4/30: Brewers (Suppan) @ Cubs (Dempster), 7:05, WCIU, ESPN

[bcl412]

Did we miss something with the Cardinals? I thought they were supposed to have a crappy lineup & pitching staff, and pretty much just be in a down year.

They do have a crappy lineup, and they do have a crappy pitching staff. But just like in 2006, it's not stopping them from outperforming those pesky little facts.

 

 

How come we never have any years like that?

 

1998's about as close as we've come to something like that. I think the 98 team was a good bit better than this Cardinal team, though.

 

 

Just looking at stats and Kevin Tapani went 19-9 with a 4.85 ERA.

 

The classic example of old school vs new school.

 

19 wins is stellar, but a 4.85 ERA is very average.

 

We also had Marc Pisciotta on that team, I believe. It's startling the poor baseball players who were on that team.

 

2001 our team was pretty bad (excepts Sosa and Lieber) and we were one of the best teams in the league until September

[weis21]

It isn't going to be long until I want Lou fired. I'm almost there.

 

I'm with you.

[dew1679666265]

Did we miss something with the Cardinals? I thought they were supposed to have a crappy lineup & pitching staff, and pretty much just be in a down year.

They do have a crappy lineup, and they do have a crappy pitching staff. But just like in 2006, it's not stopping them from outperforming those pesky little facts.

 

 

How come we never have any years like that?

 

1998's about as close as we've come to something like that. I think the 98 team was a good bit better than this Cardinal team, though.

In 2001, the Cubs basically rode Sammy, Lieber, Wood and a decent bullpen to playoff contention into September. That was another one.

 

But you'll notice on neither occasion did we make it to the World Series. Or come close.

 

Good thinking on 2001.

 

And on that is exactly what infuriates me about the Cardinals. We have a miracle year and we either miss the playoffs barely (01) or we get swept in the first round (98). They have a miracle year and they win it all.

 

I hate St. Louis.

[bcl412]

Did we miss something with the Cardinals? I thought they were supposed to have a crappy lineup & pitching staff, and pretty much just be in a down year.

They do have a crappy lineup, and they do have a crappy pitching staff. But just like in 2006, it's not stopping them from outperforming those pesky little facts.

 

 

How come we never have any years like that?

 

1998's about as close as we've come to something like that. I think the 98 team was a good bit better than this Cardinal team, though.

In 2001, the Cubs basically rode Sammy, Lieber, Wood and a decent bullpen to playoff contention into September. That was another one.

 

But you'll notice on neither occasion did we make it to the World Series. Or come close.

 

Good thinking on 2001.

 

And on that is exactly what infuriates me about the Cardinals. We have a miracle year and we either miss the playoffs barely (01) or we get swept in the first round (98). They have a miracle year and they win it all.

 

I hate St. Louis.

 

The thing with the Cardinals is the year they won the World Series they really didn't have a miracle year.(They won 83 freaking games) There was just no one in the division who was good at all. So it makes you even more angry. In a year when they are the definition of mediocre they win the freaking series.

[dew1679666265]

Did we miss something with the Cardinals? I thought they were supposed to have a crappy lineup & pitching staff, and pretty much just be in a down year.

They do have a crappy lineup, and they do have a crappy pitching staff. But just like in 2006, it's not stopping them from outperforming those pesky little facts.

 

 

How come we never have any years like that?

 

1998's about as close as we've come to something like that. I think the 98 team was a good bit better than this Cardinal team, though.

 

 

Just looking at stats and Kevin Tapani went 19-9 with a 4.85 ERA.

 

The classic example of old school vs new school.

 

19 wins is stellar, but a 4.85 ERA is very average.

 

We also had Marc Pisciotta on that team, I believe. It's startling the poor baseball players who were on that team.

 

2001 our team was pretty bad (excepts Sosa and Lieber) and we were one of the best teams in the league until September

 

Very true, very true. Am I the only one who had completely forgotten about Courtney Duncan and Mike Fyhrie? I completely forgot they even existed.

 

Plus we had Ron Coomer starting....was that the year Mueller went down?

[dew1679666265]

Did we miss something with the Cardinals? I thought they were supposed to have a crappy lineup & pitching staff, and pretty much just be in a down year.

