Cubs All-Star team

[OleMissCub]

OK, so I'm going to start this series of polls which can get us to narrow down a Cubs All-Star team of all time (not counting pre-20th century). The requirements (off the top of my head) are 500 games played (with the Cubs) for position players, 150 games started for starters, and 150 appearances for relievers (so no Mercker, GEOVANY SOTO, Neifury, or Macias). We'll have an A and a B team with the B team consisting of those with the second most votes.

 

Before I start the polling I'd like to see what the consensus is of maybe the top 4 or 5 at each position for the Cubs that will be nominated. Please help me out if I miss anyone. These are in no order.

 

SP:

Ferguson Jenkins

Greg Maddux

Mordecai Brown

Hippo Vaughn

Grover Cleveland Alexander

 

RP:

Bruce Sutter

Lee Smith

Randy Myers

??

 

C:

Gabby Hartnett (I don't think this one is much of a contest, probably no use in even having a poll.)

Jody Davis

 

1B:

Mark Grace

Phil Cavarretta

Frank Chance

Derrek Lee

Charlie Grimm

 

2B:

Ryne Sandberg

Glen Beckert

Johnny Evers

Billy Herman

 

3B:

Ron Santo

Aramis Ramirez

Stan Hack

 

SS:

Ernie Banks (not sure there should even be a poll on this one either)

Joe Tinker

Don Kessinger

 

OF:(top 3)

Billy Williams

Kiki Cuyler

Hack Wilson

Sammy Sosa

Bill Nicholson

Frank Schulte

Andre Dawson

Andy Pafko

Hank Sauer

[McEvans]

HOTTY TODDY!

 

You can go ahead and close those 1st, 2nd and third base polls too.

[TheGrinch]

HOTTY TODDY!

 

You can go ahead and close those 1st, 2nd and third base polls too.

Do I know who you are?

[Post Count Padder]

SP- Jenkins

RP- Sutter

C- Hartnett

1B- Grace

2B- Ryno

SS- Ernie

3B- Ronny

OF- Sammy

OF- Billy

OF- Hack

 

I was gonna nominate Cap Anson, but saw that it's since 1900.

[Bull]

HOTTY TODDY!

 

You can go ahead and close those 1st, 2nd and third base polls too.

 

I'm not so sure about that...

[TheGrinch]

SP- Maddox

RP- Lee

C- Rick Wilkins (joke write-in)

1B- Chance

2B- Ryno

SS- Ernie

3B- Ronny

OF- Sammy

OF- Billy

OF- Dawson

 

This wouldn't be an All-star list unless I voted for my personal favorite over some players who were a little better objectively.

[Bull]

Geovaughny Sewtoe

[BWcubs21]

SP- Jenkins

RP- Sutter

C- Hartnett

1B- Grace

2B- Sandberg

SS- Banks

3B- Santo

OF- Sosa

OF- Williams

OF- Dawson

[bhogg]

Sorry, but sometimes I vote with my heart, otherwise Gabby would get my vote.

 

P - Jenkins

C - Jody Davis

1b - Grace

2b - Sandberg

3b - Santo

SS - Dunston. . . no, Banks.

LF - Billy Williams

CF - Sammy Sosa

RF - Dawson

[Post Count Padder]

Geovaughny Sewtoe

I see what you did there

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Kent Mercker deserves consideration under relief pitcher.

[OleMissCub]

Kent Mercker deserves consideration under relief pitcher.

 

Vance, seriously, were you just so anxious to make this tired joke that you skipped over this part:

 

The requirements (off the top of my head) are 500 games played (with the Cubs) for position players, 150 games started for starters, and 150 appearances for relievers (so no Mercker, GEOVANY SOTO, Neifury, or Macias).

 

I guess no matter how hard you try you can't "Merker/Soto-proof" a thread.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Sometimes exceptions should be made for deity.

[Yanksfan1523]

Ron Cey can't get on the ballot? No love for the penguin?

[rocket]

is this for a player's whole career, only their cubs career, or a player's best season while a cub? if it's the latter, you have to throw prior, wood, and rick wilkins in there. hell, you probably should put wood in under starting pitcher anyways.

[OleMissCub]

is this for a player's whole career, only their cubs career, or a player's best season while a cub? if it's the latter, you have to throw prior, wood, and rick wilkins in there. hell, you probably should put wood in under starting pitcher anyways.

 

Sorry, should have made this clear at the beginning. This is referring to their career, in sum, as a Cub.

[McEvans]

HOTTY TODDY!

 

You can go ahead and close those 1st, 2nd and third base polls too.

Do I know who you are?

 

 

don't think so...

 

 

 

Dunston just needed one more year.

[clarkaddison]

1b Gracee

2b Ryno

ss Ernie

3b A-ram

c Gabby

of billy

of Sammy

of Stephenson

sp Brown, Jenkins, Vaughn, Alexander

rp Sutter

mgr Chance

[imb]

Mercker should get consideration as a starter, too. Can a pitcher be eligible for two spots on the roster?

[NCCubFan]

If Jody Davis is included as a catcher choice I think Randy Hundley should too. But either way I think catcher is a no-brainer.

[OleMissCub]

I don't think I really need a poll for SS, 2B, or C. Anyone disagree?

[CuseCubFan69]

If Jody Davis is included as a catcher choice I think Randy Hundley should too. But either way I think catcher is a no-brainer.

 

I agree. Wasn't Randy H better on defense than Davis?

[NCCubFan]

If Jody Davis is included as a catcher choice I think Randy Hundley should too. But either way I think catcher is a no-brainer.

 

I agree. Wasn't Randy H better on defense than Davis?

I believe he was, and Jody was better on offense. Hundley wasn't a great hitter, but back then if a catcher was good defensively any hitting at all was considered a bonus. There were .230-ish hitting catchers that were considered an asset to their teams back then.

[Dallas Green]

I'm just going with my post 1980 team just to mix it up since that's when I started watching baseball. Best year in ( )

 

C Jody Davis (84)

1b Derek Lee (05)

2b Ryne Sandberg (84)

SS Shawson Dunston (89)

3B Aramis Ramirez (04)

LF Alfonso Soriano (07)

CF Bob Dernier (84)

RF Andre Dawson (87)

SP Greg Maddux (92)

CL Lee Smith (84)

MGR Lou Piniella (07)

[seanimal]

I'm just going with my post 1980 team just to mix it up since that's when I started watching baseball. Best year in ( )

 

C Jody Davis (84)

1b Derek Lee (05)

2b Ryne Sandberg (84)

SS Shawson Dunston (89)

3B Aramis Ramirez (04)

LF Alfonso Soriano (07)

CF Bob Dernier (84)

RF Andre Dawson (87)

SP Greg Maddux (92)

CL Lee Smith (84)

MGR Lou Piniella (07)

 

is this based on performance or affection?

 

edit: and i'm not trying to be an ass, I'm just curious, because I see one glaring omission if it's based on performance