Dayn Perry: Jason Kendall is the worst catcher in baseball

[JesseG.]

Nope. He's usually right. Unless he's discussing college football and UF in particular.

 

Ok I will remember that....he is God.. because he posts on a Cub message board alot. Gotcha and also

 

LSU > UF

 

Of course, LSU is better than UF. Check out the sig.

 

And no, he's usually right because he has an outstanding understanding of the metrics that determine the value of a baseball player.

 

Ok.. Metrics don't determine how good a baseball player is lol. Just numbers.

They are a very good indicator of how well a player will perform and how important to his team he is.

 

 

Does it determine the pitchers he is facing? The ball park he is in? There are SO many more factorts then that.

 

The more advanced ones attempt to do that, or at least neutralize the effects in comparing players.

 

 

But all it is is numbers.. Why don't they just figure out a system to figure out what team is the best.. then We won't even have to play the games.

 

Because probabilistic outcomes are just that...probabilistic.

 

 

But there not 100% so you cant just sit there and assume everything.

[snoodmonger]

don't want to make a bad impression

 

LOL

[UK1679666180]

Stats are only part of the equation, it's better to have that part as part of the gathering process than without it.

 

No need to exclude it if it helps you evaluate a player, especially if you're evaluating a ML player.

[Mephistopheles]

I can't see it from Fukudome. I'm expecting .285/.355/.455 or something similar. To get into .300s, you either have to have plus power or Abreu bbs, he won'thave either.

 

hes going to get 15-20 HRs minimum and 40-50 doubles. give him a .300 BA (pretty likely) and 70-80 walks (pretty likely) that makes him comparable to JD Drew in 2006..which was a .300 EqA. and Fred Lynn (career .297 EqA).

[JesseG.]

I can't see it from Fukudome. I'm expecting .285/.355/.455 or something similar. To get into .300s, you either have to have plus power or Abreu bbs, he won'thave either.

 

hes going to get 15-20 HRs minimum and 40-50 doubles. give him a .300 BA (pretty likely) and 70-80 walks (pretty likely) that makes him comparable to JD Drew in 2006..which was a .300 EqA. and Fred Lynn (career .297 EqA).

 

He has not hit once in MLB and you just say all this will happen.. Amazing...

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Nope. He's usually right. Unless he's discussing college football and UF in particular.

 

Ok I will remember that....he is God.. because he posts on a Cub message board alot. Gotcha and also

 

LSU > UF

 

Of course, LSU is better than UF. Check out the sig.

 

And no, he's usually right because he has an outstanding understanding of the metrics that determine the value of a baseball player.

 

Ok.. Metrics don't determine how good a baseball player is lol. Just numbers.

They are a very good indicator of how well a player will perform and how important to his team he is.

 

 

Does it determine the pitchers he is facing? The ball park he is in? There are SO many more factorts then that.

 

Guys, Jessie figured it all out.

The King is dead, long live the king.

 

 

Is that all cubs fan know? Smart ass comments?

What team are you a fan of, smart guy?

 

Pirates :banghead: Just don't tell anyone :beg:

 

Well, since you're a Pirates fan, please don't play the "watch the game" card again. We know you'd have a tough time recognizing good players since you don't see them except on the team your team is playing.

[Geech]

I can't see it from Fukudome. I'm expecting .285/.355/.455 or something similar. To get into .300s, you either have to have plus power or Abreu bbs, he won'thave either.

 

hes going to get 15-20 HRs minimum and 40-50 doubles. give him a .300 BA (pretty likely) and 70-80 walks (pretty likely) that makes him comparable to JD Drew in 2006..which was a .300 EqA. and Fred Lynn (career .297 EqA).

 

If he hits 15 HR, 40 2B and 70 BB he probably doesn't even need to AVG .300 to EqA at about .300.

 

Unless you're talking about all time and I'm thinking about League EqA here.

Edited February 7, 2008 by Geech

[Mephistopheles]

I can't see it from Fukudome. I'm expecting .285/.355/.455 or something similar. To get into .300s, you either have to have plus power or Abreu bbs, he won'thave either.

 

hes going to get 15-20 HRs minimum and 40-50 doubles. give him a .300 BA (pretty likely) and 70-80 walks (pretty likely) that makes him comparable to JD Drew in 2006..which was a .300 EqA. and Fred Lynn (career .297 EqA).

 

He has not hit once in MLB and you just say all this will happen.. Amazing...

 

Im not saying he's going to hit that. I'm saying it's the most likely line of production from him. There's a difference.

[JesseG.]

Nope. He's usually right. Unless he's discussing college football and UF in particular.

 

Ok I will remember that....he is God.. because he posts on a Cub message board alot. Gotcha and also

 

LSU > UF

 

Of course, LSU is better than UF. Check out the sig.

 

And no, he's usually right because he has an outstanding understanding of the metrics that determine the value of a baseball player.

 

Ok.. Metrics don't determine how good a baseball player is lol. Just numbers.

