Hendry: Sam Fuld is an untouchable

[Mephistopheles]

I tend to call people who are dumber than myself idiots. Obviously, I am a relatively bright guy so someone dumber than me is not always an idiot. JH is not an idiot. You don't get his job being an idiot. I don't think he is particularly good at his job. I think he's "relatively idiotic" about it meaning he's in the bottom five or so GMs.

[inari]

As much as we don't like Hendry, I don't think he's a bottom 5 GM.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

While Hendry's philosophy can be debated..I don't think you can question his effort. The guy is constantly looking to improve the team. At least he doesn't sit back and do nothing as a GM(cough..John Paxson..cough).

[Sammy Sofa]

While Hendry's philosophy can be debated..I don't think you can question his effort. The guy is constantly looking to improve the team. At least he doesn't sit back and do nothing as a GM(cough..John Paxson..cough).

 

But if much of those efforts end up being as effective or even worse than doing nothing, is that something someone should get credit for?

 

I've known plenty of people who work very hard, but aren't terribly good at their jobs.

[Wheelimus]

We need to have a designated Bruce thread.

 

It should be called "The Never Ending Interview"

 

 

Yes...and he should be flying a luck dragon!

 

With "Highway 61 Revisted" as the soundtrack. Either the track or the album. :D

[Derwood]

While Hendry's philosophy can be debated..I don't think you can question his effort. The guy is constantly looking to improve the team. At least he doesn't sit back and do nothing as a GM(cough..John Paxson..cough).

 

you need to change your screen name to "DidIMentionIHateJohnPaxson"

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

While Hendry's philosophy can be debated..I don't think you can question his effort. The guy is constantly looking to improve the team. At least he doesn't sit back and do nothing as a GM(cough..John Paxson..cough).

 

But if much of those efforts end up being as effective or even worse than doing nothing, is that something someone should get credit for?

 

It depends I guess.....trades like Juan Pierre for Nolasco/Mitre/Pinto...yeah..in that case doing nothing would have been the better alternative. And while signing Soriano maybe hurt us in the long run, the short term benefit of his presense is better than doing nothing.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

While Hendry's philosophy can be debated..I don't think you can question his effort. The guy is constantly looking to improve the team. At least he doesn't sit back and do nothing as a GM(cough..John Paxson..cough).

 

you need to change your screen name to "DidIMentionIHateJohnPaxson"

:lol: Ironically, I tried registering on RealGm with the S/N of FireJohnPaxson..but I can't get approved.

[SouthSideRyan]

As much as we don't like Hendry, I don't think he's a bottom 5 GM.

 

Top of my head, not sure I can name 5 worse.

 

Ed Wade, Ned Coletti, Wayne Krivsky...there's some incompletes out there. I think Sabean edges him out.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

As much as we don't like Hendry, I don't think he's a bottom 5 GM.

 

Top of my head, not sure I can name 5 worse.

 

Ed Wade, Ned Coletti, Wayne Krivsky...there's some incompletes out there. I think Sabean edges him out.

John Daniels

[Mephistopheles]

nah I'd take Daniels over Hendry.

[Derwood]

jim bowden

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

nah I'd take Daniels over Hendry.

 

Chris Young and Adrian Gonzales for Adam Eaton.

[Lefty]

As much as we don't like Hendry, I don't think he's a bottom 5 GM.

 

Top of my head, not sure I can name 5 worse.

 

Ed Wade, Ned Coletti, Wayne Krivsky...there's some incompletes out there. I think Sabean edges him out.

 

Bavasi.

[Elrhino]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Even the ARam trade drew a lot of growls because we gave up freaking Bobby Hill. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Everyone acts like Hendry gets fleeced on every trade, but when you look at the track record objectively he's ended up on top at a pretty good clip. Edited December 5, 2007 by Elrhino

[JeffH]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Especially since Nolasco, Mitre and Pinto are looking more unimpressive by the day.

 

The Cubs have Josh Donaldson by virtue of that trade as well.

[USSoccer]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Especially since Nolasco, Mitre and Pinto are looking more unimpressive by the day.

 

SALARY DUMP

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Especially since Nolasco, Mitre and Pinto are looking more unimpressive by the day.

 

SALARY DUMP

 

So if a trade is fueled by a Salary Dump, does that somehow disqualify its value? Plenty of other teams had the opportunity to take advantage of this situation as well.

[Elrhino]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Especially since Nolasco, Mitre and Pinto are looking more unimpressive by the day.