They do have a crappy lineup, and they do have a crappy pitching staff. But just like in 2006, it's not stopping them from outperforming those pesky little facts.

 

 

How come we never have any years like that?

 

1998's about as close as we've come to something like that. I think the 98 team was a good bit better than this Cardinal team, though.

In 2001, the Cubs basically rode Sammy, Lieber, Wood and a decent bullpen to playoff contention into September. That was another one.

 

But you'll notice on neither occasion did we make it to the World Series. Or come close.

 

Good thinking on 2001.

 

And on that is exactly what infuriates me about the Cardinals. We have a miracle year and we either miss the playoffs barely (01) or we get swept in the first round (98). They have a miracle year and they win it all.

 

I hate St. Louis.

 

The thing with the Cardinals is the year they won the World Series they really didn't have a miracle year.(They won 83 freaking games) There was just no one in the division who was good at all. So it makes you even more angry. In a year when they are the definition of mediocre they win the freaking series.

 

The miracle part was intended more for the playoff run. The division was terrible, but they had no business winning a single playoff game. Much less winning it all.

[dew1679666265]

Wow.

 

I just noticed while looking on baseball reference that, in 99, Shane Andrews had only 17 hits for us.

 

The weird thing is, five of those were home runs and four were doubles. 17 hits with 9 going for extra bases.

 

Oh yes, that was a truly terrible roster.

[bcl412]

Did we miss something with the Cardinals? I thought they were supposed to have a crappy lineup & pitching staff, and pretty much just be in a down year.

They do have a crappy lineup, and they do have a crappy pitching staff. But just like in 2006, it's not stopping them from outperforming those pesky little facts.

 

 

How come we never have any years like that?

 

1998's about as close as we've come to something like that. I think the 98 team was a good bit better than this Cardinal team, though.

 

 

Just looking at stats and Kevin Tapani went 19-9 with a 4.85 ERA.

 

The classic example of old school vs new school.

 

19 wins is stellar, but a 4.85 ERA is very average.

 

We also had Marc Pisciotta on that team, I believe. It's startling the poor baseball players who were on that team.

 

2001 our team was pretty bad (excepts Sosa and Lieber) and we were one of the best teams in the league until September

 

Very true, very true. Am I the only one who had completely forgotten about Courtney Duncan and Mike Fyhrie? I completely forgot they even existed.

 

Plus we had Ron Coomer starting....was that the year Mueller went down?

 

Julio Zuleta, Roosevelt Brown,Damon Buford.

 

This was also the year Z made his debut. I think he got rocked in the second game of a double header. I also think Juan Cruz made his debut the first game and dominated. Who knew who Z was going to be the ace?

[dew1679666265]

It isn't going to be long until I want Lou fired. I'm almost there.

 

I'm with you.

 

I'm not close yet.

 

Lou does some very odd things, but to this point he hasn't done anything that will definitely hurt our young players. Pie, Cedeno, Marshall, etc. should be playing more but they're not getting stuck at the end of the bench and ignored, at least.

[C.C.]

That's enough. I'm getting depressed with all the Cards and crappy Cubs talk.

 

Let's win tonight!

[bcl412]

It isn't going to be long until I want Lou fired. I'm almost there.

 

I'm with you.

 

I'm not close yet.

 

Lou does some very odd things, but to this point he hasn't done anything that will definitely hurt our young players. Pie, Cedeno, Marshall, etc. should be playing more but they're not getting stuck at the end of the bench and ignored, at least.

 

The thing that is keeping me from wanting him to get fired is, almost every manager (at least any manager we'll hire because we seem to like guys who have name recognition)is going to have that stupid old school mentality so it won't make a difference who the manager is.

[killthegoat06]

Imagine how happy we'd be if we had Billy Beane as a manager.

[dew1679666265]

Did we miss something with the Cardinals? I thought they were supposed to have a crappy lineup & pitching staff, and pretty much just be in a down year.

They do have a crappy lineup, and they do have a crappy pitching staff. But just like in 2006, it's not stopping them from outperforming those pesky little facts.

 

 

How come we never have any years like that?