They are a very good indicator of how well a player will perform and how important to his team he is.

 

 

Does it determine the pitchers he is facing? The ball park he is in? There are SO many more factorts then that.

 

Guys, Jessie figured it all out.

The King is dead, long live the king.

 

 

Is that all cubs fan know? Smart ass comments?

What team are you a fan of, smart guy?

 

Pirates :banghead: Just don't tell anyone :beg:

 

Well, since you're a Pirates fan, please don't play the "watch the game" card again. We know you'd have a tough time recognizing good players since you don't see them except on the team your team is playing.

 

Yup your right... I never watch any good players.. Attack my team and who i am nice. I don't have a job to watch every game I possibly can and tell what I think about it, your right... I dont watch ANY OTHER BASEBALL GAMES IN MY LIFE. You guys are saying who the best players in baseball are and telling me I dont watch any baseball, god.. you guys are GOOD. :good:

[JesseG.]

I can't see it from Fukudome. I'm expecting .285/.355/.455 or something similar. To get into .300s, you either have to have plus power or Abreu bbs, he won'thave either.

 

hes going to get 15-20 HRs minimum and 40-50 doubles. give him a .300 BA (pretty likely) and 70-80 walks (pretty likely) that makes him comparable to JD Drew in 2006..which was a .300 EqA. and Fred Lynn (career .297 EqA).

 

He has not hit once in MLB and you just say all this will happen.. Amazing...

 

Im not saying he's going to hit that. I'm saying it's the most likely line of production from him. There's a difference.

 

You said "he is going to" as in.. no doubt in your mind.

[Geech]

Yup your right... I never watch any good players.. Attack my team and who i am nice. I don't have a job to watch every game I possibly can and tell what I think about it, your right... I dont watch ANY OTHER BASEBALL GAMES IN MY LIFE. You guys are saying who the best players in baseball are and telling me I dont watch any baseball, god.. you guys are GOOD. :good:

 

Jesus Christ, man. Chill out.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Nope. He's usually right. Unless he's discussing college football and UF in particular.

 

Ok I will remember that....he is God.. because he posts on a Cub message board alot. Gotcha and also

 

LSU > UF

 

Of course, LSU is better than UF. Check out the sig.

 

And no, he's usually right because he has an outstanding understanding of the metrics that determine the value of a baseball player.

 

Ok.. Metrics don't determine how good a baseball player is lol. Just numbers.

They are a very good indicator of how well a player will perform and how important to his team he is.

 

 

 

 

Does it determine the pitchers he is facing? The ball park he is in? There are SO many more factorts then that.

 

Guys, Jessie figured it all out.

The King is dead, long live the king.

 

 

Is that all cubs fan know? Smart ass comments?

What team are you a fan of, smart guy?

 

Pirates :banghead: Just don't tell anyone :beg:

 

Well, since you're a Pirates fan, please don't play the "watch the game" card again. We know you'd have a tough time recognizing good players since you don't see them except on the team your team is playing.

 

Yup your right... I never watch any good players.. Attack my team and who i am nice. I don't have a job to watch every game I possibly can and tell what I think about it, your right... I dont watch ANY OTHER BASEBALL GAMES IN MY LIFE. You guys are saying who the best players in baseball are and telling me I dont watch any baseball, god.. you guys are GOOD. :good:

I think you played the "I watch the game" card first. But glad you realize how stupid an argument it is, since it's quite likely that most who are diehard fans enough to post on a message board watch a lot of games.

[TheGrinch]

I can't see it from Fukudome. I'm expecting .285/.355/.455 or something similar. To get into .300s, you either have to have plus power or Abreu bbs, he won'thave either.

 

hes going to get 15-20 HRs minimum and 40-50 doubles. give him a .300 BA (pretty likely) and 70-80 walks (pretty likely) that makes him comparable to JD Drew in 2006..which was a .300 EqA. and Fred Lynn (career .297 EqA).

 

He has not hit once in MLB and you just say all this will happen.. Amazing...

 

Im not saying he's going to hit that. I'm saying it's the most likely line of production from him. There's a difference.

 

A lot of the arguments here remind me of the arguments that go on at online poker tables, but with less cursing.

[JesseG.]

Nope. He's usually right. Unless he's discussing college football and UF in particular.

 

Ok I will remember that....he is God.. because he posts on a Cub message board alot. Gotcha and also

 

LSU > UF

 

Of course, LSU is better than UF. Check out the sig.

 

And no, he's usually right because he has an outstanding understanding of the metrics that determine the value of a baseball player.

 

Ok.. Metrics don't determine how good a baseball player is lol. Just numbers.

They are a very good indicator of how well a player will perform and how important to his team he is.

 

 

 

 

Does it determine the pitchers he is facing? The ball park he is in? There are SO many more factorts then that.

 

Guys, Jessie figured it all out.

The King is dead, long live the king.

 

 

Is that all cubs fan know? Smart ass comments?

