotation anyways, but if you include Carpenter you have to include Gallardo

[SouthSideRyan]

What's with the infusion of Cardinals fans pretending to be Cubs fans? There's no reason to pretend, we're fine with Wolf and CFICT, (and I think a few others?) Don't hide your homerism behind this I'm a Cubs fan, but ya gotta admit Ryan Ludwick is a pretty similar player to Jose Reyes thing.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

What's with the infusion of Cardinals fans pretending to be Cubs fans? There's no reason to pretend, we're fine with Wolf and CFICT, (and I think a few others?) Don't hide your homerism behind this I'm a Cubs fan, but ya gotta admit Ryan Ludwick is a pretty similar player to Jose Reyes thing.

 

 

Great point. Regardless of what you may have heard, there aren't mass bannings of other team's fans unless you're a hopeless troll. Make an educated post and don't start with the "1908 crap" and stuff like that, and we're more than willing to debate with you. SSR mentioned some and other team fans include Jake (Pirates), Ender (Brewers), and others.

 

There's really no reason to have to hide your team allegiance as long as you aren't a troll.

[NCCubFan]

None of the other potential wild card teams are better then the Cardinals. None. I know it hurts to see that, but it's the truth. When they are healthy, they have a 1-2 of Wainwright and Carpenter, they have Pujols, Ankiel (not great, but a lot of power), Ludwick (maybe fluky, but he always had a lot of potential for power. Look at his 90% mark on PECOTA), Glaus (Heating up, not great, has power), and probably Rasmus before September.

 

That's better then the Brewers, Mets, Dodgers, Marlins, Braves, etc...

 

The Cardinals have a shot at the wild card, especially being in the lead currently. However, when you look down the roster, they don't compare to their competitors.

 

Carpenter and Wainwright are both currently injured, Carpenter is questionable to even pitch in 2008, and if he does there's a strong likelihood he won't be at his best. Latest news is that Wainwright will be out until August. The Dodgers(Billingsley, Kuroda, Lowe, Kershaw) and Braves(Hudson, Jurrjens, Campillo, Reyes/Glavine) have a better rotation, and the Mets(Santana, Maine) and Brewers(Sheets, Suppan) are better at the top of the rotation.

 

Pujols is the best player in the game, but Ludwick and Ankiel are not much after him. Ankiel has a flawed approach and has about a .740 OPS since April. Ludwick outhit anything he's ever done, and has fallen off to a .737 OPS in June. Glaus is a quality player, but not spectacular. The Brewers with Fielder, Braun, Hart, and Cameron are more formidable, as are the Braves(Jones, Teixeira, McCann, Johnson), and the Mets(Wright, Beltran, Reyes, Church) and Marlins(Ramirez, Uggla, Cantu, Hermida) are similar.

 

The Cards could still make the playoffs, but it won't be because their talent is the class of the wild card contenders.

 

Yes, but I was just speaking for if they are at full strength, I would fear the Cardinals more then the Mets/Brewers/Braves. I mean, of course Ludwick and Ankiel have flaws, but so does Reyes, and Church has never been this good either (and never has he ever been projected to be, which makes him much more likely a fluke, unlike Ludwick and Ankiel who have legit power). The Brewers out of all the teams you listed have the more formidable lineup, but Carpenter, Wainwright, Wellemeyer and Pinerio is far better then Ben Sheets, Suppan, Parra, Dave Bush. To me, anyway.

 

The Dodgers have a talented rotation but the lineup is the pits.

 

And you'd really have more confidence in facing Atlanta then the Cardinals? The Braves have always been pushovers.

*Cough*1998*Cough*

[NonProfitCow]

I'm guessing you're talking about "Mute and RedVerbs?"