 

1998's about as close as we've come to something like that. I think the 98 team was a good bit better than this Cardinal team, though.

 

 

Just looking at stats and Kevin Tapani went 19-9 with a 4.85 ERA.

 

The classic example of old school vs new school.

 

19 wins is stellar, but a 4.85 ERA is very average.

 

We also had Marc Pisciotta on that team, I believe. It's startling the poor baseball players who were on that team.

 

2001 our team was pretty bad (excepts Sosa and Lieber) and we were one of the best teams in the league until September

 

Very true, very true. Am I the only one who had completely forgotten about Courtney Duncan and Mike Fyhrie? I completely forgot they even existed.

 

Plus we had Ron Coomer starting....was that the year Mueller went down?

 

Julio Zuleta, Roosevelt Brown,Damon Buford.

 

This was also the year Z made his debut. I think he got rocked in the second game of a double header. I also think Juan Cruz made his debut the first game and dominated. Who knew who Z was going to be the ace?

 

Zuleta was awesome, I don't care if he had crappy numbers (which he did). I liked his voodoo. But yeah, Rosey and Buford were truly horrible.

I can top you on terrible names, though. Todd Dunwoody and Manny Aybar saw playing time with the team.

 

And I actually preferred Z to Cruz. I was terribly worried about Cruz's miniscule frame. I wanted him in the pen and Z to start. At the time, though, I liked Scott Chiasson.

[dew1679666265]

It isn't going to be long until I want Lou fired. I'm almost there.

 

I'm with you.

 

I'm not close yet.

 

Lou does some very odd things, but to this point he hasn't done anything that will definitely hurt our young players. Pie, Cedeno, Marshall, etc. should be playing more but they're not getting stuck at the end of the bench and ignored, at least.

 

The thing that is keeping me from wanting him to get fired is, almost every manager (at least any manager we'll hire because we seem to like guys who have name recognition)is going to have that stupid old school mentality so it won't make a difference who the manager is.

 

Exactly. We're going to have some old school element no matter who our manager is. Lou is pushing OBP on offense and getting pitchers to limit their walks. So long as he doesn't crush the future of our young guys, I'm fine with him.

 

Just to give you an idea, even Bobby Cox - probably the best manager in the game today - has old school elements to his philosophy.

[dew1679666265]

That's enough. I'm getting depressed with all the Cards and crappy Cubs talk.

 

Let's win tonight!

 

Reminiscing on the horrible players of old actually makes me feel more positive about this team. Even Theriot isn't as bad as, for instance, Kevin Orie.

 

I did just realize, though, Matt Mieske had some nice numbers in 98 (.299/.373/.402).

 

But yes, I can agree that we need to win today. :D

[manbearcub]

[expletive] blackout.

[hawkeyecub]

Can anyone explain to me why tonight's WCIU game is blacked out on ESPN when last week's WCIU game vs. the Mets wasn't blacked out on ESPN?

 

This blows.

[dew1679666265]

DirecTV EI is only offering the Brewer telecast, so I'll go with Steve Phillips and whoever is doing the game with him on ESPN.

 

Plus, the ESPN broadcast has Erin Andrews. =P~

[erik316wttn]

Just in the last half hour I became pissed off for whatever reason. I hope this team doesn't make me any more mad.

[manbearcub]

AND no radio, this is lovely.

[cubsfan5150]

No walks tonight Dumpster. I predict that if Dumpster can stay under 3 walks, we win.

[manbearcub]

Can anyone explain to me why tonight's WCIU game is blacked out on ESPN when last week's WCIU game vs. the Mets wasn't blacked out on ESPN?

 

This blows.

God hates the Hawkeyes.

[erik316wttn]

I still never learned what happened to the ump last night that had to leave the game. Pat said he was released from the hospital today and he'll be fine.

[Rob]

Are you guys sure there's a blackout? I'm in Bloomington, IL (only about 2 hours south of Chicago), and I've got it on ESPN to this point. If there's a blackout, surely I'm in the zone?

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I just remembered I'm in blackout range (but not in WCIU range). Shoot.

 

And my regular sopcast link has every game but that one. Double shoot.