What team are you a fan of, smart guy?

 

Pirates :banghead: Just don't tell anyone :beg:

 

Well, since you're a Pirates fan, please don't play the "watch the game" card again. We know you'd have a tough time recognizing good players since you don't see them except on the team your team is playing.

 

Yup your right... I never watch any good players.. Attack my team and who i am nice. I don't have a job to watch every game I possibly can and tell what I think about it, your right... I dont watch ANY OTHER BASEBALL GAMES IN MY LIFE. You guys are saying who the best players in baseball are and telling me I dont watch any baseball, god.. you guys are GOOD. :good:

I think you played the "I watch the game" card first. But glad you realize how stupid an argument it is, since it's quite likely that most who are diehard fans enough to post on a message board watch a lot of games.

 

Or they could be total hicks who have nothing better to do with there lifes and think they know everything.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Are you trying to tell us something about yourself?

[imb]

don't tell people what they can or can't do with there lifes

[Post Count Padder]

Wouldn't it be funny if JesseG was just a fake account that Meph created to toy with us?

 

 

But seriously, Jesse, chill out.

[JesseG.]

Are you trying to tell us something about yourself?

 

Wow very good 3rd grade comeback... Did you pick that up from the Kids you teach?

[Mephistopheles]

I can't see it from Fukudome. I'm expecting .285/.355/.455 or something similar. To get into .300s, you either have to have plus power or Abreu bbs, he won'thave either.

 

hes going to get 15-20 HRs minimum and 40-50 doubles. give him a .300 BA (pretty likely) and 70-80 walks (pretty likely) that makes him comparable to JD Drew in 2006..which was a .300 EqA. and Fred Lynn (career .297 EqA).

 

If he hits 15 HR, 40 2B and 70 BB he probably doesn't even need to AVG .300 to EqA at about .300.

 

Probably not.

 

Anyways his last few seasons translated

Year JPB --> MLB

2002 .311 --> .289

2003 .322 --> .299

2004 .305 --> .283

2005 .323 --> .301

2006 .350 --> .326

2007 .317 --> .294

 

For the even more interested, Kazuo Matsui:

1998 .287 --> .267

1999 .295 --> .274

2000 .295 --> .275

2001 .293 --> .273

2002 .316 --> .294

2003 .298 --> .277

 

Hideki Matsui

1998 .316 --> .294

1999 .326 --> .303

2000 .334 --> .311

2001 .332 --> .309

2002 .341 --> .317 Note: 50 HR season

2003 .279

2004 .316

2005 .305

2006 .310

2007 .301

 

Iwamura's EqA in Japan was almost always around .300 and always translated to the .280-.284 range. Guess what his EqA was? .284. Iwamura

 

Kenji's EqA was usually around .290-.295 in Japan with the notable exception of his career mvp season. That translates to the mid .270s....his EqA in the us is .275.

[Mephistopheles]

I can't see it from Fukudome. I'm expecting .285/.355/.455 or something similar. To get into .300s, you either have to have plus power or Abreu bbs, he won'thave either.

 

hes going to get 15-20 HRs minimum and 40-50 doubles. give him a .300 BA (pretty likely) and 70-80 walks (pretty likely) that makes him comparable to JD Drew in 2006..which was a .300 EqA. and Fred Lynn (career .297 EqA).

 

He has not hit once in MLB and you just say all this will happen.. Amazing...

 

Im not saying he's going to hit that. I'm saying it's the most likely line of production from him. There's a difference.

 

A lot of the arguments here remind me of the arguments that go on at online poker tables, but with less cursing.

 

 

do you even want to play me in poker ;)

[TruffleShuffle]

holy too many posts quoted, batman

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Are you trying to tell us something about yourself?

 

Wow very good 3rd grade comeback... Did you pick that up from the Kids you teach?

 

No. They're a little sharper than that. For example they know the correct forms of they're, their, and there.

 

Most of them know the difference between quite and quiet too.

[Mephistopheles]

Are you trying to tell us something about yourself?

 

Wow very good 3rd grade comeback... Did you pick that up from the Kids you teach?

 

No. They're a little sharper than that. For example they know the correct forms of they're, their, and there.

 

Most of them know the difference between quite and quiet too.

 

How about your and you're?

[Post Count Padder]

Are you trying to tell us something about yourself?

 

Wow very good 3rd grade comeback... Did you pick that up from the Kids you teach?

 

No. They're a little sharper than that. For example they know the correct forms of they're, their, and there.

 

Most of them know the difference between quite and quiet too.

 

How about your and you're?

and its and it's?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Are you trying to tell us something about yourself?

 

Wow very good 3rd grade comeback... Did you pick that up from the Kids you teach?

 

No. They're a little sharper than that. For example they know the correct forms of they're, their, and there.

 

Most of them know the difference between quite and quiet too.

 

How about your and you're?

 

I think they have those covered as well.

 

They also know not to use could of or should of for could have or should have.