 

SALARY DUMP

 

Then it's amazing someone else didn't get them first, or that we didn't have to give up for competition for their services, considering all we had to give up to get them was a couple of ridiculously overrated prospects Hee Seop Choi and Bobby Hill.

 

Or was there some unspoken rule known to the rest of the league that only the Marlins and Pirates would only deal with the Cubs.

Edited December 5, 2007 by Elrhino

[Post Count Padder]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Especially since Nolasco, Mitre and Pinto are looking more unimpressive by the day.

 

SALARY DUMP

 

Then it's amazing someone else didn't get them first, or that we didn't have to give up more in competition for their services, considering all we had to give up to get them was a couple of ridiculously overrated prospects Hee Seop Choi and Bobby Hill. Or was there some unspoken rule known to the rest of the league that only the Cubs could get them.

And Jose Hernandez

[CubinNY]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Even the ARam trade drew a lot of growls because we gave up freaking Bobby Hill. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Everyone acts like Hendry gets fleeced on every trade, but when you look at the track record objectively he's ended up on top at a pretty good clip.

Anyone could have made those trades. Baltimore failed to come to terms on a long term contract for Lee after he was traded by the Marlins. I supposed Hendry gets credit for the first person to say, "I'll take him". Aramis was traded after questions about his "make up" and ability to play defense. Two things that still haunt him today.

 

Hendry should get credit for the Nomar deal, but again Boston couldn't get rid of him fast enough.

 

But all that is beside the point, Hendry has demonstrated repeatedly that he's real good at putting together mediocre to terrible teams, year in and year out. Frankly, I want more.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Even the ARam trade drew a lot of growls because we gave up freaking Bobby Hill. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Everyone acts like Hendry gets fleeced on every trade, but when you look at the track record objectively he's ended up on top at a pretty good clip.

Anyone could have made those trades. Baltimore failed to come to terms on a long term contract for Lee after he was traded by the Marlins. I supposed Hendry gets credit for the first person to say, "I'll take him". Aramis was traded after questions about his "make up" and ability to play defense. Two things that still haunt him today.

 

Hendry should get credit for the Nomar deal, but again Boston couldn't get rid of him fast enough.

 

But all that is beside the point, Hendry has demonstrated repeatedly that he's real good at putting together mediocre to terrible teams, year in and year out. Frankly, I want more.

Huh? Aramis Ramirez was one of the best defensive 3B in MLB last season.

[USSoccer]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Especially since Nolasco, Mitre and Pinto are looking more unimpressive by the day.

 

SALARY DUMP

 

So if a trade is fueled by a Salary Dump, does that somehow disqualify its value? Plenty of other teams had the opportunity to take advantage of this situation as well.

 

Not really. Not every team can absorb salary.

[Elrhino]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Even the ARam trade drew a lot of growls because we gave up freaking Bobby Hill. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Everyone acts like Hendry gets fleeced on every trade, but when you look at the track record objectively he's ended up on top at a pretty good clip.

Anyone could have made those trades. Baltimore failed to come to terms on a long term contract for Lee after he was traded by the Marlins. I supposed Hendry gets credit for the first person to say, "I'll take him". Aramis was traded after questions about his "make up" and ability to play defense. Two things that still haunt him today.

 

Hendry should get credit for the Nomar deal, but again Boston couldn't get rid of him fast enough.

 

But all that is beside the point, Hendry has demonstrated repeatedly that he's real good at putting together mediocre to terrible teams, year in and year out. Frankly, I want more.

 

Funny how those deals became hindsight "no brainers" that anyone could have made, but the board nearly melted down when they were made going on and on about how badly we were fleeced. Because we gave up Bobby Hill and Hee Seop Choi who were "just as good, but cheaper".

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

I don't agree with his philosophies, but I do take issue with the fact that the Pierre trade has become the signature Hendry trade that we talk about years after the fact and everyone just brushes aside the ARam and DLee trades as though anyone could have made them. Especially the DLee trade, which was universally panned on this board. Compared to awesomeness of those two trades, the suckiness (and no one is debating it sucked) of the Pierre trade pales by comparison. Especially since Nolasco, Mitre and Pinto are looking more unimpressive by the day.

 

SALARY DUMP

 

So if a trade is fueled by a Salary Dump, does that somehow disqualify its value? Plenty of other teams had the opportunity to take advantage of this situation as well.

 

Not really. Not every team can absorb salary.

 

There were plenty of teams that could have absorbed that salary at the time and looking back wish they made a play on both those players.