Mark Prior...I mean Chris Carpenter suffers another setback.

[Little Slide Rooter]

http://rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=2371

[Keener98]

But all the Cardinal fans have said he'd be back in July and immediately regain Cy Young status???

[Post Count Padder]

Good

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Carpenter is getting his second opinion from Dr. James Andrews. That's never a name you want to hear in regards to your pitcher. Edited June 15, 2008 by vance_the_cubs_fan

[BCVM22]

Carpeneter is getting his second opinion from Dr. James Andrews. That's never a name you want to hear in regards to your pitcher.

 

Holy kiss of death, Batman. I hope I never hear the names Andrews or Yocum mentioned in the same sentence as any of my joints or ligaments.

[TruffleShuffle]

too bad. he had plenty of talent, but it took him a while to put it all together, and then (of course) he did it with the cardinals for a relatively brief time. he wasn't as dominant as mike scott, but perhaps their career paths will follow a similar route - peaking as a great pitcher in the early 30s, then struggling with injuries and ending up out of baseball before long.

[TruffleShuffle]

Carpenter had a setback in his rehab, and it sounds like it's the oldest one in the book. After the surgery that has since taken his name, Tommy John himself had ulnar neuritis, which is a swelling of the nerve that you and I call the funny bone. It led to a change in the surgery by some physicians, moving (transposing) the nerve out of its normal groove in order to keep it from being irritated by the new ligament. No one is really sure why it happens in some cases, but surgeons continue to debate whether or not to move the nerve as a matter of course or whether to leave it in place, since most players have no issues. I once watched several top surgeons heatedly debate this at the Injuries in Baseball Course back in 2003, and was surprised at the passion they held for their position. Carpenter's irritation will be checked by Jim Andrews to see if he'll need rest or surgery to transpose the nerve. Rest would set him back about a month, pushing a return to August, while the surgery would end his chances for '08 and put it at around the start of spring training next season. Either way, the team now needs to fill that gap in their rotation and are hoping that Mark Mulder can at least be league average after some progress in his second go round at rehab. We'll have more word on Carpenter after his visit to Birmingham today.

[davearm2]

I find it amazing to consider that the chance remains that ultimately, the Cards could end up paying this guy $63M for 1 lousy start (literally and figuratively).

 

I suppose the odds that the guy never pitches in the majors again are probably small, but you read news like this, and suddenly it doesn't sound quite so hard to imagine.

[Faceman]

Making fun of Cards fans who said Carp would be back sooner, that's fine.Calling Carpenter "Prior" is beyond lame.  Not even close enough to be a funny joke.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Making fun of Cards fans who said Carp would be back sooner, that's fine.Calling Carpenter "Prior" is beyond lame.  Not even close enough to be a funny joke.

look who started the thread

[imb]

Making fun of Cards fans who said Carp would be back sooner, that's fine.Calling Carpenter "Prior" is beyond lame. Not even close enough to be a funny joke.

 

why don't you go cry about it on some crappy cardinals website yeah i said it

[XZero771679666304]

Making fun of Cards fans who said Carp would be back sooner, that's fine.Calling Carpenter "Prior" is beyond lame. Not even close enough to be a funny joke.

 

It was lame, but it's not like Carp had been the picture of health prior to this, either. It may well end up being like Kerry Wood's situation: get injured early, come back and string together a few full, productive seasons, then break down.

[A New Era]

Making fun of Cards fans who said Carp would be back sooner, that's fine.Calling Carpenter "Prior" is beyond lame.  Not even close enough to be a funny joke.

 

Ok, "Towel boy #2 then".

[TruffleShuffle]

Making fun of Cards fans who said Carp would be back sooner, that's fine.Calling Carpenter "Prior" is beyond lame. Not even close enough to be a funny joke.

 

your bad for not having LLF on your ignore list.

[Soul]

If the Cards want to unload him, I'd take a flyer on him. Who knows, maybe after everything clears he can be a mid rotation guy -- maybe a Dempster-type situation or something.

 

I like Carp quite a bit if he's at all healthy. I don't think it's a big surprise he's going through this, given that he basically came to the Cards because of his injury history. It's just becoming a question of how long the Cards want to wait for him to get back, get stretched out again, and get back into a groove. My guess is that will probably be somewhere in mid '09. You might see him earlier, but it will take some time to resemble his old self.

[mul21]

News down here yesterday after he got looked at by Andrews wasthat no additional surgery was needed and just a little backing off on the rehab would be the way to go right now. Sounds like the new target date for a return is late August/early September.

[Faceman]

wow, I had no idea the rep LLF has. Sorry all.

 

I do not expect the 2005 Carp back. I would expect him to be better than anyone not named Wainright though. We'll see. He's not getting any younger either.

[javy knows my name]

Making fun of Cards fans who said Carp would be back sooner, that's fine.Calling Carpenter "Prior" is beyond lame. Not even close enough to be a funny joke.

 

It was lame, but it's not like Carp had been the picture of health prior to this, either. It may well end up being like Kerry Wood's situation: get injured early, come back and string together a few full, productive seasons, then break down.

Look what you did!